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    I was surprised how empty his rapport with Pop has turned out to be, tbh. You would think there would be a mentor-protege angle to the relationship. It was cold and pretty much non-existing throughout the years..

    Pop is privately one of most caring individual in the entire league. That he wasn't able to get through to this dude--or wasn't allowed to-- is more of a reflection on Kawhi than anyone else.

    Leonard is an anti-social type who really doesn't value human relations much outside the tight circle of family.

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    Assburgers tbh

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    His mental and emotional toughness/issues became very apparent.

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    His mental and emotional toughness/issues became very apparent.
    "silent assassin" "kingslayer" ..

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    I think he never got the proper help he needed to get over his dad and kepted everything inside


    pop seemed yesterday he only cared for players what they did on the community side then on the court

    leonard never had camps like green

    pop truly thinks basketball is a game kids play and he gets paid for it

    he does not understand what other people go thru and die and breath the silver and black and want them to win
    their break from life is SPURS

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    Fact- he drives a 1997 chevy tahoe

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    fact
    he is building a 3 million dollar house in sa for him
    he also is building one for his mom
    but he hates sa?

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    I think he never got the proper help he needed to get over his dad and kepted everything inside


    pop seemed yesterday he only cared for players what they did on the community side then on the court

    leonard never had camps like green

    pop truly thinks basketball is a game kids play and he gets paid for it

    he does not understand what other people go thru and die and breath the silver and black and want them to win
    their break from life is SPURS
    Aspects of our character get molded by childhood experiences..Yeah, he's a type who could be worth a psychoanalysis through an exhaustive background check....

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    That he is one real weird mother er.

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    how weak the roster besides him PATFO assembled is, tbh. it took a career 2nd team all NBA year from LMAlpha just to drag these bums into the postseason by a margin of one game

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    What surprised me, was his refusal to address the fans and organization that supported him for so many years. Whether he truly felt he was treated bad or not, he never nutted up and told the world where he stood. That is just a matter of being a stand up guy and up front. Even if PATFO seriously screwed him over, he can't hide behind reporters and his family and not speak up. As a man in this world (IMHO) that is a serious flaw and at best just unprofessional.

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    there's going to be some real in the next CBA negotiations, owners will not put up with stars essentially voiding the last year or two of their contracts, or holding teams hostages with the new trendy 1+1 deals the upper echelon stars will take going forward...

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    there's going to be some real in the next CBA negotiations, owners will not put up with stars essentially voiding the last year or two of their contracts, or holding teams hostages with the new trendy 1+1 deals the upper echelon stars will take going forward...
    Did you forget to switch alts?

    Good post.

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    Not surprising so maybe doesn't qualify but still, just how much narrative gets created when someone doesn't speak to the media. Kawhi and Pop at the same time, that's a perfect quiet storm. Media basically invents the narrative and you can assume about 50% of it is close to accurate.

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    I don't yet really know what was really up with that injury. When I know, it will probably be the most surprising thing.

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    fact
    he is building a 3 million dollar house in sa for him
    he also is building one for his mom
    but he hates sa?
    That explains DeRozan, need more bricks.

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    I think he never got the proper help he needed to get over his dad and kepted everything inside


    pop seemed yesterday he only cared for players what they did on the community side then on the court

    leonard never had camps like green

    pop truly thinks basketball is a game kids play and he gets paid for it

    he does not understand what other people go thru and die and breath the silver and black and want them to win
    their break from life is SPURS
    Pop's best friend, spouse and partner for 40 years died. He's got a different world view than some.

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    It's not necessarily something I learned but more confirmed -- Kawhi is just not a very smart dude. I have never seen someone implode like this and I'm genuinely curious to follow his story in Toronto.

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    fact
    he is building a 3 million dollar house in sa for him
    he also is building one for his mom
    but he hates sa?
    Fact: houses can sell, many times at appreciated prices

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    We still don’t know why or how he missed 73 games due to “injury”

    Only thing confirmed is how manipulating the media can really be

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    I have been on record for years stating that I honestly believe that he was socially re ed and that he probably suffered from some social disorder such as Aspergers,Autism, etc. If you don't believe me you can check my posts on him from several years ago. I can't say really the way he handled the situation really surprised me but I will say Uncle Dennis is the one thing that took me off guard. I went into the assumption last summer that Kawhi was this quiet re ed guy but at least he was low maintenance and that the Spurs really didn't have to deal with any drama when handling him. Then suddenly I hear about this Uncle Dennis character who turns out to be the stereotypical uncle that we all have in our families.

    So I would say everything about Uncle Dennis surprised me. This guy was ruthless and determined to use his nephew as a cash cow for his own personal dreams. He waged war on the most successful sports franchise in the last 20 years and destroyed their reputation and foundation. If Kawhi is healthy and goes to the Lakers then unfortunately uncle Dennis won the war and will reap all the benefits. That to me is the toughest pill to swallow that the Spurs lost to this crooked bas . I'm not a fan of Trump but I wish the Spurs had the Trump mentality when handling this POS and Kawhi and went all out to trash them 24/7.

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    the fact that he didn't pan out to be the franchise player he was supposed to be for the spurs. the successor to duncan which we all saw in kawhi. fools gold is what he is. so damn disappointing to say the least. i don't wish the worst for kawhi but i don't wish the best either. that dude.

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    How much he wanted out of SA after 7 years. This board seems inclined to believe in the 'evil Uncle' narrative, but none of this happens without Leonard being an active and willing participant.

    Call it MB's Razor. The most boring explanation is the right one. Leonard wanted out and his uncle and agent in their bumbling way made it happen.

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    Pop, early on, showed great confidence in K, to go get him from Indiana, handed him the role of franchise player which I think surprised K, then K got a ring and FMVP, which thrilled Pop greatly, and K still felt no desire, no allegiance to stay in SA.

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    i’m surprised how much money kawhi’s family was willing to sacrifice for the hopes of gaining relatively marginally more money

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