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Made this comment two years ago in spurstalk and everyone threw a tantrum.
Anyway, enjoy the watch.
He is an Arse, thats for sure.
no cause Wenger never won anything
We've been saying this for years, tbh. The media, like always, years late to the party.
I thought he was past his prime then, now that every NBA has involved 3pt shooting in their offenses he's even more washed up now. How can you rank so bad in 3PA/game with this roster full of pure shooters? Smh
Good call breh.
Spurs take efficient shots not threes for the sake of shooting threes. Pop still the best coach in bball easily. Without elite talent there's only so much you can do. Lets take the Bucks for example, they played the awful Wizards without Giannis and lost quite handily, you put Giannis in there and the shooters all of a sudden are wide open and your system seems to work. In Spurs case, replace Depression with Giannis and you instantly go to the WCF because you have more space to launch more threes and more efficient ones. Bud looks like a genius but if you take one guy out he is just a good coach.
Lol no.
The Bucks have the exact same roster (plus Lopez) as last year. For some reason they're the best team in the league now... maybe, idk, the hiring on Budenholzer took them from pretender to contender? He's an elite coach who overachieves with what he has. The 2015 Hawks were an example of that.
Pop isn't overachieving with what he has. He's a Nate McMillan "Point A to Point B" type coach at this point. No one called Nate a great coach because he made the playoffs with Aldridge and scrubs. For some reason most of you think what Pop is doing is incredible. It's really not. He'll win a little under 50 games this season with a decent roster consisting of arguably two all stars and great shooters and then will get destroyed in the first round for the third consecutive year. Not exactly earth shattering stuff.
Arsene Wenger was always good enough to make a Top 4 side, just like Pop is good enough to make a 7/8th seed. Both were left to live on their past success because the superstars they had were gone. Wenger left Arsenal, but it happened when he wanted it and his own decision. That's the only way Pop will leave San Antonio as well. Both were just paycheck collectors after the people that were carrying them left.
No, he’s Alex Ferguson, it’s obvious for a number of reasons
lol no back at you, Bucks had the worst coach in the league by far, Jason freaking Kidd, their roster is pretty good with an MVP calliber player. Atlanta had better roster than this Spurs roster. A younger Al Horford that we see how important he is for the Celtics, younger Milsap, younger elite shooter K.Korver, who's our elite shooter? Davis B? Not in the same stratosfere imo. Both Horford and Milsap can also play great defense. Pop has to deal with a zero experience back court. No one said that Bud is not very good coach but lets not overeact with what he has achieved with the Bucks, it was bound to happen. I still take Pop over Bud. If you put Pop with the Bucks he will accomplish the same result and they might be even more favourites to get out of the East because Pop has more experience in the playoffs. We disagree
Well TGY,you're both kinda right and wrong at the same time.
As someone who has watched every Bucks game for the past 3 seasons i can reassure you,that,yes,Budenholzer made that team contenders,not even from pretenders,but from 1st round exits year after year..
But you're wrong in thinking he had some magic wand and transformed that franchise and is currently overachieving.
What Bud did in the summer and game after game so far this season is construct a team that fully utilizes his Top 5 Superstar while getting 110% from his role players..
Sounds familiar? Well he is Pop's greatest disciple after all..
What did Pop do when he had a Top5 Superstar (Leonard)? As ugly as it was he constructed the whole gameplan around his strengths and with what he had he made a legitimate contender.
Nowadays he doesn't have the talent to construct a contender.So he does whatever he can to tweak and experiment to have the Spurs in position for a playoff's run.
As for the question in hand from the OP.
The equivalent for an NBA WORLD Championship is not the Premier League.It's the Champion's League.
You wanna know how many of those Wenger won? The astounding,mind blowing number of ZERO.
The only thing Arsene can be compared to Pop is longevity.
Not coaching style,not success,not cultural impact.Longevity and loyalty to a franchise.That's it.
Lol soccer
He's not Bill Belicek after all.
Invincibles.
That Arsenal team drew12 times that year. The also crashed out of the league cups by United and Middlesbrough and lost to Chelsea in Champions league quarter finals.
Never heard of him.
Still won the league, which is the point. And draws. Lol. It's ing soccer.
anyone with 10+K posts is a comeplete idiot and this thread is an good example of that.
I don't watch doublehandjob ball tbh. Do you have a different comparison perhaps?
one is popa , the other is wenger the wanker...same same?
Honestly some Spurs fans on here are just fans. And politically I disagree with Pop on a lot of things but if you can't respect him as a coach or as a human then that's a character flaw on your behalf. Are there younger hungrier coaches out there who are also very good at what they do? Yeah, Brad Stevens is the obviously example but he's not the only one. The guy won his last championship at what 65 years old? And the whole time in between 2007 and 2014 the same fans would talk about him being washed up and no longer a top tier coach or a guy who could coach a championship team. Ya'll on the Patty Mills contract (who is having a better season on the court this year than last year,) but who has also been one of those best bench players in the NBA and one of the leaders on the team. Is it a great deal he's on? No, but it isn't some gross overpay ya'll make it out to be. Character does matter and it has a lot to do with the locker room environment and at ude the players have. Ya'll turn on star players who are new to the team and having a hard time fitting in at times after one bad month or so.
This is an obvious retooling team that started off bad but has gotten somewhat better since and is now dealing with some ups and downs. The team lost all of their good defenders, but on the flip side we have a lot of young talent getting big playing time (Derrick White, Jakob Poeltl, Davis Bertans, Bryn Forbes etc.). All 4 of those guy's stocks have gone up this year, some of them have gone way up. If you can't see the player development and the energy Pop coaches with then you're the disconnected one not the front office.
The Pau Gasol contract is bad. However, he did the team a favor so we could go after Chris Paul. CP3 made his decisions (which might long term end up being the best for this team) and so we did Gasol a solid because when you're a small market team and players do right by you sometimes you have to do right by them. That's how you build a good reputation that's how you get all stars like LMA to want to join your team. But you know some of ya'll are quick to turn on LaMarcus Aldridge too. Plus I think we tried to move Gasol but at this point we couldn't get a return worth our while.
Yes the front office isn't perfect and yes there are some good basketball minds on this board, but some of ya'll who on the front office for every little stupid thing and really think you can do better...give me a break. The negativity is ridiculous, it's not like we're losing to teams we are clearly heads down better than on a daily basis. Teams like Sacramento and Portland have talent and can play good ball and if we're missing one of our best players the odds are we're not going to be the better team that night. Why be a fan of a team when all you're going to do is be negative and on the players and the front office?
About done with my rant, but some of ya'll just want change without considering the consequences. Dante Cunningham isn't a good player, we've established that (although some nights he's playable. When the team is healthy he usually doesn't play much anyways.) But the odds are he's a harder worker and a better guy in the locker room than the fringe trash player you want the team to sign. Omri Casspi hasn't been the most liked by teammates in the past and he doesn't play a lick of defense yet some of ya'll think the front office is inept for not signing him. Corey Brewer is a fringe rotation player on the backside of his career who's never stuck but we're dumb for not signing him too right? The difference between him and Pon is probably very little and Pon knows how to go about things the right way he shows up early to practice and stays late, he puts in the work and is a pro's pro and accepts his role even if it means little minutes.
LA is a big market team that requires superstars for the organization to have any success. Without Kobe/LeBron type players that team is absolute . They have plenty of depth and young talent and it doesn’t mean
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