View Poll Results: Bigger choke?

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  1. #1
    Board Man Comes Home Clipper Nation's Avatar
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    I can't decide, but I'm leaning towards this being the bigger choke.

    In 2016, the Warriors hadn't added KD yet, and LeBron straight-up took that series from them with GOAT-level performances.

    In 2018, the Warriors have KD. And this series hasn't been the story of a GOAT doing GOAT things. The Rockets have been absolutely terrible in clutch situations themselves, and have tried so hard to gift these last two games away to the Warriors - and the Warriors have still managed to outchoke them. Add on to the fact that they should be sweeping every series they play in with how much they've stacked the deck, and I really think this will surpass the 2016 Finals as the biggest choke in sports history if they lose this.

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    I can't decide, but I'm leaning towards this being the bigger choke.

    In 2016, the Warriors hadn't added KD yet, and LeBron straight-up took that series from them with GOAT-level performances.

    In 2018, the Warriors have KD. And this series hasn't been the story of a GOAT doing GOAT things. The Rockets have been absolutely terrible in clutch situations themselves, and have tried so hard to gift these last two games away to the Warriors - and the Warriors have still managed to outchoke them. Add on to the fact that they should be sweeping every series they play in with how much they've stacked the deck, and I really think this will surpass the 2016 Finals as the biggest choke in sports history if they lose this.
    I think it is. Made a thread about it, as well. There's no excuse for losing a series when you have 3 of the top 10 players in the league on the same team, in their prime, and number 4 who is one of the great shooters in the league. Rockets have Clint Capela and the corpse of Eric Gordon as their 3 and 4

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    I'll tumble for ya Chris Fall's Avatar
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    Who are the THREE top 10 players on Golden State?

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    Derrick White fanboy FkLA's Avatar
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    Eric Gordon and Capella are good. Donkey is overrated.

    No need to exaggerate the potential choke. 73-9 team adding an in his prime, once in a lifetime talent is enough to make them the biggest chokers ever if they manage to lose.

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    SeaGOAT midnightpulp's Avatar
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    Eric Gordon and Capella are good. Donkey is overrated.

    No need to exaggerate the potential choke. 73-9 team adding an in his prime, once in a lifetime talent is enough to make them the biggest chokers ever if they manage to lose.
    Green is constant fixture in the top 10 players per RPM, finishing high as 2nd and 4th, and ranks 2nd on the Warriors this year. I have my issues with the metric, but it's the best we've got thus far in measuring player impact.

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    Derrick White fanboy FkLA's Avatar
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    Come on man. He's in a perfect situation where his glaring weaknesses don't matter. That makes his strengths stand out that much more. He's a really really good role player, but that's it. Top 10 guys are the type of players you build around. Any team that builds around Donkey will be lucky to win 10 games.

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    Green is constant fixture in the top 10 players per RPM, finishing high as 2nd and 4th, and ranks 2nd on the Warriors this year. I have my issues with the metric, but it's the best we've got thus far in measuring player impact.
    Green is a scrub who was manufactured by the league/refs into a DPOY and All-Star. His artificial impact still contributes to the Warriors being a stacked team, but you're overrating his true talent.

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    EAT IT!!! Kawhitstorm's Avatar
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    2015 Vs Rockets is still the biggest choke..Gosh Smith

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    2015 Vs Rockets is still the biggest choke..Gosh Smith
    That was an all-timer for sure, but it pales in comparison to either of these chokes.

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    Narratives suck. Loser of this series is going to be labelled chokers. We're watching 2 historically great teams duel it out.

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    Millennial Messiah UNT Eagles 2016's Avatar
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    That was an all-timer for sure, but it pales in comparison to either of these chokes.
    Still, that one was pretty epic... up 27 at home near the end of the 3rd quarter in a game 6 up 3-2 and find a way to lose?


    This one really isn't a choke, though. Up 2-1, but plenty of teams come back from that. Houston is a high quality team and the #1 overall team, better than GSW all year, for a reason. 2016 was the GOAT choke for sure.

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    Eric Gordon and Capella are good. Donkey is overrated.

    No need to exaggerate the potential choke. 73-9 team adding an in his prime, once in a lifetime talent is enough to make them the biggest chokers ever if they manage to lose.
    Sometimes it's addition by subtraction. You noticed they had a worse record last year after finishing 73-9, right?

    Perhaps Durant disrupts their flow of chemistry. He's good for bailing them out if they have a cold shooting night but is a ball stopper in a more free flowing offense, taking shots away from the other stars.

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    Still, that one was pretty epic... up 27 at home near the end of the 3rd quarter in a game 6 up 3-2 and find a way to lose?


    This one really isn't a choke, though. Up 2-1, but plenty of teams come back from that. Houston is a high quality team and the #1 overall team, better than GSW all year, for a reason. 2016 was the GOAT choke for sure.
    It was 19 but they easily would have lost had it been 27.

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    How about giving the Rockets defense some ing credit? How about realizing that championships are ing hard to win (Warriors 2 les came with the exceptions of injuries to their biggest threats)? That having it “easy” doesn’t last forever. Eventually, you’ll have to face real playoff adversity. I don’t care how ing talented you are. This isn’t NBA 2K18 where you easily win every game by 30+. This Warriors team is simply getting exposed FFS.

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    Yawn

    Boring.

    Just end this season already.

    Hopefully Boston wins just to shut everyone up.

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    Nothing will top 3-1 unless they choke again in the Finals

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    No Popovich to stop D'Antoni fun and gun. They might go all the way which is hard to fathom but anything is possible in today's NBA

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    Yeah, it's crazy, the Rockets didn't even play all that good the last couple games. They beat the Dubs not once but twice without scoring 100. If you told me they would fail to score 100 three straight games, I'd tell you the series wasn't going any further than 6 games and likely a sweep.

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    Veteran Raven's Avatar
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    not even close

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    Believe. JuegaBonito's Avatar
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    Green is constant fixture in the top 10 players per RPM, finishing high as 2nd and 4th, and ranks 2nd on the Warriors this year. I have my issues with the metric, but it's the best we've got thus far in measuring player impact.
    You are on Drugs if you think Draymond Green is a top 10 player, this dude would not even be talked about if he didn't have 3 all stars around him. Top 30 player? Maybe.

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    All this hoopla of people thinking there's going to be something different this year. I have a feeling it's going to be the Cavs and the Warriors again and the Warriors will win. I will certainly welcome some difference though.

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    No one can win in Boston and the Cavs aren't playing the Raptors, whom they can get away with not having a coach against.

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    Since there's so many bad takes/narrative hunters here

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    Since there's so many bad takes/narrative hunters here
    Speaking of bad takes, this is a really bad tweet. Game 1 wasn't even over yet last year when Kawhi got injured. Tough to say that series "turned" when neither team had even won a game yet. For all we know, maybe the Spurs still would have blown that lead even if Kawhi stayed healthy. And just at pretending that Curry was injured in 2016.

    It's weird how whenever LeBron is anything less than perfect, he's blamed and called a choker. But now that the Warriors are actually starting to choke, the blog boys are starting up with excuses like "the playoffs are totally random" and "there's no such thing as choking." Ridiculous. The Warriors added another prime MVP to their 73-win/championship roster. Since they've stacked the deck that much, the expectations are that they either win the Finals every year or they've choked - there's no middle ground.

  25. #25
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    Nope. 3 of the greatest Spurs of all time were on that 2001 team. Didn't matter. Kobe mopped the floor with their ing ass.

    Kobe


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