I just want to talk about him with spursfan.
this year he is not bad so i don't blame him a lot but two questions comes to my mind :
is there some people who thinks a team can be good with forbes playing nearly 30 minutes per game ?
why Pop is often playing a limited guy ala Matt Bonner a lot ?
The biggest problem for Bryn is defense, he is a liability on this side of the game, i think that nodody can contest that. In the other end he can bring you some shooting so for me he is a player who could be a 9-10th player on a roster with 15 minutes per game.
Just want to know what are the toughts about him and one thing i didn't talk about, could he improve and become a better player ?
Dude has peaked. He is a 3rd string point guard playing as 1st string. The fact that we've done well with him is a miracle. Ideally he should never play as long as we have both him and Mills. I'm just praying that Lonnie makes a leap next year and White and Murray are healthy all year
agree with you
Part of me wants to hate Forbes - as he makes a couple of threes and then disappears the rest of the game and gets repeatedly torched - he giveth and taketh away -
and I want to criticize Pop for over-playing him...
On the other hand - let me look at this another way;
If Pop "nurtures" Lonnie the same way and brings out the best in LW 4- then we will have a nice player on the spurs in 2 years!
Forbes for the most part has overachieved. But based on what we've seen, he is at best a backup PG.
But yet he is starting for us.
20 minutes a game should be the most for him. Being down a guard has automatically given him more playing time but next year, if he's still on the roster, he should be relegated to backup duties.
He can be serviceable as long as his shot is falling. He has a decent shot. And his drives to the basket have been getting better. that will definitely help him in the long run. But the liability on D almost makes it too much to overcome.
It just makes it worse when we have 2 similar players, Forbes/Mills. But of the 2, give me Mills just because we have seen him hit big shots before and make decent defensive plays when needed.
But with that said, Forbes has made himself money this year. As we've seen before with spurs role players (Gary neal, baynes, boban, ) someone will want to pick him up for good money when he becomes a free agent.
Yeah, Forbes sucks, man.
He's a third string shooting guard, playing as a first string point guard. He's the only starting PG in the league to be averaging 2.0 AST per game or less. , I don't think there's been one in the last 10 years. That's because he isn't a PG - that's just the letters after his name on the lineup.
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Forbes is a necessary evil to open Aldridge and Demar, especially since Demar doesn’t hit the 3. But I like it when Bertans plays 3 and Demar slides to 2 to close, that provides better defense. Maybe start Bertans instead? He has length, better defensively and rebounding, better shooter too.
I see him being a starter to begin next season until Murray rounds into form or Pop prefers to have Murray's defense off the bench. Plus the team has a winning record with him and Pop likes continuity.
Realistically, the team gets rid of Patty and puts Bryn in his spot. Won't happen though so there will be a redundancy with them still around and they may get in the way of Walker having minutes so hopefully Walker has a more productive second year. If the team stands pat next season with Murray being back and Walker improving, Bryn and Patty should just be the backup shooting guard in the same way Patty and Cojo would alter minutes for the team depending on who was more useful in certain matchups. Who am I kidding? Both of them are getting torched on defense regardless.
Could be a solution, i prefer to start Bertans than Forbes but having mills and forbes off the bench will be difficult.
He is the worst starting player in the entire league. Let's not sugarcoat it.
Forbes is another typical bench PG, like we had Hill, Cojo and other guys who you cant trust or expect to do great things.
When I say like Hill & Cojo he has the same DNA, no balls lots of hesitation, and for a 3 shooter he has a slow release, needs to be open or will pass the ball.
We are lucky to have White, he fits the PG role very well.
Fck patty mills tbh
Forbes would be fine in the 2003 Steve Kerr role. A backup to provide some offensive firepower when needed, but not depended on to do too much. It's a testament to Pop and the coaching staff that he and Mills have significant roles on a team that will likely be in the playoffs in the western conference.
Yeah ... a testament to PATFO...
i think the word “despite” is missing in there somewhere.
Not depended on too much? If it weren't for Kerr, we likely wouldn't have beaten the Mavs to advance to the Finals in '03, tbh. Forbes will NEVER and should NEVER get that type of responsibility, tbh. He should be the backup to the backup if he has to be in a playoff team.
Forbes is not the problem on this team.
He's one of them, yes. The numbers that show he's a problem are there. Show me the numbers that show he isn't a problem on this team.
from Pop, an Old Testament!
...someone who needs to join the Exodus (of bench players off the Spurs!)
*bu-dum-tssh*
Forbes playing a lot is a big problem as he Can't defend opposite pg or sg.
Bryck Forbes needs to go.
He's even cheaper next season, i want to give him one more summer to see if he has any progress body-wise which will help him defensively. He can shoot and in todays NBA you need shooters. If he comes back the same player, adios.
Well, the Spurs are a good team, so yeah. But championship team? I suppose they could if everyone else around him were better. You don't think GSW could take Thompson out and replace him with Forbes and still not be a contender?
Defense. Lets talk at length about his defense.
Which other coaches/players would feature Bryn Forbes in a starting / heavy minutes role in a Championship quest:
Red Auerbach
Bill Russell
KFC Jackson
John Wooden
Chuck Daly
Twinky Kerr
Rick Carlisle
Larry Brown
Tim Duncan
Pat Riley
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