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    Not even Top 20 imho.

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    Top 40 at best.

    This had an interview today and espn knew he was so irrelevant they put him up in a 1am interview live


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    Spursfan "Derozan is a top 12 player"
    My Team: San Antonio Spurs
    So you're talking about yourself?

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    Kawhi quitteded.

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    Top 40 at best.

    This had an interview today and espn knew he was so irrelevant they put him up in a 1am interview live


    Not in order but off the top of my head. That’s 25.

    Curry
    Durant
    Lebron
    Davis
    Harden
    CP3
    Kawhi
    Beal
    Westbrook
    Lowry
    Lillard
    Wall
    Butler
    Mitc
    Embiid
    Kyrie
    Simmons
    Klay
    Kemba
    Giannis
    Tobias
    Tatum
    Oladipo
    Paul George
    CJ Mccollum


    The problem with Demar is that his stock plummets in the postseason, and it’s not for the lack of effort. He’s just not skilled enough to overcome defensive traps and extra defenders sent his way.

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    Not in order but off the top of my head. That’s 25.


    The problem with Demar is that his stock plummets in the postseason, and it’s not for the lack of effort. He’s just not skilled enough to overcome defensive traps and extra defenders sent his way.
    He's never played with a sharpshooter like Mills though.

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    right about pizzagate Blake's Avatar
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    Which spursfan said that?

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    Which spursfan said that?
    TIMVP

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    right about pizzagate Blake's Avatar
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    Interesting. Which thread?

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    right about pizzagate Blake's Avatar
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    -Honestly, after I read the total package of today’s big trade, my word for word reaction was:


    -After letting the trade digest a bit, I still don’t love it but I’m starting to understand the thinking behind it.

    -Firstly, sad to see Danny Green go. He goes down as one of my favorite Spurs of all-time. He came out of nowhere to give the Spurs more than a half decade worth of championship-caliber starting shooting guard play. I’m proud of the way he bounced back from laying an egg in the 2012 playoffs by putting together a couple of the greatest shooting postseason runs this league has ever seen. Along the way, he became an elite defender, a great teammate and a player who kept a positive, wins-focused at ude no matter what. Thanks, Danny. Well done, man.

    -I’m not ready to take a deep dive into Kawhi Leonard’s Spurs legacy. (It still hurts ) On one hand, the ride was damn fun while it lasted. On the other hand, it’s difficult to forgive Nephew for how things ended. I’m sure the Spurs deserve some blame but to sabotage your trade value by demanding a trade to the archrival Los Angeles Lakers … I mean, I can’t imagine a more villainous ending to what appeared even a year ago to be a perfect marriage between superstar and franchise.

    -Let us take a moment to realize that not everyone is built like David Robinson and Tim Duncan. Those two are true legends. It takes more than just supreme basketball talent to carry a small market team to championship-relevancy year after year. Gentlemen, Spurs fans are forever grateful.

    -Considering the trash offers the Spurs were reportedly getting for Nephew, you can’t be too unhappy with DeMar DeRozan. He’s much better than anyone the Lakers, Clippers or 76ers were offering. He has three years left on his contract and he’s due $27,739,975 per season, with the last season a player-option. While there’s some risk because he could decline physically during that time (he’s turning 29 next month), as it stands he should be worth that amount of money.

    -Offensively, DeRozan is elite. Last season, his offensive real plus-minus was +3.42, which ranked 15th in the NBA. His ORPM has been consistently very good the last three seasons. He can create shots for himself in the halfcourt; DeRozan is very capable from all depths inside the three-point line. He has averaged more than 23 points per game for three-straight seasons. Last year, he took a big step forward playmaking-wise. He shattered his career-high by averaging 5.2 assists and was one of the top swingmen in the league in terms of assist-to-turnover ratio. And perhaps best of all, DeRozan is great at getting to the free throw line. He has averaged at least ten attempts per 100 possessions the last five seasons and knocks them down at a nearly 83% clip.

    -While a top 20 player in the league on offense, DeRozan isn’t as good as a 100% healthy
    Nephew on the offensive end. I should make that clear. But speaking of health, that brings me to another positive DeRozan brings to the table: durability. DeRozan has been extremely reliable; his only extended absence in his career was a groin injury back in 2014. He has played 675 of 722 (93.5%) possible regular season games in his career. Nephew, on the other hand, has played in 407 of 558 (72.9%).

