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    Monsanto Recognized as AACC ‘Champion of Diversity & Inclusion’
    http://www.stltoday.com/pr/business/...10c529e80.html

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    Monsanto Recognized as AACC ‘Champion of Diversity & Inclusion’
    http://www.stltoday.com/pr/business/...10c529e80.html
    This troll thread is pretty lame considering conservatives have about the same view of GMO as liberals
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    http://www.pewinternet.org/2015/07/0...on-about-food/

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    GMOs are generally safe btw and one of the best things to happen to the world last 50 years tbh

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    This troll thread is pretty lame considering conservatives have about the same view of GMO as liberals
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    http://www.pewinternet.org/2015/07/0...on-about-food/
    Read an article a while back stating that the young (not sure if that was millennial or younger) generation has no problems with GMOs. Science is science. Funny how we see posts on here mocking those who believe in a flat Earth or a man living in the clouds while science says otherwise, but yet a lot of those have no problem believing Big Ag is poisening us one bite at a time when science doesn't agree with them.

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    yeah anti gmo stuff is close to the same level as anti vax people

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    yeah anti gmo stuff is close to the same level as anti vax people
    Stunning take 21.

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    Stunning take 21.
    yeah they're equally stupid. i just say "close to the same level" because anti vax movement is much more directly harmful

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    the problem with GMO is not necessarily the GMO itself, but Monsanto, etc selling 100 tons of chemicals annually to poison air, land, water, people.

    This anti-GMO is always ignored by pro-GMO assholes.

    GMO is meant not to improve crops, nutrition, etc, it's ONLY to enslave farmers to maintaining/increasing Monsanto, etc profits.

    It's akin to rentier capitalism, in that farmers are forced to "rent" their GMO crop output to Monsanto, etc. iow, farmers can't get to their crops without going through perennial rent paid to Monsanto.




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    there are always issues with monopolization. that's different than something being inherently bad about gmo's

    your concern about the current economic model of the gmo industry should be separated from the unfounded health paranoia

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    the problem with GMO is not necessarily the GMO itself, but Monsanto, etc selling 100 tons of chemicals annually to poison air, land, water, people.

    This anti-GMO is always ignored by pro-GMO assholes.

    GMO is meant not to improve crops, nutrition, etc, it's ONLY to enslave farmers to maintaining/increasing Monsanto, etc profits.

    It's akin to rentier capitalism, in that farmers are forced to "rent" their GMO crop output to Monsanto, etc. iow, farmers can't get to their crops without going through perennial rent paid to Monsanto.



    Perfect example of how someone can talk out of there ass, make up , and spread propganda. I LITERALLY just talked to my neighbor who is growing non GMO soybeans. He is throwing the kitchen sink in on chemicals since nothing will kill weeds in the one they are up. Literally three times the tail you could hey by with GMO beans. Pretty standard protocol tbh.

    Roundup soybeans are off patent. Monsanto does not collect a dime off the original beans. People are pulling them out of the bin and planting then.


    And do I REALLY even need to dissect your comment about GMOS are meant only to enslave?

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    Perfect example of how someone can talk out of there ass, make up , and spread propganda. I LITERALLY just talked to my neighbor who is growing non GMO soybeans. He is throwing the kitchen sink in on chemicals since nothing will kill weeds in the one they are up. Literally three times the tail you could hey by with GMO beans. Pretty standard protocol tbh.

    Roundup soybeans are off patent. Monsanto does not collect a dime off the original beans. People are pulling them out of the bin and planting then.


    And do I REALLY even need to dissect your comment about GMOS are meant only to enslave?
    Monsanto, Syngenta, Bayer are continually tweaking their poison formulas, "stacks" to obtain new patents, or extend old ones, just like BigPharma does.

    show us where BigAg, and farmers are not enslaved forever to Monsanto/BigChem

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    How many countries have banned Monsanto?

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    How many countries have banned Monsanto?
    globalist government regulation good now

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    How many?

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    Pesticide makers’ representatives want more poisons in our food

    Campaign contributions buy a lot of agriculture committee votes

    The proposed farm bill couldnullify bans by Arkansas and other states on dicamba, the pesticide that damaged an estimated 3.6 million acres of soybeans across the country.

    The
    House Agriculture Committee whose members have received more than $1 million in campaign contributions from the pesticide industry since 2012, approved the bill, H.R. 2, on a voice vote. Rep. Mike Conaway, R-Texas, the committee chairmanand the recipient of $117,000 from the pesticide industry and its trade association, CropLife America, hopes to bring the bill to the full House in May.


