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Unfortunately, neither is more than likely happening anytime soon. Sure, Pop might retire from coaching in 2 years, but he'll probably maintain some level of control and Buford is still young enough to conceivably go another 5-10 years.
Since they've repeatedly proven that they're too stuck in their ways to change, I now hope they lose as much as possible. Grinding out a mid-high 40 win season and squeaking into the playoffs will only lead to more of the same. They'll talk up improved health/growth from young players, as well as continuity.
The only possible avenue to meaningful change, is if the bottom falls out. There's been signs the past 4 seasons, but they always managed to stave it off, thanks to a combination of MVP caliber play, a stifling defense and "corporate knowledge". Suffice it to say, none exist any longer and the chasm between modern basketball and the archaic brand they play only continues to widen by the season.
What I want, is unmitigated disaster and not the kind that can be explained away by one or more of their best players suffering a significant injury. Maybe then they'll have the intestinal for ude to confront the mess they've made and begin to re-evaluate everything.
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Wow, you're really a sad person. Please change your team affiliation. You are no Spurs fan.
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Every team in the NBA is a treadmill team until they luck into a superstar. Most teams remain treadmill teams even after getting that superstar.
Not exactly a hot take, tbh.
HOU sacrificed all/any young talent and draft picks and cap space for a one year shot and are back to normal. BOS even looks disjointed and never reached a finals yet despite all the praise (which is deserved). PHI got leap frogged by BOS/MIL/TOR already and their once promising window might never even materialize.
Being a playoff team is no joke and should be strived for. SA, despite having more recent success (10 years, 5 years) still has draft picks, a very reasonable cap situation and some pretty good young talent for the amount of winning they have done. They are doing something that really no team has done well which is field a compe ive team that is also rebuilding.
My God how many threads with people complaining about the same stuff do we need lol
I knew somebody would say this, but the difference between them and many others is, 1) They literally traded into being a treadmill team, 2) The process to getting off of it, is all wrong. From where they're likely to pick in the next few years to the current roster and style of play. It's completely tone deaf. And the young talent they do have, I don't even trust them to develop it in a modern way.
Ideally, I'd like to see the two senile fools who've ran them into the ground retire in short order, but that's not happening.
I wonder how many here have a few blood spatters on their rugs from failed wrist slits.
OP must only like or pretend to like or be a fan of ONE team. The Spurs....
I guess he doesn’t like an NFL, MLB, or any other sports franchise....
He’s just a fanatic of one team? Cry over spilt milk?
People already missing OP's point. So many pointless FA signings and re-signings that give you a glimpse of Pop and RC's approach post Duncan/Kawhi era.
The fact that they brought back Beli, Forbes, and Bertans with Patty already on the team...almost a certainty that Pop/RC asked for Poetl instead of Siakam or OG...just absolutely non-sensical moves even when put in a tough situation by Kawhi/Dennis.
The fact that they were able to assemble a roster devoid of any semblance of nba-level athleticism outside of Derozan is actually impressive. Pop's garbage rotations going back about 3 years now doesn't help either, but i'm sure posters will point out Lonnie being able to help in that department in 2 years lol.
But SPAM, Pop/RC have earned the benefit of the doubt, blah blah, etc.....
I get it...locals don't want to watch a watch completely tanking team even if that's the only reason the franchise was able to achieve the success it had for the last 20 years.
I'm a Raiders fan, arguably the worst NFL franchise of the last 15 years. And I feel significantly better about the Raiders' future prospects than I do about the Spurs tbh...at least they'll probably have a chance at a championship within the next 5-10 seasons.
What about 2014 got?
The fear of not getting a superstar doesn't concern me, it's their complete ignorance of the direction of the league that concerns me..
All the top teams are looking for 3-point shooting, length and athleticism, while the Spurs are relying on mid-range Js and still playing guys like Belinelli and Mills together
Pop is getting close to what Phil Jackson became with the Knicks, the difference is that nobody is paying attention to SA..
Are you on RaidersTalk tho? You spend majority of your life talking about your ty Raiders??
Doubt it...
You should know right now how it feels to truly suck...like do you look forward more to watch your Raiders or Spurs?? There’s a reason for that tbh...it’s why we’re considered spoiled..
And don’t lie and say Raiders...
I don't spend the majority of my life on the Spurs nor the Raiders tbh....
But yeah definitely on me that I thought this team wouldn't absolutely be ed for the next 10 years after watching the first 6-8 games. I've fully accepted that realization now and it will probably improve my viewing experience from here on out tbh
I don't spend the majority of my life on the Spurs nor the Raiders tbh....
But yeah definitely on me that I thought this team wouldn't absolutely be ed for the next 10 years after watching the first 6-8 games. I've fully accepted that realization now and it will probably improve my viewing experience from here on out tbh
The point I’m making is the “success” of the Spurs is the reason you’re on ST and probably care more about the Spurs than your Raiders..
