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Karen PearlImagine walking into a pharmacy with a prescription and being told by the pharmacist, "I won't fill it. It's my right not to fill it." Yes, it's outrageous, but this is exactly what happened to a 26-year-old woman who presented a prescription for emergency contraception at a Target in Fenton, MO, on September 30. Planned Parenthood is demanding that pharmacists dispense medication, not moral judgment, and we need your voice to be
heard, too.
Target has ignored three attempts by Planned Parenthood Federation of America (PPFA) to determine their national policy regarding pharmacists' refusal to fill valid, legal prescriptions for birth control, including emergency
contraception. But they cannot ignore hundreds of thousands of
potential customers.
Pharmacies must ensure that women get their prescriptions filled
in-store, without discrimination or delay!
Interim President
Planned Parenthood Federation of America
On behalf of the Planned Parenthood community
PPAction
What if that pharmacist said no to Black peoples' medicine because he was a racist? Or won't sell pain killing medication because he feels that suffering is good for the soul? How about doing the job that you were trained and hired to do without the personal input?
At the store where I get our prescriptions filled, the owners put up a sign that states that it is store policy to fill all valid prescriptions and if there is any problem with that to ask for the store manager immediately.
I asked the pharmacist about it and he said that he would be fired on the spot for putting his personal beliefs before a customers' needs.
no joke
So having a conscience and acting on it is only valid for 'left-wing' causes and not 'right-wing' ones. Understood.
Last edited by Marcus Bryant; 10-19-2005 at 10:25 AM. Reason: grammar
well the point is if you work at HEB and refuse to checkout porkchops because its your religion, than you have that right, you just dont have the right to keep your job
Sure and the company faces that pressure as well from its customers.
It would be more like if a company sold products made in overseas sweatshops and a checker refused to ring those up because they could not bear participating in the 'exploitation' of those poor workers. Then Nbadan would be posting about how great it is that the checker was standing up to the neocons and globalists or whatever.
Racial discrimination is prohibited (in certain cir stances) by the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and subsequent amendments thereto. Baby killing is not.
Oh, and I didn't realize there was "black people's medicine."
There are a variety of ethical/legal conflicts in medicine. We could see a pharmacist run into trouble for providing a terminally ill patient in severe pain with a lethal (and illegal) dose of some medication.
Bringing race into this is asinine.
he meant the medicine black people take
as in posses
naturally
last I heard target was still a privately owned business that can decide what it wants to sell and to whom it wants to sell it too...
Don't see a problem with this at all. Since when are people forced to shop at Target? Go to another damn pharmacy.
^^^My first thought on the issue exactly....
another great example of people going nuts over what some private company decides to do with it's own company...
Starbucks stirs things up with a God quote on cups
By Cathy Lynn Grossman, USA TODAY Wed Oct 19, 7:25 AM ET
Coffee drinkers could get a spiritual jolt with their java in the spring when Starbucks begins putting a God-filled quote from the Rev. Rick Warren, author of the mega-selling The Purpose-Driven Life, on its cups.
It will be the first mention of God in the company's provocative quote campaign, The Way I See It. In 2005, Starbucks is printing 63 quotes from writers, scientists, musicians, athletes, politicians and cultural critics on cups for company-run and licensed locations to carry on the coffeehouse tradition of conversation and debate.
Some mention "faith in the human spirit," but none is overtly religious. Last month, Baylor University pulled Starbucks cups after objections to a quote from writer Armistead Maupin saying that "life is too damn short" to hide being gay.
Warren says the idea of a grande pitch for God as creator came to him after seeing a Starbucks quote on evolution from paleontologist Louise Leakey. Because Starbucks solicited customer contributions for 2006, Warren sent his in. On Tuesday, Starbucks spokeswoman Sanja Gould confirmed that it would be used.
The cups carry a disclaimer that the opinions "do not necessarily reflect the views of Starbucks."
But a few companies plant clues to Christianity in their wrappings, music or signs precisely because the owners are believers.
In-N-Out Burger, the California-based fast-food chain, has included tiny notations for Bible verses in some of its burger and drink packaging since Richard Snyder, son of the founders, called for it in 1987. "He told me, 'It's just something I want to do,' " company spokesman Carl Van Fleet says.
After Snyder's death in 1993, "the family felt strongly about keeping this just as he had done it" at its 196 outlets in California, Arizona and Nevada. The Bible book and verse in minuscule type "are so subtle most of our customers never notice."
