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    Wow.

    For those of you who seem to draw some lazy equivalence between the parties, this is a rather stark exchange that shows how the nutty fringe has taken over mainstream GOP politics, and they do not care what is true.

    Remember, this guy is nominated by Trump to be a freaking federal judge.




    Kentucky lawyer John Bush, nominated by Donald Trump for a federal appeals court, once wrote, “The Democrats are trying to win with the same game plan as in 2008, only subs ute woman for Black.”

    And that may be the least controversial thing he said.

    When nominated, Bush was forced to come clean about his blogging alias, “G. Morris,” which he used on his wife’s blog, “Elephants in the Bluegrass.” When blogging, Bush often relied on less-than-credible sources.

    At his Senate confirmation hearing, Minnesota’s Al Franken dug into Bush’s blogging, sharply questioning the lawyer’s judgement when it came to citing sources that peddled in conspiracy theories.

    “One of the qualities I look for in a judge is judgment,” Franken said. He then started his questions to the rightwing blogger seeking a seat on the circuit court by asking about judgment and how Bush decided to site World News Daily, a site Franken described as “a website known for peddling conspiracy theories, fake news, and white nationalism,” in his posts.

    It went downhill for Bush from there, who squirmed and struggled to defend his judgment in relying on a fake news cite for his far-right writings.


    FRANKEN: You used the G. Morris alias when you wrote a series of posts about President Obama that seemed to focus on the president’s Kenyan heritage. One of those posts quotes freely from an article on World News Daily, a website known for peddling conspiracy theories, fake news, and white nationalism. World News Daily was also well known for trafficking in birtherism — the widely debunked and racist belief that President Obama was not born in the United States. The article you quote from suggests that a reporter in Kenya was detained by the government because he was investigating, quote, “Barack Obama’s connections in the country.” What point were you trying to make in this post? It was a post led “Brother’s Keepers,” as in — this is the name of it — “Keep that anti-Obama reporter in jail.”

    BUSH: Well, first of all, before getting into the particular post, I have to tell the committee, there are some things I’ve written on the posts, or the blog, that I wish I could phrase differently or said differently at this point. That particular post, I don’t recall all the details of it, but I was certainly not intending to endorse any views of another group as far as birtherism goes.

    FRANKEN: Well, in several other posts, you wrote — you quote from, you cite sources like World News Daily. How did you decide which sources to rely upon in your writings and how did you decide which sources were credible?

    BUSH: As a blogger, I was finding things that were in the news that were of note. I thought — I wasn’t intending to, through the post, to say that President Obama was not born in this country. I never—

    FRANKEN: How did you decide — could you answer my questions? How did you decide which sources were credible? And do you believe that World News Daily is a credible source?

    BUSH: As I said, when I was doing the blog, I made some posts that I today would not do. And I don’t particularly recall that one. What went into the decision to use that particular story, but I am not endorsing any of the birther view points of that particular person.

    FRANKEN: OK, let me ask you again. How did you decide which sources were credible, and how did you decide that World News Daily is a credible source?

    BUSH: I don’t know whether I decided that or not. I just really cannot remember.

    FRANKEN: So you were free — you felt free to put posts out that cited sources that you knew were not credible?

    BUSH: No, senator, I’m not saying that.

    FRANKEN: What are you saying?

    BUSH: I’m saying that as a blogger, I was making political statements—

    FRANKEN: Using sources that engaged in fake news, hate speech. And again, what I was saying was, is that I think we have to, when we’re confirming judges, look at judgment. And in my mind, using my judgment to confirm someone to the circuit court who felt free to blog posts, and can’t answer how he decides whether to cite a source or not, whether it’s credible or not, that’s disturbing to me. Thank you.

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    its not what you believe, its what you agree to believe.

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    "Kentucky lawyer John Bush"

    typical of the kind of garbage the Repugs pack the courts with. Trash is facing 10s if not 100s of Federal judgeships nominated by Obama that Repug Senate would not hear or threatened to filibuster.

