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Stern would have done better to not say anything at all about the dress code until he could release all the details. It would have spared everyone the confusion.
Stern: Players will be 'pleasantly surprised'
ESPN.com news services
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2193984
For all the NBA players that thought they'd have to wear a suit everywhere they went this season, David Stern told The Denver Post that they will be "pleasantly surprised" about the upcoming dress code announcement.
"It's a lot less than all of you are talking about, a lot less," Stern told the paper in a phone interview. "Right now we have a number of teams that are jacket and tie. We are not going there. Never were. We're going to give teams the option to continue that.
"But we're just trying to raise the lowest level up to a place where we can all still feel comfortable. I don't think it will be a problem. The gloom and doom [speculations] have so softened up everybody that by the time we issue the dress code, which will be some time next week, everybody will be pleasantly surprised."
At the time the dress code was announced to be in the works, several players vehemently opposed the change.
"I dress to make myself comfortable," Iverson told the Philadelphia Daily News. "I really do have a problem with it. ... It's just not right. It's something I'll fight for."
Denver Nuggets center Marcus Camby added that the players should receive a stipend to pay for the clothes.
Stern would have done better to not say anything at all about the dress code until he could release all the details. It would have spared everyone the confusion.
He is an attention-getter for the league; this got the issue out to people through channels that never would have been used before, to people who now think, "oh, look, the NBA is cleaning up. Now they'll be just like that nice Admiral fellow."
Even if that is not the case, he made people look at/think about the league at a point when they get no coverage. A calculated PR move.
You are right.
Let me rephrase, Stern would have been a better person...
I don't think Stern is the one who brought it up in the first place. The media found out about it and started making assumptions .. then they asked people around the league about it and wrote articles. Stern didn't announce "we have a dress code with no details".
I actually think that the details of the draconian dress code were released to make it much easier for a compromise to be worked out. Almost every player interviewed said they were fine with a code on game days but balked at the travel codes, etc. The pleasant suprise could be what they already said they would accept.
Welcome to the Latrell Sprewell School of Asshole Quotations.
not really.... camby's comment is nowhere near as ridiculous and spree's.
basically camby is saying you want us in uniforms on AND off the court??? fine, pay for our suits, just like you pay for our jereseys
Fair enough. But Stern didn't seem anxious to quench the rumors either.
And could the media really find out about it without Stern's knowledge and consent?
Maybe I am too cynical.
Seeing as every player/team in the NBA already knew about it (it was negotiated this summer but without the details) then it wasn't a secret. There was nothing to consent about.And could the media really find out about it without Stern's knowledge and consent?
I'm just saying that people in this thread are acting like Stern made an announcement prematurely without details. He didn't. Everyone around the NBA knew a dress code of some sort was coming this year. The media ran with it and people got riled up. Stern doesn't mind people getting riled up because now when the details come out it won't be such a big deal.
Um, I don't think that's it. You're like Ms. Anti-Cynical!
Carie
That makes sense Kori. Thanks for clarifying it for me. = )
I don't like Stern but I trust you.
You should like Stern. He made the NBA awesome.
I will try. = )
Camby salary:
1997 $2,434,000
1998 $2,799,240
1999 $3,164,000
2000 $5,250,000
2001 $5,750,000
2002 $7,300,000
2003 $6,750,000
2004 $7,250,000
2005 $8,500,000
Career (may be incomplete) $49,197,240
This muther er can't afford a suit? Come on...
Most employees of most businesses are required to dress a certain way while on company time. How many of those businesses are required to pay for their employees' "work clothes"? He can't afford a $200 suit at K&G? No, the problem is that he's not willing to wear one that costs $200. So the league should pay for his $5000 suit? Give me a freaking break.
Better news
thanks
Details just out - dress code will include mandatory WWF-style Championship belts for defending leholders.
Stern is a freaking asshole thats all
Some NBA players are, how can I put it simply . . . IDIOTS!
wow, thanks for those completely unnecassary statistics. the fact is that these guys dont want to have to pay for something that they dont want and dont want to wear.
It's not that they can't afford a nice suit, Camby wasnt saying his current salary couldnt afford him a new suit. He was saying if you want so badly for us to dress professionaly, then you foot the bill.
What possible reason could there be for forcing these guys to "suit up"? I can see why it would piss them off, and I can see that it is the pronciple of the matter that brought on these comments by camby.
My husband has to wear a required uniform at every job he has ever had.Most employees of most businesses are required to dress a certain way while on company time. How many of those businesses are required to pay for their employees' "work clothes"?
ANd at every job he has bene required to pay for that uniform hiself.Either buy it out right or rent it.
Same goes for PPE.
But I bet your husband would like to have his uniform paid for by the company.
I don't really understand the backlash that goes along with players discussing their opposition to terms of this dress code. It's one thing if you don't feel the company should be obligated to pay a stipend or let the players wear what they want... but it's another thing all together to suggest players should just shut up and do what they're told.
The NBA isn't like other jobs. If a waiter/waitress es about having to pay for a uniform, they are easily replaceable. There aren't thousands of Marcus Cambys and Allen Iversons waiting around to start NBA teams and do the same things they can do. Because of that clout, they are more able (and have every right) to voice disapproval of decisions by their employers.
That's what collective bargaining is for.Because of that clout, they are more able (and have every right) to voice disapproval of decisions by their employers.
They had their chance to help define any code this summer. It's their fault that they left it up to the owners.
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