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It is the fault of Pop and RC that Leonard has not played all season???
To all of you saying Tim covered up Pop's and RC's flaws ... duh! They said as much in interviews over the years. Clearly they were not just being folksy.
And even if they were being a little tongue-in-cheek, don't forget coaches and GMs have a shelf life, too. Pop and RC are past their prime. It happens. Like Harvey Dent said in The Dark Knight, "You either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain."
Pop/RC appear to have outlived their usefulness. The tough thing is how do you part ways with them without it being a PR nightmare. See Bobby Bowden and Joe Paterno in college football for examples. Those transitions at the end of their championship careers were painful and set those programs back for many years.
I'm reading all these frustrated comments about the poor roster and possible botching of Kawhi's situation, and I naturally assume you want them fired. Because seriously, it's not like they're intentionally being bad at their jobs. They are past their primes and therefore need to go, right?
But how did you show Pop and RC the door in a classy way after all these years of success? Because we know this from Pop quotes in the past: "The money's pretty good." In other words, he's saying, "Don't expect me to just walk away." That's the same thing Manu is doing, Tony is doing, and even Tim did (at a much higher level).
So, how do you do it? How do you fire these guys? Seriously?
It is the fault of Pop and RC that Leonard has not played all season???
Phew, I’m glad I’m not the only one worried Pop’s exit will be similar to that of Joe Paterno. Coach Bud did terrible things to me #MeToo
Maybe? We don't really know anything.
Pop and RC may not be what they use to be, but people need to quit pretending we can simply hire someone better. I’ve watched this league for over 25 years and 75% of teams suck because of management and the rest have a considerable amount of luck.
should the Spurs let pop and RC go, their replacements are likely to be worse. It’s just the odds.
What is is a hidden quality with Pop is what he can get out of lesser players. That is simply a must when it comes to being a small market team. We are third in the West with this team... like it or not, it is impressive.
im tired of Pop and his alter ego, but quit thinking it would just be so easy to replace him and still be successful let alone better... as for RC? To me he’s really more of Pops puppet and replaceable
We'll see how great a coach that Pop is now that he's got a disastrous-as-rated-by-Manu season to salvage.
They managed his minutes, and kept him out of the playoffs to save further damage on his ankle. He came into camp hurt, with no explanation given other than wear and tear.. Whatever is wrong with him, has nothing to do with coaching or the Front office..
That's what happened when the best power forward of all time leaves your team. Spurs are lucky to still be where they are at, tbh...just need Leonard to get healthy and come back.
Third. In. The. West. es.
At the moment he took over, was Pop and upgrade from Bob Hill? Hill had just taken the team to the WCF after years and years of playoff failures with high expectations. What experience as a head coach in the NBA did pop have? And Pop almost got fired WITH Tim Duncan.
He was no upgrade when he took over.
What a bunch of bull . Look, this version of the Spurs thats being trotted out on the floor is NOT what Pop or RC had in mind. This team was set up to revolve around Kawhi Leonard and LaMarcus Aldridge. Everyone else were support players - young and old. Last season - without Tim Duncan, this roster with the exception of Jonathan Simmons, reached the WCF.
I thought it was downright ing miraculous that they got that far with the lack of talent they had. So this year, despite not having their best player available for the majority of the season, being in third place in the Western Conference and having statistically, one of the highest rated Defenses in the league, it's time to usher the coach and GM off the team.
Holy . I'm not tuning in to watch many games this year because the product is sub-par. No Leonard, no Rudy Gay, no scoring punch from Mills - its been ugly. The NBA is typically about who has the best talent but in the Spurs' case, the system and coaching staff has played a HUGE part in their success. Earlier this year there were threads saying "Do we even need Kawhi?" when Rudy Gay was playing decently.
The Spurs are mired in injuries and strange lineups right now. They are faced with an aging roster and relying on unlikely players to contribute heavy minutes. No one is happy about this but lets pump the brakes on putting the blame on Pop and RC. Lets see this thing play out first.
This. There were a lot of people who were upset at the front office during the summertime for not making the moves that they wanted. Had Kawhi stayed healthy this year and played at his MVP level these people would not have been able to voice their anger because the Spurs would have been winning. With Kawhi being out it gives them tons of ammo to scream "I told you so Pop and RC are garbage they don't know what they are doing since the Spurs are losing. This team is complete trash." My reaction is of course the Spurs are going to not be an elite team without their Superstar. Take away any superstar from their team and that team will struggle outside of Warriors who are lucky to have 2 superstars. The Rox for example were terrible this year when they lost Harden to injury. Even a better example is if you take Tim off of the '03 championship team and watch them become a lottery team. Like you said this team was designed with Kawhi-LMA being the focal points with the rest of the pieces complimenting them. If Kawhi is healthy this team record wise would be competing with the Rox,Warriors for the best record in the West.
The losses this team has suffered doesn't really bother me because without a healthy Kawhi the season is lost and thus the team is incomplete. By the way I don't think Kawhi is coming back this year so for me I feel no need to be heavily vested in the results of these games.
If any other team bar GS had it's best player miss 50 odd games, they wouldn't be in the playoffs let alone the 3rd seed
If any other team bar GS had it's best player miss 50 odd games, they wouldn't be in the playoffs let alone the 3rd seed
Of course not because they wouldn't have had the easiest schedule in the NBA like the Spurs didIf any other team bar GS had it's best player miss 50 odd games, they wouldn't be in the playoffs let alone the 3rd seed
The only place I ever read about how “Pop and RC suck” is here. You don’t see this criticism virtually anywhere else
As I've said before, es gonna . What can you do?
This is the only place where you have re s expecting the team to win a lot of games without their superstar.
I don’t. But I’m a person that sees someone like Mills and knows that he won’t help against the teams we have to beat. He won’t be able to defend anyone (especially since we switch so much). And if he can’t hit shots then he’s useless. And then I haven’t complained about Gasol much lately (even though I don’t like his contract) he’s also unplayable for the most part against the teams we have to beat. I just want a trade even if Kawhi comes back. A defender with size who can hit the occasional 3 and a defensive big (I know these can be difficult to come by right now).
I agree with you 100 percent. It would be nice if the Spurs could get an athletic perimeter player or a big man that could defend. I really miss Dedmon and David Lee.
Unfortunately, we had both of those needs in Dedmon and Simmons.
This is my opinion too, but this is also what I've been telling people about Pop. Back in the day, if the player wasn't going to perform against the teams you need to beat, Pop never would have re-signed them. I don't understand what has changed with him and why he's doing it now.
I’ll tell you what it is. Pop is at the tail end of his career and he just wants to spend it with people he’s comfortable with. It seems like he’s willing to even put the future in jeopardy because of it.
If the Spurs hadn't re-signed Pau they would only have two bigs on the roster and one of them is Joffrey ing Lauvergne. And since it was a Bird rights signing, letting him walk would not have freed up any cap space. They would have had to use the MLE on a big and there is no guarantee that player would be as good as Pau. He can play normal minutes against just about any team, even Houston. And even if he is borderline unplayable against GS you have to get that far first, no way the Spurs get that far without Pau.
We very well could see a trade happen anyway due to apprehension (as close to panic as Pop and RC get).
Going to hold by judgment on them until I see what they do this off-season with improving the team. I believe they have a lot of work to do if the Spurs are as bad as they’ve looked recently.
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