    Famous example of Repug garbage judge is dubya's Priscilla Owen, then there are the VRWC stooges on SCOTUS


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    Is John Bush an ST poster? Sounds like what most of the regulars here do.

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    Dem's have no one to blame but themselves for the situation we are in. You can mock the stupidity of the GOP all they like but until they come to grips with their own leadership then it's going to keep repeating itself.

    After the most embarrassing loss in modern election history what did the Dems do to change? Leadership outside of Wasserman is the same.

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    Dem's have no one to blame but themselves for the situation we are in. You can mock the stupidity of the GOP all they like but until they come to grips with their own leadership then it's going to keep repeating itself.

    After the most embarrassing loss in modern election history what did the Dems do to change? Leadership outside of Wasserman is the same.
    You missed the most recent election at the top.

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    Al Franken? Seriously?

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    Dem's have no one to blame but themselves for the situation we are in. You can mock the stupidity of the GOP all they like but until they come to grips with their own leadership then it's going to keep repeating itself.

    After the most embarrassing loss in modern election history what did the Dems do to change? Leadership outside of Wasserman is the same.
    Hillary would have won by as much as Trash did except Pootin/Assange and Comey.

    "stupidity"? racist, misogynist assholes who were OBVIOUSLY conned, duped by Trash and are now to be badly screwed.

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    Kentucky lawyer John Bush, nominated by Donald Trump for a federal appeals court, once wrote, “The Democrats are trying to win with the same game plan as in 2008, only subs ute woman for Black.”
    He ain't that wrong about that.

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    Al Franken? Seriously?
    bro if youre going to fanboy on donald trump you dont get to at any other elected official

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    Al Franken? Seriously?


    Made an ass out of himself going after the honorable Judge Gorsuch. He should go back to being a whiney c*nt on SNL

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    Hillary would have won by as much as Trash did except Pootin/Assange and Comey.

    "stupidity"? racist, misogynist assholes who were OBVIOUSLY conned, duped by Trash and are now to be badly screwed.
    She allowed it to get close from what should have been an insurmountable lead a month before the election. She all but punted midwest battleground states and ignored rural America completely.

    She had some things go against her but she ended up whining more after it was all said and done as opposed to anything in crunch time. She was dealing with the biggest fool to run for the office in history and she the bed.

    You cannot count on the critical thinking skills in this country to get you through. You have to lead us but instead she allowed Trump to dictate the narrative time and again. She did little more than parrot selective stupid he said. Even her main talking point about building bridges instead of walls was piggy backing off of him.

    She did nothing to distinguish herself. That's on her and the party who insisted on her.

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    Made an ass out of himself going after the honorable Judge Gorsuch. He should go back to being a whiney c*nt on SNL
    You are quite the sycophantic fanboi.

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    She allowed it to get close from what should have been an insurmountable lead a month before the election. She all but punted midwest battleground states and ignored rural America completely.

    She had some things go against her but she ended up whining more after it was all said and done as opposed to anything in crunch time. She was dealing with the biggest fool to run for the office in history and she the bed.

    You cannot count on the critical thinking skills in this country to get you through. You have to lead us but instead she allowed Trump to dictate the narrative time and again. She did little more than parrot selective stupid he said. Even her main talking point about building bridges instead of walls was piggy backing off of him.

    She did nothing to distinguish herself. That's on her and the party who insisted on her.
    Honestly, she was a very boring speaker so I doubt her going to the Midwestern states would have made a difference

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    Honestly, she was a very boring speaker so I doubt her going to the Midwestern states would have made a difference
    If that makes ya feel better. Because he mopped the in' floor with her in' ass.

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    Dem's have no one to blame but themselves for the situation we are in.
    Bull

    Hillary lost by under 100K votes because of Pootin/Assange and Comey

    The wider, longer picture is the 10Ms of Americans are truly ed, dispairing, drugging, drinking, suicedes, ending with nothing for working their entire, no financial security, no future for them or their kids. The "system", America The Beautiful, had failed them.