    -Where DeRozan has been a liability his entire career is on the defensive end. He’s been really bad on that end – and that’s probably putting it kindly. DeRozan’s defensive real plus-minus was a ghastly -1.76 … and that was actually an improvement over his previous campaigns. He has athleticism and length but he’s never been able to be even an adequate defender.

    -Fit-wise, I’m less than enthralled. For all of DeRozan’s talents on offense, he’s a poor three-point shooter (28.9% for his career). That’s a rather huge flaw considering he’ll be playing next to the longball-limited Dejounte Murray while occupying the same space LaMarcus Aldridge likes to operate in. Spacing is going to be an issue. A big issue.

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    yeah I don't see "top 12" anywhere in this post.

    Did timvp hurt your feelings or something?

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    Not in order but off the top of my head. That’s 25.

    Curry
    Durant
    Lebron
    Davis
    Harden
    CP3
    Kawhi
    Beal
    Westbrook
    Lowry
    Lillard
    Wall
    Butler
    Mitc
    Embiid
    Kyrie
    Simmons
    Klay
    Kemba
    Giannis
    Tobias
    Tatum
    Oladipo
    Paul George
    CJ Mccollum


    The problem with Demar is that his stock plummets in the postseason, and it’s not for the lack of effort. He’s just not skilled enough to overcome defensive traps and extra defenders sent his way.
    I'm far from a DeRozan fan, but lol at putting a role player like Tobias Harris ahead of him.

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    Not in order but off the top of my head. That’s 25.

    Curry
    Durant
    Lebron
    Davis
    Harden
    CP3
    Kawhi
    Beal
    Westbrook
    Lowry
    Lillard
    Wall
    Butler
    Mitc
    Embiid
    Kyrie
    Simmons
    Klay
    Kemba
    Giannis
    Tobias
    Tatum
    Oladipo
    Paul George
    CJ Mccollum


    The problem with Demar is that his stock plummets in the postseason, and it’s not for the lack of effort. He’s just not skilled enough to overcome defensive traps and extra defenders sent his way.
    Not a fan of Derozan but it's clear you have your biases by putting Tobias ahead of him. Also as a Charlotte resident I have seen a lot of Kemba Walker's games and I can say he's not better than Derozan. Kemba on a good team would be a third option at best.

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    Klaw apalisoc_9's Avatar
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    yeah I don't see "top 12" anywhere in this post.

    Did timvp hurt your feelings or something?
    Look again .

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    I'm far from a DeRozan fan, but lol at putting a role player like Tobias Harris ahead of him.
    it doesnt even have to be tobais harris.

    Even tobias funke is better than derozan.

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    Then off. He called him top 12. Obviously the guy hasnt watched bball since hes been busy.

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    Then off. He called him top 12.
    Neh

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    yeah I don't see "top 12" anywhere in this post.

    Did timvp hurt your feelings or something?
    He didn’t even call him a top 20 player tbh. He called him a top 20 offensive player.

    nothing to see here, Pinoy Maurader throwing at the wall per par

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    He thinks hes top 12 level. Look again.

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    it doesnt even have to be tobais harris.

    Even tobias funke is better than derozan.
    So, if the Spurs win 50+ games this season it will all be thanks to Pop's master coaching, right?

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    So, if the Spurs win 50+ games this season it will all be thanks to Pop's master coaching, right?
    Lamarsha is their best player. Not even close.

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    Lamarsha dragged that barely 40 win team to 47 wins. He deserves ton of credit last year.

    Kawhi also dragged that same 47 wij team to 67 win team.

    Not even close.

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    Not in order but off the top of my head. That’s 25.

    Curry
    Durant
    Lebron
    Davis
    Harden
    CP3
    Kawhi
    Beal
    Westbrook
    Lowry
    Lillard
    Wall
    Butler
    Mitc
    Embiid
    Kyrie
    Simmons
    Klay
    Kemba
    Giannis
    Tobias
    Tatum
    Oladipo
    Paul George
    CJ Mccollum


    The problem with Demar is that his stock plummets in the postseason, and it’s not for the lack of effort. He’s just not skilled enough to overcome defensive traps and extra defenders sent his way.
    some of these are laughable. didnt simmons score 1 point in a playoff game?

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    Lamarsha dragged that barely 40 win team to 47 wins. He deserves ton of credit last year.

    Kawhi also dragged that same 47 wij team to 67 win team.

    Not even close.
    If they go from 47 wins to 50+, it will be because LA got even better?

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