    “Part of this process on timing on the floor will be dictated by how well I’m able to sell this to my colleagues,” Conaway said.


    Erik Olson
    of the Natural Resources Defense Council said the bill would overturn Supreme Court rulings and prohibit local governments from adopting pesticide laws that are more protective than federal rules.


    “It appears to be retroactive,” said Olson, director of the council’s health program.


    Dicamba has been around for
    decades, but its use was limited because the chemical evaporates easily, particularly at higher temperatures, and drifts, damaging plants in field that have not been sprayed with the chemical.


    In 1974, another pesticide,
    Roundup, containing glyphosate, was introduced and became one of the world’s most widely used pesticides. That overuse led to weeds like pigweed becoming resistant.


    Three chemical companies,
    Monsanto,DowDuPont and BASF, developed what they claimed were “low-volatility” versions of dicamba that didn’t evaporate so easily. Monsanto genetically altered soybeans and cotton to better tolerate dicamba, an approach it had also used for Roundup.


    In 2017, farmers planted dicamba-tolerant crops on
    26 million acres, but the new versions of dicamba also drifted, damaging neighboring soybean fields, vegetables and orchards. The worst damage was in Arkansas, Missouri and Tennessee.

    https://www.salon.com/2018/05/12/pes...-food_partner/

    Assholes proving themselves, yet again, as assholes by defending BigChem poisoning of the planet for profit


    Is nutrition better? the planet healtheir? is crop output better? due to BigChem?

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    i dont know that any country has banned Monsanto

    some countries have bans on cultivating GMO crops generally (not specific to monsanto)... and most of those countries still allow those same GMO crops to be imported

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    as far as i'm aware, countries that have bans on both cultivating AND importing gmo's include:

    algeria, bhutan, kergyzstan, madagascar, peru, russia, venezuela, zimbabwe

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    Monsanto, Syngenta, Bayer are continually tweaking their poison formulas, "stacks" to obtain new patents, or extend old ones, just like BigPharma does.

    show us where BigAg, and farmers are not enslaved forever to Monsanto/BigChem
    Uhhhh, the neighbor I just referenced that is growing non GMO sems pretty non enslaved......

    Two years ago I grew non GMO corn and beans......



    The stacks that they are introducing is because Extend beans (dicba resistant) work great but the old chemical dicamba is prone to volotization. Meaning up to a week or two after it is applied the chemical basically rises back up and drifts. By tweaking the inert part of the chemical they are hoping to make it volotization less. Not changing the active ingredient part of it.

    The stacking of traits (Roundup, liberty, extend, enlist) is actually one of the best ideas ever. Dicamba volitizes when it's hot. Liberty works great when it's hot, poor when it's cool.


    Spray dicamba early in the year. Come back later in the summer and spray with Liberty mixed with some Roundup for grass control. Change it up with Enlist (2 4 D). Weeds get different model of action, they never get a chance to become resistant.

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    Uhhhh, the neighbor I just referenced that is growing non GMO sems pretty non enslaved......
    your anecdotes are meaningless, useless.

    BigChem's enormous profits from poisoning the planet aren't

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    This troll thread is pretty lame considering conservatives have about the same view of GMO as liberals
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    http://www.pewinternet.org/2015/07/0...on-about-food/
    Should have pulled this quote too "There are no statistically significant differences on the safety of eating GM foods between Republicans and those who lean to the Republican Party as compared with Democrats and those who lean to the Democratic Party. Nor are there differences on this issue among political or ideological groups."

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    booboo and chris, shoulder to shoulder

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    booboo and chris, shoulder to shoulder
    We finally found something stupid enough to unite them

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    i dont know that any country has banned Monsanto

    some countries have bans on cultivating GMO crops generally (not specific to monsanto)... and most of those countries still allow those same GMO crops to be imported
    as far as i'm aware, countries that have bans on both cultivating AND importing gmo's include:

    algeria, bhutan, kergyzstan, madagascar, peru, russia, venezuela, zimbabwe
    do you have any information to the contrary, Chris

    I assume you asked "how many countries have banned monsanto" as a rhetorical question, as you already had an answer in mind. let me know if i'm mistaken somewhere. it's quite possible i have bad info

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    I'm not going to argue the evils of the Monsanto corporation or GMO's. They are well do ented.

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    I'm not going to argue the evils of the Monsanto corporation or GMO's. They are well do ented.
    im just asking about your specific question of "what countries have banned monsanto"

    was there anything inaccurate in my responses?

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