Your Raiders have sucked so bad for so long you’re numb to it, and anything some what positive or hyped you get false optimism..,
Yet for some reason you believe in them Raiders??
Another emo thread tbqh
Yes Spurs suck and will struggle to make the playoffs only to lose in 5 games tops
Deal w it like a grown man
Pussy
Last edited by hater; 11-13-2018 at 07:14 PM.
Not by choice.
The bigger issue is neither Tim Duncan nor David Robinson play basketball for a living.
If they became a treadmill team following the Nephew trade, this "process" you're talking about is all of 12 games in.
Don't think we know where they will be picking the next few years 12 games into the treadmill, tbh.
The vast majority of the roster was put together prior to what you consider becoming a treadmill team.
If you have the two top midrange shooters in the league, there are only so many ways you can play it, tbh. All those ways involve midrange jumpers. Steve Kerr, Brad Stevens, Mike Bud or any other basketball coach in the world couldn't change that.
Yes, because Nephew arrived as a ready-made player.
The amount of spoilage is overwhelming. Woah.
This is really sad to hear posters going full in on cheering against their team. Pop and Rc leaving doesn't mean anything other than tradition and culture leaving. What's next after that? I'm pretty sure no one wants to hire anyone on this board. People dont realize that free agents just do not want to come here. It was a running joke until we won with our homegrown stars but it still rings true, the agents we signed are the best we could do. You want to dump a winning culture to cater towards young unproven probably immature stars? Sounds like every other franchise. O wait, you sound like every other typical fan except their teams usually are winning less than the Spurs. In 1996 draft, the concensus #2 pick was Keith Van Horn. Keith Van Horn, yes it's all on Pop and RC! Lol. Top ranked GM, GOAT labeled coach head of USA basketball.
Actually, I think this could easily be a top 3/5 team (in the regular season) with just some minor tweaks. Getting a couple young, atheltic 6'8" guys would make a World of difference.
A rotation of, for example:
Murray, DeRozan, Anunoby, Bertans, Aldridge
White, Walker, Jaylen Brown, Gay, Gasol
Is easily a top 5 team in the NBA right now (again, only regular season).
With just two additions (and a lot of fat trimming) you are already adressing a bunch of weakness, like defense, athleticism, speed, pace, etc.
And I know those guys there are pipe dreams (or not, who knows if we couldn't have had OG if we asked) but it doesn't have to be just those players. Any semblance of 3 and D guys would produce a similar improvement.
The thing is, I no longer trust PATFO to make the moves they are suppossed to make.
TD21 Get back on your meds or join the Raptors/KY fan board.
Underrated poster
Him and the pussy, "Hoops Czar," are the two most made fans ever. LOL
98% of the NBA is a ing "treadmill" team since the dynasty resides in Golden State. Y'all two need to find another hobby or team to about.
Teams have had elite, HOF talent and done absolutely nothing of merit with it(Oklahoma City, early 2000's Sacramento & Phoenix, etc.), yet Pop and RC have created a culture and legacy that few can touch
Yes, they have mad mistakes but the current situation was forced upon them by "Nephew." Pretty sure a line up with a healthy Murrary, Walker, Leonard, Green and maybe Anderson boosts this team up the standings.
The reality is they had to eat a sandwich (no offense to DeMar, he is a good player) and now are going to have adjust short and long - term. But, I guess made fans like TD21 (when he isn't constantly pissing and moaning he's a solid poster) and Hoop Czar will whine and complain through every good or bad decision.
While, also giving Pop and R.C. as little credit as possible.
Last edited by J_Paco; 11-13-2018 at 07:52 PM.
You were told this 5 years ago by a wise poster yet, you chose to turn a blind eye. You called them a GOAT FO when the only thing GOAT about this FO was choosing Tim Duncan over Keith Van Horn ( not a difficult decision unless your totally incapacitated and making decisions through a series of body twitches and wet farts). Tony Parker was all Sam Presti and before you say b-b-but Ginobili, the Spurs passed over him in the 1st round and even traded away the pick. So much for knowing something that nobody else did. They got inherently lucky.The fear of not getting a superstar doesn't concern me, it's their complete ignorance of the direction of the league that concerns me..
All the top teams are looking for 3-point shooting, length and athleticism, while the Spurs are relying on mid-range Js and still playing guys like Belinelli and Mills together
Pop is getting close to what Phil Jackson became with the Knicks, the difference is that nobody is paying attention to SA..
RC Buford even mentioned that he didn't think Luis Scola's skills tanslated well to the NBA though that could have been a cheap way of saying we don't want to pay the buyout. That was after trading him to Houston for a player who wanted out of the NBA ( Vassilis Spanoulis) and a draft picked that turned out be De Colo.. Should have seen the Mujiri ether coming from a mile away.
Pop is basically Jerry Sloan at this point in his career. He's too old and stuck in his ways to make the nessessary changes to compete at a high level in today's NBA. It makes it even worse when that coach who's to old and past his prime is also the head of basketball operations.
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