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"have been here, legally"
"she was undo ented"
One sad reality of what we are sending people back to is a dangerous environment, where deportation is tantamount to a death sentence, as it was for Laura.
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SHAPIRO: You begin this article with a story of a 23-year-old woman named Laura who lived in Texas, had a restraining order against her husband in Mexico and was detained in a routine traffic stop. What happened to her?
STILLMAN: So Laura had actually been living in the U.S. for most of her adult life. She had U.S. citizen children. She was living in Texas. And one night, she was driving home from work when she was just pulled over for allegedly driving between two lanes. And the cop, when he stopped her, found out that she was undo ented. And he made the, at the time, unconventional decision to call Border Patrol to the scene.
And she pled for her life saying, I've got this protective order. I've been getting death threats from my ex-spouse who's back in Mexico who has joined a drug cartel. He really will kill me if I'm sent back. Nonetheless, that very same night, she was coerced into signing immediate removal paperwork and was marched across the bridge.
SHAPIRO: She said something really chilling to the border agent who detained her.
STILLMAN: Yes. Her last words actually to the Border Patrol agent who was sending her back across the bridge were, you know, when I'm found dead, it will be on your conscience. And indeed, that's exactly what transpired. Her body was found in a vehicle incinerated after she had been strangled.
https://www.npr.org/2018/01/09/57685...er-deportation
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(Thanks to Spurraider):
Now we have to think about people who have been here, legally, and are productive people, with jobs.
This was supposed to be in conjunction with the decision to end the temporary status of Salvadorans, who were here legally.
S.A. Salvadoran immigrants fear their future after US ends protections
http://www.kens5.com/news/local/sa-s...ions/506408719
Last edited by RandomGuy; 01-10-2018 at 02:47 PM.
"have been here, legally"
"she was undo ented"
white male supremacist racist Sessions firing on all cylinders
Justice Department Announces Court Order Revoking Naturalized Citizenship, Citing Fingerprint Issue
Operation Janus may revoke the citizenship of thousands of people, according to the Department of Homeland Security, some of whom have been U.S. citizens for decades.
Operation Janus identified 315,000 cases in which people were granted citizenship without the proper fingerprint data available, and USCIS intends “to refer approximately an additional 1,600 for prosecution,” t
The DOJ is asserting, according to its Tuesday statement, that cases in which proper fingerprint data is missing may suggest that some of those affected by USCIS’ oversight “sought to cir vent criminal record and other background checks in the naturalization process.”
Operation Janus does not bode well for the thousands of immigrants who have had to navigate the United States’ complicated, lengthy, and costly immigration system.
immigration to the United States on a temporary or permanent basis is limited to
three routes:
employment,
family reunification, or
humanitarian protection
—all avenues currently being attacked by the Trump administration.
Each of these routes is “highly regulated and subject to numerical limitations and eligibility requirements.”
https://rewire.news/article/2018/01/...erprint-issue/
Trash's JIM CROW USA: WHITES ONLY
slave-state Texas says undoc youth are not full humans, maybe only "3/5" humans?
Texas Attorney General: Undo ented Minors Aren’t En led to Due Process Rights
https://rewire.news/article/2018/01/...9e7a-111083417
Pro tip: don't marry into the Mexican cartel
Non issue
Yeah, I thought this was gonna be about deporting people back to a genocidal regime or something
Thank you, missed a link. I will go back in and edit the OP. This was supposed to be in conjunction with the decision to end the temporary status of Salvadorans, who were here legally.
S.A. Salvadoran immigrants fear their future after US ends protections
http://www.kens5.com/news/local/sa-s...ions/506408719
her life being taken and her children being left without a mother is a sad reality but being here for "most of her adult life" has me questioning why she never applied for citizenship when she could apply for a protective order. her life is no less valuable than the next man and the incident is tragic but laws are laws and she was here illegally. should MMxGA.
buh-bye!
Trump Is ‘Stealing’ Benefits From Elderly Immigrants He’s Expelling From the United States
Not only would deporting all Salvadoran, Honduran, and Haitian TPS recipients cost taxpayers $3.1 billion dollars, but their absence would leave a gigantic hole in the U.S. economy. ILRC reported that ending TPS for these three countries would result in a $6.9 billion reduction to Social Security and Medicare contributions over a decade, as well as a $45.2 billion reduction in GDP over a decade.
