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    Before Anthony trade, had Rockets as better regular season team and leaned Thunder as better playoff team. Think regular season is now a virtual coin flip, but am now more certain about playoffs and since they're obviously more important, I'm going Thunder.

    One thing's clear, Spurs aren't even in the mix. What's worse, if it was ever so much as ajar, the door officially slammed shut on Westbrook to Spurs possibility. Can't imagine Anthony, with 2 years left, isn't agreeing to go to Oklahoma City without having gotten assurance from him that he's staying. Without any other path to legit second star on horizon, time to officially entertain notion of Leonard not re-signing past current contract.

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    I'd give the edge to the Thunder.

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    Regardless, it isn't the Spurs.

    In before, "The Klaw will take us past GS, Houston, and OKCancer all by himself! Just watch!!!"

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    PATFO fluffers here are actually downplaying this move. Not surprised but, if OKC was a bad match-up last year with one man and no bench - what chance do the Spurs have now with one legitimate scoring option and true lockdown defender ( Danny Green and two years too late All-Defensive team award)?

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    Teams don't win on paper. Let's see things look halfway in to the season.

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    Teams don't win on paper. Let's see things look halfway in to the season.
    We definitely learned that in 2016 when OKC murked us.

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    feel bad for kawhi.

    he aint getting help but he will win 50 plus games and proccedd not to win mvp because apparently he plays for such a great team.

    Move to LA if you are reading this my man. You dont deserve this.

    Popvich and RC buford treat their players like plantation workers tbh

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    feel bad for kawhi.

    he aint getting help but he will win 50 plus games and proccedd not to win mvp because apparently he plays for such a great team.

    Move to LA if you are reading this my man. You dont deserve this.

    Popvich and RC buford treat their players like plantation workers tbh
    No part of me wants Kawhi to leave, but I wouldn't blame him at all.

    R.C. and Co. would deserve it if they continue to fail to put a contending team around him within the next few years.

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    Before Anthony trade, had Rockets as better regular season team and leaned Thunder as better playoff team. Think regular season is now a virtual coin flip, but am now more certain about playoffs and since they're obviously more important, I'm going Thunder.

    One thing's clear, Spurs aren't even in the mix. What's worse, if it was ever so much as ajar, the door officially slammed shut on Westbrook to Spurs possibility. Can't imagine Anthony, with 2 years left, isn't agreeing to go to Oklahoma City without having gotten assurance from him that he's staying. Without any other path to legit second star on horizon, time to officially entertain notion of Leonard not re-signing past current contract.
    Been saying Kawhi to LA for a year now. Pops and RC ego is finally catching up to them, tbh. Nevermind that hes a 25 year old that plays 33 minutes and gets yanked because hey we gotta show the world its a team effort pop.

    He aint getting team success here or indovidual sucess in the future. He needs to leave.

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    Spurs are still the 2nd best team in the West. Paul George didn't take Westbrook out of his "me" crusade and Choker didn't take Choker 2.0 out of his choking crusade. Spurs still have a coach and a system, and they still have the guys who got them there last year.

    Both the Thunder and the Rockets suffer from what many NBA teams suffer from: Players on the floor trying to coach the team while the coach acts as a cheerleader.

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    No part of me wants Kawhi to leave, but I wouldn't blame him at all.

    R.C. and Co. would deserve it if they continue to fail to put a contending team around him within the next few years.
    I actually think a lot of the PATFO suckers are happy about the last two offseasons because they'd rather Kiwi win MVP than see his numbers go down in the presence of another star.

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    Spurs are still the 2nd best team in the West. Paul George didn't take Westbrook out of his "me" crusade and Choker didn't take Choker 2.0 out of his choking crusade. Spurs still have a coach and a system, and they still have the guys who got them there last year.

    Both the Thunder and the Rockets suffer from what many NBA teams suffer from: Players on the floor trying to coach the team while the coach acts as a cheerleader.
    Talent still wins games when it matters the most. The Spurs are a one-man team with declining pieces and no real legitimate scoring option after Kawhi. If OKC was a bad match-up last season, this year will be much worse.

    2nd in the West doesn't mean much when your pieces after Kawhi are out of gas by the second round and the games are close.

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    Spurs are still the 2nd best team in the West. Paul George didn't take Westbrook out of his "me" crusade and Choker didn't take Choker 2.0 out of his choking crusade. Spurs still have a coach and a system, and they still have the guys who got them there last year.

    Both the Thunder and the Rockets suffer from what many NBA teams suffer from: Players on the floor trying to coach the team while the coach acts as a cheerleader.
    Agreed. One could argue if a philosophy change is indeed coming in terms of playing smaller, they'll be even better, based off the result we saw last season when they went small.

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    Spurs are still the 2nd best team in the West. Paul George didn't take Westbrook out of his "me" crusade and Choker didn't take Choker 2.0 out of his choking crusade. Spurs still have a coach and a system, and they still have the guys who got them there last year.

    Both the Thunder and the Rockets suffer from what many NBA teams suffer from: Players on the floor trying to coach the team while the coach acts as a cheerleader.
    This is right. Rockets improved. I'm not sure what a washed-up Melo does for OKC, but giving them the benefit of the doubt we'll say they improved slightly. Spurs still would be favored over OKC. Some pundits like the Rockets, but D'Antoni teams are only built for the regular season. I'd favor Spurs over them both.

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    What the Melo trade did was take out HOU as the second-best team and make them and OKC on the same tier. Whether the Spurs are above or below that tier depends on how well they can utilize their talent. They have the horses, but all of them have question marks.

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    And at think Millsap was some loss. LMA's been better than that dude his whole career, even last year.

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    Forgot These three though:



    any of these two would also be 2nd best spur player:


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    What the Melo trade did was take out HOU as the second-best team and make them and OKC on the same tier. Whether the Spurs are above or below that tier depends on how well they can utilize their talent. They have the horses, but all of them have question marks.
    You mean a declining no talent Danny Green, a guy named Fatty who chokes in big playoff series, LMA who can't post up guards, a tired old Spaniard who is tired by the 3rd, a 41 year old sixth man, a guy coming off a ruptured tendon, a guy coming off a ruptured achilles, Fathead Uno and Fathead Dos, a raw sop re, and Joffrey Lannister?

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    . How did I forget the two teams that always cuck Pop-led teams

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    Forgot These three though:



    any of these two would also be 2nd best spur player:

    Can't wait until we're still losing to these bum teams because all we have to match-up with them are LMA and Pau Gasft.

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    You mean a declining no talent Danny Green, a guy named Fatty who chokes in big playoff series, LMA who can't post up guards, a tired old Spaniard who is tired by the 3rd, a 41 year old sixth man, a guy coming off a ruptured tendon, a guy coming off a ruptured achilles, Fathead Uno and Fathead Dos, a raw sop re, and Joffrey Lannister?
    There's no comeback to this. Not one single lie here

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    . How did I forget the two teams that always cuck Pop-led teams
    Never forget...

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    To be clear, Spurs' continuity and residue of winning could win the day in the regular season, but there's no credible argument (save for the obligatory injury caveat) for them not being 4th going into playoffs.

    Spurs would probably be better off finishing 4th and ensuring matchup with Warriors in WCSF. By then, it'll have been 4 years in the making. Would like one healthy series against them just to end the speculation and see, once and for all, the exact extent of the gap.

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