Reply With QuoteWe're soft because we have a back to back MVP on our team, and we refuse to sign a player who specializes in the foot dribble?????
Uh, yeah.....
This crap has dragged on long enough.
One side needs to blink.
After the Spurs won it all, Jackson's comments indicated that he really wanted to be a star. His d@mn agent should stop playing hard ball.
This is p1ss.
We're back to being soft.
We're soft because we have a back to back MVP on our team, and we refuse to sign a player who specializes in the foot dribble?????
Uh, yeah.....
Propose a contract to Stephen including a clause that makes him drop his agent.
I think not giving in to Jax agents demands shows that the Spurs are not soft.
Nah gah happen. His agent's contract demands and refusal to return calls have set the stage for young Stephen's departure from SA. IIRC, the Spurs have 12 players under contract, and are prepeared to go to war with this group. The only way I could see SJax coming back would be for him to actually fire his agent, who is also the agent of his best bud Stephon Marbury. His agent is not known for negotiating. He puts himself and his client in what he perceives as a position of strength, then drops his demands on the team. If they are not met, his client plays for a new team. Ask Utah if you don't believe me.
pseudofan, don't you have some dishes to wash or some guy's lap to put your head on?
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Jackson is screwing himself by letting his agent call all the shots.
He's hardly a proven commodity based on one season of success as a starter. Jack should've humbly accepted the Spurs offer. San Antonio gave him an opportunity to show what he could do.
I feel bad for Jack, he will probably end up going to a team for the near minimum if his agent keeps playing hardball.
Jack didn't make this team "hard" though he did make some clutch shots. Ultimately though, he's not too difficult to replace. I wonder if the Spurs would even take Fegan's calls at this point. Dan won't even get another team to match the Spurs' original offer let alone come close to his ridiculous demands.
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Chimp, Jack came through in the clutch whereas old Spurs teams would get scared and falter.
He certainly helped to make the Spurs harder and more aggressive.
With him in the starting lineup instead of Smitty, our team had a different swagger.
How many of Jax's TOs were because the players that were supposed to get the pass were not paying attention? A lot, Jax would pass rather than shoot, and that could have improved with a training camp together with the starters. We need Jax, sign his ass!
Sorry Ghost, he's replaceable. Sorry we didn't get the guys you wanted. I suggest you apply for the Buford's job if all you're going to do is whine about his choices. Put on your application that you think every idea you've ever had = championship.
And despite him "specializing" in dribbling it off his foot, he averaged just over 1 more Turnover Per Game in the playoffs than God himself, Emanuel Ginobili.We're soft because we have a back to back MVP on our team, and we refuse to sign a player who specializes in the foot dribble?????
Does the regular season not apply?
Do the Spurs only play in the playoffs?
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The playoffs are a better way to judge how players play against the good teams. That's what matters.
But since Jackson is always specializing in dribbling off his foot, he would also have a MUCH higher TO/Pergame count than Ginobili, who everyone believes is a great dribbler (he is ).
Let' see then.
Jack TPG 02/03 Reg Season - 2.2 in 28mpg
Gino TPG 02/03 Reg Season - 1.5 in 20mpg
For a guy that specializes in doing something, he doesn't specialize in it that well does he?
So then technically, had he played the full 40 something minutes of the game....he could have theoretically turned it over almost five times per game??????
Too much for me!
lol Back to the Manu bashing???
Hilarious. Manu is ten million times the talent Stephen Jackson is.
Stephen Jackson has let dollar signs get in the way of brains.
Of course what little brains were up there in the first place
Yeah, our swagger had nothing to do with #21 throwing down double doubles, triple doubles, and damn near quad doubles.Chimp, Jack came through in the clutch whereas old Spurs teams would get scared and falter.
He certainly helped to make the Spurs harder and more aggressive.
With him in the starting lineup instead of Smitty, our team had a different swagger.
MI21, the difference (which you seem to want to ignore to further your argument) is that a lot of Manu's turnovers were because guys weren't ready for his passes, whereas a lot of SJax's were because he dribbled off of various appendages.
AHF
Jack by all acounts should have been much better than Manu last year. It was his 3rd year in the NBA and his 2nd year with the Spurs. Manu was a rookie from Argentina who was injured for half the season.
should the spurs sign a guy who wanted a starter clause in his contract:Q even though pop and company do not want him to start:Q
jackson does not make the spurs tougher. just because you were a headband does not make you tough:wacko
ferry makes the spurs less tough then stephen. ferry could get into peoples head
Unfortunately for SJax, the Spurs have replaced him with 2 capable swingmen (Hedo and Mercer) and maybe a third (Devin Brown). There are already too few minutes to go around.
For better or worse, the Spurs have passed on SJax, and most of it is SJax's fault. Get over it.
Maybe it's just my American math, but I'd say a 46.7% increase in turnovers per game over the next guy is significant.The playoffs are a better way to judge how players play against the good teams. That's what matters.
But since Jackson is always specializing in dribbling off his foot, he would also have a MUCH higher TO/Pergame count than Ginobili, who everyone believes is a great dribbler (he is ).
Let' see then.
Jack TPG 02/03 Reg Season - 2.2 in 28mpg
Gino TPG 02/03 Reg Season - 1.5 in 20mpg
For a guy that specializes in doing something, he doesn't specialize in it that well does he?
Maybe this gets lost in the conversion to the metric system though.
Oh, and Stephen Jackson averaged 2.83 TO per game in the Playoffs compared to Manu's 1.5 Maybe almost twice as many TOs than the next guy isn't significant either.
stop using facts that prove manu is the btter player scott.
Manu is neither black, nor a balla, thats why he is not better.
Manu just has to bust out the ya knows more and some thanks to god, and some bling bling and some trash talk, and be like Jack in no time.
finally t park learns about basketball, I thought you were a lost cause. Welcome to the dark side. I mean that literally by the way.
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