Not wanting to troll.
I know the Spurs have won 5 les and had a long string of 50+ wins success and consecutive playoff appearances.
That said, do you feel like the Spurs should have won more les? Duncan IMHO has been the best player since Jordan, and maybe I'm a bit biased, but I've always felt like the organization could have done more to help him. Parker and Manu were great players and all stars at times, but Duncan never really had a solid partner in the mold of a Scotty puppet or Kobe Bryant.
All the time. Timmy should've retired with at least 7 or 8 rings imo. People forget that luck comes into play sometimes though. And the Spurs were on the end of the stick a couple of times.
Nope. A small market team that wins 5 'ships in 15 years has overachieved.
I feel that the spurs should have a total of 7... Should of chippid in 06' and 13' respectively....
Tough to say. We had some bad luck to be sure, but we also had some great luck. Horry losing his mind in game 5 in '05, the ridiculously fortunate hip check in '07, and AC issue leading to LeCramps in '14 come to mind.
Yes and no. Spurs had incredible success but as greedy fans we always want more. The Spurs had some bad breaks (Fisher, Manu foul) and no calls (Barry), which are all too well known. Would've loved a 3peat to shut up the haters. TD's greatness is indisputable.
06 at the time really bothered me. The Spurs had that game won. But at the same time, they blew it on the court. You have to give Dallas credit.
Nope. 5 rings. Small franchise.
eh. we had some unlucky breaks... ray allen shot, 0.4, manu fouling dirk. but we also lucked out with dirk getting hurt in 03, horry hipcheck, and horry going bonkers against detroit in game 5
id say we did about right
5 but with a repeat woulda been sweet
Yes, but I'm a homer. I think they should win every year.
Somewhat. I feel like the spurs should have 7 and have won back to back chips. As others have stated, for a small franchise they did more than what you could hope for. At the end of the day i'm still proud of this franchise no matter what
Yes, every time I see Manure Ginose.
Hmm,
I think maybe they could have gotten one more with some breaks, of course breaks go both ways. but underachieved- no. You never know. Win in 06- do they win in 07?
While very talented, they have never had teams with multiple in their prime greats. The closest was 05, but that team struggled against a Piston team that had 3 top 10 picks in their prime.
Kidd was #2, Kenyon was #1, and Kittles was #8 for the 2003 Nets series. None of them were over the hill at the time.
Agreed...they had close misses but five rings got, so it's aight.
People are conflating fortunate with luck. Fortune was having a foreign superstar (a country "owning" another is archaic; the reality is, he grew up in a different culture, outside the continental U.S.) and 2 foreign stars who didn't care about the typical things most homegrown ones do. Luck or in their case, bad luck, is all the instances that get mentioned ad nauseam, plus others that don't.
The difference is, the former were fatal (technically, Ginobili's foul on Nowitzki wasn't, but the series was being played on the Mavericks' terms, which meant more had to go right for the Spurs to win and another 5 minutes only made that more unlikely), while the latter weren't.
just wish the spurs had moved on from tp years ago. spurs could've had someone much more productive, efficient, and capable of playing defense.
No way...Spurs had some tough breaks, but that is bound to happen when you are playing for championships for nearly two decades. Most teams would give up everything just to have a run of success that resembled the Spurs.
Yes, Duncan was a generational talent. But we have seen generation talents get truly wasted before. Karl Malone, John Stockton, Charles Barkley, Steve Nash, Vince Carter, Tracy McGrady...the list goes on and on for generational talents who didn't win a single ring, let alone five. Others like Dirk, Pierce, and Garnett were lucky to squeeze one ring onto their resume. Spurs weren't perfect, but you can't say they didn't take advantage of their #1 pick.
The Spurs had great fortune in some years (Dirk going down in '03, Mavericks losing to Warriors in '07, Horry's hip check) and had bad fortune in others (0.4, Manu's foul, Ray Allen's three, getting Zaza'd, etc.)
That's why the games are played, and what makes winning a championship so damn sweet. It's never a guarantee, even for teams like the Warriors who, invincible as they seem, were on the ropes against Houston and would've gotten knocked out if the Rockets hadn't gone on a monumental choking spree from three.
Duncan was great, but he also benefitted from great coaching, a good system that has morphed over the years, and having Hall of Fame teammates surrounding him. Sure, he never had a Pippen to his Jordan or a Kobe to his Shaq...but Tony and Manu were miracle finds, and he also had the likes of David Robinson, Michael Finley, Robert Horry, Steve Kerr, Bruce Bowen, and Stupid Nephew lining up next to him.
Jordan is hard to beat with his double three-peat, but 5 in 15 is nothing to shake a stick at, especially if you consider that the Spurs had several legitimate chances to match his 6.
Last edited by Dex; 09-19-2018 at 06:27 PM.
Nah, after '14 I feel fulfilled with the Duncan era. Not sure how you can really blame PATFO for roster construction.
They drafted at least two and probably three future HOFs, went hard after Kidd and damn near got him (I was and am glad they didn't); got Jeff for basically free; made savvy moves to acquire perfect veteran role players who made big contributions to les like Elie, Kerr, Speedy, Bruce, Horry, Findog, and Diaw 2.0. All while based in a small market players don't desire to live in.
Sure they went a little overboard with draft and stash in the later years and kept trash like Bonner way too long, but all in all they killed it.
The only other team to match the Spurs were the Lackers. So if the Spurs underachieved then what does that say about other teams.
2012 FOR SURE. Losing to the Thunder felt as bad losing to the Lakers back in the day. Pretty sure we blew them out for most of that season and the the first two games of the series only to lose 4 straight. That one hurt.
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