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Misleading thread le.
But I bet it gets ing old to be yanked all the time while the coach's pet gets guaranteed, undeserved minutes.
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How much value does he have? Who would be interested? Can we use him as a trade chip to move up?
Misleading thread le.
But I bet it gets ing old to be yanked all the time while the coach's pet gets guaranteed, undeserved minutes.
He could potentially be more valuable next year when Murray plays more minutes & shores up the D. I still think he fits pretty well as a floor spacer/shooter between Poeltl and DeRozan.
Don't blame him at all. Losers like Beli and Patty were getting all you can eat minutes by the old man even when they were having a terrible series (cheered on by the Suckers of course)....
Bertans didn't play great but his leash was short as compared to those two...
He'd do great on another team that knew fully how to utilize him and didn't bench him for midgets at the first sign of trouble...
I don't blame him. He has worked hard on his defense, rebounding and to drive the lane when guarded on the perimeter. Sometimes I think he avoids open 3s just to show he can drive the lane. He can play at our weakest position small forward. And at times can lead the league in 3s.
You'd have to prove to me that you can get someone better in a trade or to let him go as he is completing his apprenticeship with the Spurs as a rotational player with known skills.
I love lamp...and Patty
Here's an idea Davis: stop making your best Bonner impression, play better and you get more minutes! Funny how that works, huh?
Just like we suspected; Pop going down with the wombat who was playing like the worst rotation player in the entire playoffs will not sit well with few guys..
He did it before, but this was by far his most brazen act of player favoritism..Mills playing the last 20 minutes of Game 7 while shooting 13%/30% is complete bull and yet White and Bertans couldn't get a second chance or longer leash?
I really like Bertans but guys he can’t defend for lol teams give the ball to whoever he’s guarding most of the time
He's got to prove he is more than just a regular season player.
Yes, he can stay on the floor against the Suns, Knicks, and Lakers of the league...but there is a reason his minutes dropped against the Nuggets. They were targeting him on defense, and he wasn't hitting shots on the other end (dropped from .429 to .273 and shot 2 less attempts a game)...that's how you find a seat on the bench.
Yeah, Bertans is unhappy he didn't get to play more point guard.
You are so damn annoying and misguided. Pop played 3 bench players, Beli, Mills, Gay. Bertans cannot play guard and was never contesting guard minutes. And Bertans was not going to outplay Gay. Nuggets played 3 bigs and Bertans couldn't guard or punish any of them. It's that simple and it has nothing to do with Beli or Mills.
1) Could have been something lost in translation. It reads as if he was talking in hypotheticals so I'm not sure it's fair to say he's unhappy with his role.
2) Nuggets were a bad matchup for him. Denver is one of the few teams left who play two physical bigs for a majority of the minutes. Bertans got bodied by their bigs to an embarrassing degree. Bertans trying to deal with Millsap was particularly pathetic.
3) Spur Fan somehow transforming this into a Mills/Belinelli related issue are being purposefully dishonest. When Bertans couldn't handle Denver's muscle, Poeltl is the player who started getting more minutes. Gay probably also got a few more minutes and was forced to defend Millsap when Bertans went full-blown Bonner and forgot to compete with the playoffs underway. Mills and Belinelli didn't play any more minutes because Bertans was getting trucked.
4) Bertans appears to be an important part of next year's team. With shooting becoming even more of an issue with the return of Murray, Bertans will be needed to stretch the floor. He's not going to play big minutes but he will play important minutes, much like this past season.
5) Bertans doesn't work as a starter. That's been proven, unfortunately. Considering he's a bench player who can't really be played when there are two physical bigs on the court, that's going to limit his playing time.
6) I think there's probably a better than 50/50 chance that this coming season will be his last with the Spurs. Bertans will probably get offers for more than he is worth as a free agent. With teams all wanting stretch bigs, someone is likely to pry him away. Considering he's a bad fit next to Poeltl (combined they don't rebound well enough defensively) and Poeltl is less likely to be overpaid, Bertans would be the one to let go.
7) Heading into the draft and free agency, the Spurs had to already be planning on bringing in players to compete with Bertans for minutes. If there's any fire to this smoke, this should make that even more of a priority.
Mugen is simply talking about pop's hypocrisy. He'll put bertans in the dog house but will give patty and beli minutes when they couldn't handle Denver's athleticism, speed and size either.
Raptors could use him. He's got a really quick trigger. And hes 6'10. Thats hard to find. Really hard to find.
Bertans. If you could play any type of defense and rebound the ball then you would’ve played more. It’s about heart/desire/technique and he is lacking at all 3.
Tbh I wanted half the team gone from last year and I got my wish. Now I’m hoping they do it 2 years in a row. Get rid of Patty, Marco, Gay, & Bertans.
Patty and Marco show cased no skill and no intelligence. Gay showcased no desire and no toughness. And Bertans showcased that he’s a late 2nd round pick for a reason.
Yeah he struggled but like others said, his leash was extremely short.
I can name a couple of players, who miserably failed in POs, but had much more playing time and a longer leash, so he's probably right. He's also better on defense that the likes of Belli and Millz
This, in particular, bugged me too.
There are posters with a particular agenda (hint: there are some in this thread) who want to turn everything into a Mills/Beli bash-fest and act like that taints everything else the Spurs did right this season.
We get it. Mills is overpaid. Beli is a bad defender. This isn't necessarily a hot take.
That being said, they were both net positives over the course of the season. The bench was productive, and they both played significant minutes which put the Spurs in the position to make the playoffs.
Mills was injured and put a terrible shooting display against Denver, and Beli did pretty much what you would expect: he had some good games, had some bad games, and got abused on defense. They didn't bring Marco in to stop anybody on the perimeter...they brought him in to shoot, and he did so at a .421+ clip before wilting in Game 7 (on three shots in limited minutes).
The agenda pushing has been taken to a new level now that Denver got ousted.
all I know is if we trade him he will score 20+ on us when we play against him
Yeah I don’t think Pop used him properly and he did have the shortest leash of any Spurs player. As I said earlier if I was his agent I would be asking nicely for a trade. In the end I think us trading Bertans for something would be better for both parties just as long as we don’t get screwed. I still think Bertans could be a good player for the right team and the right scheme but not with our team and lack of scheme
Maybe the reduction in minutes is justified. Bertans played terribly against Denver and since the all star break, his production dropped significantly
He is awful. It's hard to understand the fanboyism. Bye bye Bertans.
Well you could say that for most of our team Gay, White, Mills, Belli, DEROZZ,
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