The lay-offs of the entire employed TPS population from El Salvador, Haiti, and Honduras would cost employers $967 million in turnover costs.
Despite popular narratives that immigrants don’t pay taxes, but rather “drain the system,” TPS recipients and undo ented immigrants are actually keeping benefits for Americans afloat.
“My friends and I have been talking about this a lot, and we want answers.
We have been paying into Social Security, paying taxes, thousands of us have been doing this.
We thought this money was being stored for our future,” Yanez said
If they force us to leave without giving us our benefits, that’s stealing. How can they send me back to El Salvador, at this age, with nothing? How can I build another life in El Salvador with nothing, not even with what is owed to me? We will die of hunger.”
“As TPS ends and people are forced to leave or they are deported, accessing their benefits isn’t really straightforward.
They have paid into Medicare, that they presumably will not get.
When it comes to Social Security, I think it’s a very complicated question that requires individuals to consult with tax advisers and immigration attorneys,”
https://rewire.news/article/2018/01/...-expelling-us/
GTFO
illegals crying about benefits? lmao!
holy , what have we come to when cuckold_deux cries foul over this kind of
my take on all this stuff...
1. i'm all for expanding avenues for legal immigration. i love that america is a "beacon of hope" for people that come from holes. i also think there is great benefit to having immigrants be more proactive in their attempts to assimilate more than we see in many pockets. for instance, MANY in the armenian community do a poor job at assimilating. the adults dont make much of an attempt to learn english, and they only hang out with other armenians. there are a ton of ethnic armenians BORN here who still treat english like their second language, and i'm not a fan of that dynamic. i like that my family has done a lot more to "americanize" and think that should be much more of a norm than it is
2. i absolutely understand the disdain towards illegal or undo ented immigrants (from a principled point of view, not the xenophobic one we see from some posters here). i think its hard to rationalize having a law and not punishing people for breaking that very law. sometimes executive decisions are made when legislators are slow to act (DACA), and that's often a really tough pill to swallow and is subject to dramatic, sudden shifts in policy (calling for end to DACA). it is substantially harder to justify when you have undo ented/illegal immigrants who also then commit crimes (kate's law stuff).
3. but there's also the humanitarian aspect to it, whether people want to acknowledge it or not. do we round up families who have been law abiding, productive, and just trying to live after escaping violence/crime in their home country? that just seems like really ty policy. i dont think mass deportation is humane, practical, or cost effective. i'm willing to send criminal aliens home, though.
4. at the VERY LEAST, i cant imagine a justification against DACA protection. punishing someone for a crime usually has to do with their decision to commit that crime. a 12 year old dragged here illegally by his/her parents has absolutely no say in that decision. and if that 12 year old then comes here, finishes high school, has gainful employment or is in college, or is otherwise a productive member of society, how the do you justify punishing THAT person by stripping them of everything they've worked for because their parents made a decision on their behalf a decade ago. it's complete nonsense. i have an extra soft spot here because a few years ago, my now-wife's immigration attorney at one point was advising her of her option to NOT renew her visa and just to go undo ented because she would have DACA protection... if she had gone that route and DACA was suddenly stripped, she'd have been utterly ed
it's the "feelings" crowd killing this great nation. sad but true. we need more psychwards in this nation.
"america is a "beacon of hope" for people that come from holes."
America is already a hole for 10Ms Americans, 40M+ on public assistance, 10Ms living in mfr'd homes in trailer parks, 100Ks homeless sleeping rough, and 100Ks living in their cars, RVs, vans.
The oligarchy, having bought themselves $Ts in tax cuts, will now switch to screwing, ground down the poor even more by cutting the safety net, because as a Christian country, that's what Christ would do.
Or maybe it's what the wealthy Jewish, money-changing Pharisees would do?
I'd get rid of any immigration attorney who advised me to break the law.
Posted September the 5th 1939
I hate you so ing much.
"i think its hard to rationalize having a law and not punishing people for breaking that very law. "
Like banks making $Bs by breaking the law but not being punished?
Or do you mean "PEOPLE" who are non-white, poor, and/or non-American
Would deport you first if I was dictator..directly to Venezuela so you could experience Bernienomics and horse like your $52k minimum wage firsthand
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