One who did: Don Chang, the deeply religious founder of clothing chains Forever 21 and XXI.
Five years ago, the clothier copied In-N-Out by stamping the Bible book, chapter and verse notation John 3:16 on the bottom of his stores' shopping bags: "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."
It's "evidence of faith," corporate spokesman Larry Meyer says.
Other owners making a faith statement in the secular marketplace include David Green, whose craft chain Hobby Lobby plays only Christian contemporary music in its 362 stores, and S. Truett Cathy, who advertises that Chick-fil-A sandwich shops nationwide are closed on Sundays to free employees to focus on faith and family.
"Americans are more accepting of overt religiosity these days, and corporations are good at figuring out how to do it with a light touch, one that's not going to scare off unbelievers," says sociologist David Halle, director of the LeRoy Neiman Center for the Study of American Society and Culture at the University of California-Los Angeles.
Alaska Airlines has put baseball-card-size prayer cards on hot-meal trays for 30 years "just to differentiate us from the compe ion," spokeswoman Amanda Tobin says. "Compliments have always far outweighed complaints."
it's called hypnotiq.. with a Q
The basic question is this, where do you draw the line? Would you allow a pharmacist to refuse to fill prescriptions for Viagra for unmarried men? Would you allow them to refuse to fill prescriptions for AIDS drugs? Would you allow one of your cashiers to refuse to ring up a sale for condoms because they don't "believe" in birth control? Where do you draw the line?
The part that I find particularly inconceivable is that Target is willing to let these pharmacists turn away a PAYING customer. Isn't Target in business to make money?
The simple fact is that Target is letting it's pharmacists engage in egregiously sexist behavior based on personal beliefs. I have shopped at Target for years now as an alternative to Wal-Mart. That stops as of today. I will no longer patronize this business and will encourage my friends and family to shop elsewhere as well until the day that your corporation stands up to religious bullies and insists that they do their job...which the last time I checked was to fill legal prescriptions, not to practice medicine or proselitize for their religious views.
I may take all my business to Target as of today. I see no difference in this and having a Christmas scene on public property. Public is the key word to me. I own it just like those who object to it do, do they have more rights than me? I don't thing so. They don't like it then wait till Christmas is over with and put up an anti-Christ display, I can ignore it. So there.
Maybe Fenton, MO doesn't have a Walgreens on every major intersection?
Anyway, a pharmacist's job should be to fill prescriptions, not as a moral gatekeeper. If there seems to be a problem, the pharmacist should consult the doctor and/or the manager. In this case, Target should have a clear policy of what actions pharmacists are allowed, and then the consumer can take from there. In any case, this seems open to some sort of legal case. What if the patient is harmed by the pharmacist denying the prescription?
I think maybe some of the companies may have a hard time finding qualified pharmacist to go to work for them. So when something is in short supply you don't run off the hired help. Something is better than nothing. Especially if you need a prescription filled that has nothing to do with the problem being discussed.
no joke
Agree 100%
I guess everybody is going to have their opinion and nobody is going to change their mind, but I'm going to throw mine in there too.
I don't have much of a problem with emergency contraception. I think it's mostly a good thing and more people should probably be informed about it.
That said, no one should ever be required to violate their own conscience because of their job. We may not all have the same convictions, but I support people who stick to their convictions.
I understand where NBADan is coming from, ie, where does it end? But on the other hand, where does it end if we require people to do things that violate their conscience as part of a job? Should all doctors be required to provide abortions? What if a draft happens again? Should conscientous objectors be required to kill people in combat? Remember that at one time slavery was legal, and anyone who happened upon a runaway slave was required by law to report them, your conscience be damned.
In this country, we are supposed to have the right to our own moral convictions, whether everyone else agrees or not, and it should never be any other way. The only limitation is that we harm no one else.
By the way, in case anyone reading this needs emergency contraception or knows anyone who does, you can call 1-800-NOT-2-LATE to find out how to get the morning after pill where you live. You can use it up to 3 days after sex, or depending who your doctor is, up to 5 days after.
Last edited by BronxCowboy; 10-19-2005 at 05:40 PM.
Your open racism never ceases to amaze and apall me.
Personally, I think pharmacists should stay the out of my business. You're a pharmacist, fill that ing bottle and give to me. Don't ask any god damn questions.
If that ever happens at HEB, I'll just go to Walgreens. No biggie, I'm sure I'll find someone who'll want my business.
Target sucks ass.
I would never, ever give up Target. NEVER!
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