    How did they get there? 40 years of VRWC rigging the economy, resulting in World Champion inequality.

    They were happy to be suckered, duped, lied to by Trash, combined with what election analysis said huge motivations racism and sexual discrimination.

    And of course, all women, her gender was a huge negative for Hillary. Her haters had more than enough of at the knitter, they didn't want no old, fat .

    I'm not defending the Dems. They are as big of s to BigDonor as the Repugs, just more discreet about it.

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    Bull

    Hillary lost by under 100K votes because Pootin/Assange and Comey

    The wider, longer picture is the 10Ms of Americans are truly ed, dispairing, drugging, drinking, suicedes, ending with nothing for working their entire, no financial security, no future for them or their kids. The "system", America The Beautiful, had failed them.

    How did they get there? 40 years of VRWC rigging the economy, resulting in World Champion inequality.

    They were happy to be suckered, duped, lied to by Trash, combined with what election analysis said huge motivations racism and sexual discrimination.

    And of course, all women, her gender was a huge negative for Hillary. Her haters had more than enough of at the knitter, they didn't want no old, fat .

    I'm not defending the Dems. They are as big of s to BigDonor as the Repugs, just more discreet about it.
    You're making excuses for them as you always do.

    All politicians lie. It's what they do that is important.

    Clinton was up double digits and ran such a horrid campaign that it put Trump in striking distance. I am not saying Russian and Comey did not hurt her but it should have never been close enough to matter.

    She counted on the woman's vote and they did not come out for her. She counted on the minority vote and they did not come out for her. She counted on the educated vote and they did not come out for her.

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    Honestly, she was a very boring speaker so I doubt her going to the Midwestern states would have made a difference
    Very few people pay attention to speeches. It's more about the press coverage and motivating surrogates. She left them hung out to dry.

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    If that makes ya feel better. Because he mopped the in' floor with her in' ass.
    Why would her being a boring speaker make me feel better?

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    Why would her being a boring speaker make me feel better?
    Because you can blame that on her loss and you'll feel better deflecting the truth.

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    Bull

    Hillary lost by under 100K votes because of Pootin/Assange and Comey

    The wider, longer picture is the 10Ms of Americans are truly ed, dispairing, drugging, drinking, suicedes, ending with nothing for working their entire, no financial security, no future for them or their kids. The "system", America The Beautiful, had failed them.

    How did they get there? 40 years of VRWC rigging the economy, resulting in World Champion inequality.

    They were happy to be suckered, duped, lied to by Trash, combined with what election analysis said huge motivations racism and sexual discrimination.

    And of course, all women, her gender was a huge negative for Hillary. Her haters had more than enough of at the knitter, they didn't want no old, fat .

    I'm not defending the Dems. They are as big of s to BigDonor as the Repugs, just more discreet about it.
    Until we get rid of the Fed nothing will change boots. You can point the finger at both parties until you're blue in the face, but the real problem lies with our currency.

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    Until we get rid of the Fed nothing will change boots. You can point the finger at both parties until you're blue in the face, but the real problem lies with our currency.
    Shut the up. You're both a moron and an asshole.

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    Shut the up. You're both a moron and an asshole.
    I don't do the troll thing. Bless your little heart.

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    You're making excuses for them as you always do.

    All politicians lie. It's what they do that is important.

    Clinton was up double digits and ran such a horrid campaign that it put Trump in striking distance. I am not saying Russian and Comey did not hurt her but it should have never been close enough to matter.

    She counted on the woman's vote and they did not come out for her. She counted on the minority vote and they did not come out for her. She counted on the educated vote and they did not come out for her.
    Well, even as a minority woman with a college degree - why would I want someone who wants more people flooding our southern borders and more refugees from terrorist countries coming here? Don't we Americans have enough problems here without inviting in people who might mow us down/knife us?

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    Well, even as a minority woman with a college degree - why would I want someone who wants more people flooding our southern borders and more refugees from terrorist countries coming here? Don't we Americans have enough problems here without inviting in people who might mow us down/knife us?
    Let me know if somebody cares?

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