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    http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blo...ian-antifa?amp

    Over the past few months, we have finally entered the fully realized historical revisionism promised in George Orwell's "1984," in which the motto, "Who controls the present controls the past. Who controls the past controls the future," was central to shaping the book's dystopian world. In the book, history was continually being rewritten and re-promulgated to meet the political necessities of the moment. There was no history to be remembered, let alone lessons to be learned.

    For all the talk of Trumpian bluster or exaggeration, there is only one group that seeks to systematically and violently achieve its goals here in the United States on a broad scale: the so-called "anti-facist" movement, now commonly called "Antifa." And the goal? It's not "anti-facist" or "anti-racist" as they attempt to portray themselves. It's the systematic elimination of free speech, free assembly, and free thought via any means necessary, including violent protest, the media and Orwellian revisionism.

    It is the imposition of a perverse type of intolerance based on Marxist and Chinese communist values that, it turns out, is far more welcome and pervasive within the Democrat Party of Sens. Bernie Sanders (D-Vt.) and Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) than neo-Nazis, the KKK and white supremacists are in the Republican Party. The gunman, James Hodgkinson, who shot Rep. Steve Scalise and four others in Alexandria was a habitual Antifa website visitor and advocate and Sanders volunteer. Even Democrat vice presidential candidate, Sen. Tim Kaine's (D-Va.) son has been identified as an Antifa activist.

    Yet, the media would have us believe that it is the white supremacist movement that is the real threat to our republic. Consider that most media estimates put the Antifa movement, largely built out of the "Occupy" movement of 2008-2010, at more than 200,000 members. The Southern Poverty Law Center, on the other hand, puts the number of Klu Klux Klan members at about 6,000 KKK ...in a country of almost 330 million. But actions speak volumes compared to mere numbers.


    The vandalized statue of Christopher Columbus? Antifa. The statue torn down in Charlotte, N.C.? Antifa. The violence in Charlottesville? Antifa. The violence in Seattle? Antifa. Not excusing the vile nature of the white supremacist protest, but it was a licensed march that remained comparatively nonviolent, albeit troubling, until, as one eyewitness described it, "It started raining balloons filled with urine, feces, paint, burning chemicals & boards with nails driven into them."

    This violence against reprehensible, yet innocent citizens, and more importantly, law enforcement, which the Antifa routinely violently opposes, is not the result of a few bad apples. It's the fundamental philosophy of the loose confederation of Antifa cells, much of it laid out for all to read on "how to" websites.


    Ominously, the group that over the past few years has preferred baseball bats, axe handles, even small flag poles - all with nails installed to make them latter day DIY maces - is upgrading their arsenal. Consider what Daryl Jenkins, a national Antifa leader said recently, "If we care about [our country], we're the ones who need to go out there and do what needs to be done. More and more to the hard left, you start seeing people willing to bear arms. I don't run with people who don't care for guns all that much."

    Increasingly, the violence we are seeing on the streets is not the result of the alt-right movement, but of the Antifa movement imposing their views on our society: tearing down statues, burning the American flag, shutting down town hall meetings, destroying private property and looting. All of it tactical toward achieving the goals of destroying the American culture, society and economy. Never mind that the tactics are themselves the tactics of the fascist.


    Yet, the likes of CNN and the New York Times and Washington Post spend much of their time touting the alt-right threat. Why? A couple of reasons. First, most mainstream media types are philosophically inclined toward anti-establishment organizations from the start; they see little wrong with crypto-fascist violence if the stated goals are in line with their own values systems.

    Second, that the Antifa movement hides behind its opposition to the Trump administration gives them the veneer of respectable protest the mainstream media needs to protect them. Finally, it's a lot harder to look in a mirror and admit that your own values are being corrupted, when you can easily point your finger at others and judge, especially if the mob encourages and rewards you for doing so.

    But as the Antifa movement showed during the Obama administration, with riots and violence during global economic meetings in Washington, D.C. and elsewhere, their ilk have little loyalty to even their most ardent supporters and enablers. The media like CNN and others on the Left coddling them should be careful; you can only embrace vipers for so long before they turn on you.

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    How many antifa are there? who is the leader(s)? are they supported by the Dem or any party or poitician?

    Holy , you whiny, less, self-victimizing Nazis/racists/KKK/white supremacists really, really don't like any pushback, do you?


    Orwellian?

    who is this Nazi nut job? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ned_Ryun

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    They're going to have to be addressed on a larger scale, and they will be at some point.

    Hopefully no one gets killed first.

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    They're going to have to be addressed on a larger scale, and they will be at some point.

    Hopefully no one gets killed first.
    really? "addressed" how?

    think they are gonna do their own versions of OKC bombing, and bombing, shooting up black churches, Tulsa massacre, murdering LGBT?

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    really? "addressed" how?

    think they are gonna do their own versions of OKC bombing, and bombing, shooting up black churches, Tulsa massacre, murdering LGBT?
    It doesn't matter that they're not doing those things you named, they're purposefully creating chaos and a culture of violence and intimidation, and it's not helping anyone.

    The Democratic Party needs to denounce them and distance themselves from them, or Antifa will cost them elections. It's perilous for liberals to align with anarchist vandals who threaten police officers and intimidate people while hiding behind masks. These idiots seriously think of themselves as heroes, like their bricks and clubs are going to be what stops fascism in this country instead of millions and millions of voters, most of whom don't see criminal behavior as heroic.

