Antonio hasn't done bad for himself, if you want to limit it to the Pop era. And of course there's Rodman.
There are quite a few outisde of your 12-year range (John Paxson, Mychel Thompson)
I've believed for a long time that Coach Pop get's the most out of his players while they are Spurs. I can't really think of any former Spur that was more successful once he moved on. I don't think DA was any better in Portland or that Rod Strickland was much better (yes I know he didn't play for Pop) once he left. I do believe that Stephen Jackson may eventually be the exception but I'm sure curious as to what all of you think. Has any former Spur (from the last 12 years) really made much of an impact once they left SA.
Antonio hasn't done bad for himself, if you want to limit it to the Pop era. And of course there's Rodman.
There are quite a few outisde of your 12-year range (John Paxson, Mychel Thompson)
Raja Bell has done a lot better for himself since leaving the Spurs, but Pop laid down that foundation.
How far back are we going? John Paxson started for the Bulls and got rings for their entire first three-peat.
Antonio Daniels springs to mind obviously S-Jax as well.
S-Jax (if you look at last 6-7 yrs)
Most successful Spurs post-Spurs:
Dennis Rodman - went on to win NBA championships
Stephen Jackson - Currently starting on a championship contender. Verdict not out.
2nd tier:
Antonio Daniels - went on the play crucial roles on non-championship contenders.
Raja Bell - See above. Like Daniels, Pop's influence laid the groundwork.
3rd tier:
Speedy Claxton - Post Spurs his role on a non-contender has been limited by injuries
4th tier:
Derek Anderson - Went on to play for a losing team, and he hasn't learned much from Pop - his D is still weak.
"Speedy."
wow, you must be joking? Speedy did little at lottery GSW, and now is fighting for bottom-dwelling Hornets minutes with rookie Chris Paul.
One can't blame Speedy for leaving the Spurs for a chance to start after his flash-in-the-pan heroics in the 03 Playoffs, but it sure looks like his NBA career, 4 years of it now, and development is going to be as serviceable backup PG rather than starting PG. ... if he stays healthy
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What about Danny Ferry and Mike Brown?
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Great point though...
I wasn't going to include people who went into management positions with other teams - that would also include AJ, Kevin Willis, Terry Porter, and Mario Elie who even though they continued as players were essentially doing so to get into management/coaching. It seems like comparing apples and oranges. In a sense, they've all done well by gaining enough respect to move up into coaching or management positions after their tenure with the Spurs. Same goes for Steve Kerr.
Come to think of it, I think that says a lot about the Spurs that so many of them go on to leadership positions with other teams after their time with the Spurs.
Great post. I think all the players and front office folks are a reflection of the kind of organization we have here in SA. I credit Pop, RC and Peter Holt.
Probably should include George Karl too.
That is exactly my point. How does Pop manage to get so much out these players who don't seem to do as well once they move on. I'm sure having an NBA All Star Forward has something to do with it but coaching must be at least as important. I am a big Stephen Jackson fan but I often wonder if he will ever realize his full potential in another organization (even one as good as the Pacers). The same goes for Derek Anderson and Speedy. Could they have had better careers if they had managed to stay with the Spurs (which they all could have).
How about Coby Dietrick? He gets to be feted as a former Spur all over town and he lounges around at his Relax the Back store or whatever with a big ass dog all day long.
I think Hedo would fall under the 3rd or 4th tier - went on to a starting/significant role on a mediocre team, with mediocre success integrating the Pop basics on D.
YEAR TEAM G GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PPG
02-03 SAS 30 0 15.7 .462 .000 .684 .7 1.1 1.9 2.5 .73 .23 1.17 5.8
03-04 GSW 60 29 26.6 .427 .182 .813 .6 2.0 2.6 4.5 1.62 .15 1.70 10.6
04-05 GSW 46 44 32.6 .431 .192 .761 .7 2.6 3.3 6.2 1.89 .13 2.00 13.1
And watch what's gonna happen when he gets traded this season or the next to a starting PG spot somewhere.
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Stephen Jackson by far. The guys been a 19/5/3 player the past 2 years.
WTF is that? Jaren Jackson?
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