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    It doesn't matter that they're not doing those things you named, they're purposefully creating chaos and a culture of violence and intimidation, and it's not helping anyone.

    The Democratic Party needs to denounce them and distance themselves from them, or Antifa will cost them elections. It's perilous for liberals to align with anarchist vandals who threaten police officers and intimidate people while hiding behind masks. These idiots seriously think of themselves as heroes, like their bricks and clubs are going to be what stops fascism in this country instead of millions and millions of voters, most of whom don't see criminal behavior as heroic.
    antifa is only pushing back specifically against you KKK/Nazi/racists, who themselves are attacking 10Ms of blacks, browns, yellows, LGBT

    false equivalence, no "both sides".

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    antifa is only pushing back specifically against you KKK/Nazi/racists, who themselves are attacking 10Ms of blacks, browns, yellows, LGBT

    false equivalence, no "both sides".
    So Antifa are good people?

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    antifa is only pushing back specifically against you KKK/Nazi/racists, who themselves are attacking 10Ms of blacks, browns, yellows, LGBT

    false equivalence, no "both sides".


    I didn't make an equivalence, you stupid piece of . What is wrong with you? They don't have to be as bad as Nazis to still be misguided. Being anti-racist is the easiest thing in the world to be, and it doesn't require hiding behind masks and throwing bricks through Starbucks windows.

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    antifa is only intimidating Nazis/KKK/racists.

    NOT a "threat to the Republic", while you rightwingnuts and your Repugs/right wing hate media/oligarchy/Christian Taliban have been strategically dividing, polarizing the Republic for decades.

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    That is super scary hyperbole we have come to expect from TSA. Antifa is only a real threat to the Democratic Party if they aren't denounced as Spurminator said. Otherwise, they just don't have any numbers or organization or balls to actually do anything OP thinks they will. The idea of an organized 200k strong group of violent Antifa ready to act at a moments notice is bull . Wake me when we get a message from the elected President/Dictator/Leader of Antifa with their completely composed and ratified manifesto.

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    That is super scary hyperbole we have come to expect from TSA. Antifa is only a real threat to the Democratic Party if they aren't denounced as Spurminator said. Otherwise, they just don't have any numbers or organization or balls to actually do anything OP thinks they will. The idea of an organized 200k strong group of violent Antifa ready to act at a moments notice is bull . Wake me when we get a message from the elected President/Dictator/Leader of Antifa with their completely composed and ratified manifesto.
    Also this.

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    "Antifa is only a real threat to the Democratic Party"

    WTF?

    Dems haven't supported antifa, antifa isn't the base of or associated with the Dems,

    unlike the Nazis/racists/KKK who are in the solid core of the Repugs base, as emboldened, encouraged by Trash, they have been dog-whistled, cultivated by the Repugs since Goldwater.

    "both sides"

    The biggest threat to the Republic is the stupidity, ignorance of 10Ms, 100M?, Americans. 80% of Repugs STILL support Trash, and polls show Ms think there's no problem with Nazis/KKK



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    [COLOR=#000000]"Antifa is only a real threat to the Democratic Party"

    WTF?

    Dems haven't supported antifa, antifa isn't the base of or associated with the Dems
    It's all about optics.

    Idiots like average Trump supporters and disingenuous fear mongers like TSA will be increasingly desperate to link the two as Trump keeps burying them in his . The Democrats need to get ahead of it and categorically denounce violence in any demonstration or gathering and tell Antifa members to do the same or go themselves. Heyer's martyrdom has temporarily given the left the moral high ground. They can't lose it to a bunch of dorks armed with piss bottles.

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    antifa is only intimidating Nazis/KKK/racists.
    Which one of those things is this guy?



    Doesn't matter that the Dems haven't supported Antifa. They should still distance, because these idiots are going to be all over Republican campaign commercials.

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    Which one of those things is this guy?



    Doesn't matter that the Dems haven't supported Antifa. They should still distance, because these idiots are going to be all over Republican campaign commercials.
    Saved by apparent black member of the media.

    Even something like that is absolutely terrifying to old MAGAts and an endless red meat supply for Tucker and posters.
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    Alt-Right Twitter keeps trying to link them somehow to Hillary Clinton, which is pretty laughable since they probably hated Clinton just as much as they hate Trump.

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    I'm sure someone on ar15.com is calling them a Soros funded Obama shadow army.

    Also, TSA's OP . This Ryun guy was in such a rush to pin the statue destruction on Antifa he couldn't even get the city right. The only affiliation listed for those arrested in Durham has been with the Wobblies, and that organization needs to disavow the acts of three of their members as well. EDIT: well, at least the local chapter looks like it wants in on the bull . Stupid.

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    posters and mememakers are going to pimp the Antifa brand more than Antifa.

    Chris will prove.

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    Exactly. It's like on that "Cops" show. The one jailer said they're all bad asses till he locks the cell door behind 'em then they're all cryin' for their mothers. & real tears too.

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    The Democratic Party needs to denounce them and distance themselves from them, or Antifa will cost them elections. It's perilous for liberals to align with anarchist vandals who threaten police officers and intimidate people while hiding behind masks. These idiots seriously think of themselves as heroes, like their bricks and clubs are going to be what stops fascism in this country instead of millions and millions of voters, most of whom don't see criminal behavior as heroic.
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