What is Keldon Johnson's Floor/Ceiling in your opinion?

[BatManu20]

Floor: Vinny Del Negro

Ceiling: Michael Jordan

[313]

He looks like an NBA player, at (19?) which is promising. Reminds me of a Gary Harris, type. Not crazy athletic like Westbrook, or super long like Giannis, but he looks like a solid NBA player. His ceiling after 2 SL games I say, is a playoff rotational player. Which is a pretty high ceiling for a late 1st rounder*, imo.

[exstatic]

He looks like an NBA player, at (19?) which is promising. Reminds me of a Gary Harris, type. Not crazy athletic like Westbrook, or super long like Giannis, but he looks like a solid NBA player. His ceiling after 2 SL games I say, is a playoff rotational player. Which is a pretty high ceiling for a second round pick, imo.

He's not a second round pick.

[313]

He's not a second round pick.

Remembered right after posting lol

[313]

I think his floor is higher than Murray's floor. If he can have the same motor and work ethic as murray, he seems like a natural hooper.

[Keepin' it real]

Malik Hairston 2.0 -- spurstalk

[ceperez]

He's got length and athleticism. He also can shoot. This isn't the first time he's chucked a ball from mid court. Yes, it has to be a lucky shot, but to do it more than once tells you that he's got a great feel for shooting it from anywhere.

He also scores while taking contact.

He's only 19.

His floor is Danny Green... everything else is gravy.

[ceperez]

Right now I'm thinking his floor is Dejounte and his ceiling is D.White

Derrick White > Keldon Johnson > Dejounte Murray > Lonnie Walker

[acoelho1]

Whatever his ceiling is, he's has a high probability of reaching it given his tenacity and work ethic. Also, you can't discount the Spurs development program and they don't skip steps so rest assured they will maximize KJ's strengths and improve on his weaknesses. Lastly, kudos to the RC again for getting another player with solid tools at the 29th pick. Still too early but love his intensity and defense.

[JeffDuncan]

He got an OK game in Summer league against nobody. ONE game. Let's keep cool heads.

We need all the shooting we can find, so that's good.

To me though it is very worrisome his lack of verticality. Yes he has good long arms and seem to understrand the game, he is smart on where to be on the floor. But it is hard if he'll be overjumped on almost each possession.

Unless he finds verticality and at least 15 pounds of musles he'll have a hard time seeing the NBA floor soon.

You're quite sure of all that, are you?

Perhaps you wish to explain why NBA Draftnet says the following:

"Strengths: Athletic wing who plays with a lot of heart and determination ... Has an explosive first step that he uses to get by defenders to the rim ... He’s great at finishing around the basket ... He’s a good three-point shooter ... He shot 38% from behind the arc this season on just over three attempts per game ... He’s a great athlete with strong arms which will make a coveted player at the next level ... He has great leaping ability which will make him fun to watch in transition ... "

https://www.nbadraft.net/players/keldon-johnson

Tell us why we should believe you and not them.

You're not just lying in order to slander a Spurs player, are you?

[JeffDuncan]

Right now I'm thinking his floor is Dejounte and his ceiling is D.White

Derrick White > Keldon Johnson > Dejounte Murray > Lonnie Walker

ROFL!

Thanks for the laugh.

[SpursDynasty85]

Dont know much about the guy. This is a hard question but I'm going to guess he will be like a chuck person for us we are going to exploit that nice and quick shooting stroke he has.

[phxspurfan]

If anything that’s being generous. If he becomes more than that, great, but this guy is a small 3 and D at best and likely not athletic enough to hang with most quality 2’s.

Exactly. His middle ground is Keith Bogans Centerpiece (hustle defensive wing with medium length arms and medium physical tools/speed/athleticism). His high ground is Mario Elie, who was a key defensive contributor for several championship caliber teams like the Rockettes and 99 Spurs. Hung around the league for 10 years I think. Clutch and hard nosed dude, important piece to have on a roster but not an all star.

By comparison, higher end defensive prospects (to start at least) are guys like Sefolosha, Roberson, arguably Bowen, and of course made Apple Lover.

[monty4329]

You're quite sure of all that, are you?

Perhaps you wish to explain why NBA Draftnet says the following:

"Strengths: Athletic wing who plays with a lot of heart and determination ... Has an explosive first step that he uses to get by defenders to the rim ... He’s great at finishing around the basket ... He’s a good three-point shooter ... He shot 38% from behind the arc this season on just over three attempts per game ... He’s a great athlete with strong arms which will make a coveted player at the next level ... He has great leaping ability which will make him fun to watch in transition ... "

https://www.nbadraft.net/players/keldon-johnson

Tell us why we should believe you and not them.

You're not just lying in order to slander a Spurs player, are you?

First of all, you. Slander what? Suck me.

Second. ''leaping ability'' is NOT verticality. You understand about basketball, clearly. The people at drafnet understand the difference between '' fun to watch in transition'' where you ''leap'' and playing a half court game where you jump for layups and rebounds.

Third. You don't need to believe anybody. You may want to understand basketball and make your opinion. Or don't. Whatever.

[monty4329]

You're quite sure of all that, are you?

Perhaps you wish to explain why NBA Draftnet says the following:

"Strengths: Athletic wing who plays with a lot of heart and determination ... Has an explosive first step that he uses to get by defenders to the rim ... He’s great at finishing around the basket ... He’s a good three-point shooter ... He shot 38% from behind the arc this season on just over three attempts per game ... He’s a great athlete with strong arms which will make a coveted player at the next level ... He has great leaping ability which will make him fun to watch in transition ... "

https://www.nbadraft.net/players/keldon-johnson

Tell us why we should believe you and not them.

You're not just lying in order to slander a Spurs player, are you?

First of all, you. Slander what? Suck me.

Second. ''leaping ability'' is NOT verticality. You understand about basketball, clearly. The people at drafnet understand the difference between '' fun to watch in transition'' where you ''leap'' and playing a half court game where you jump for layups and rebounds.

Third. You don't need to believe anybody. You may want to understand basketball and make your opinion. Or don't. Whatever.

[kobyz]

Mitch Richmond if he develop like crazy in reach his absolute ceiling...

[Slippy]

Definitely see the baby Russ comparison from watching those highlights. The spurs in transition and simply attacking the rim are going to be much better at it next season with this guy, Luca and Lonny progressing.

[Roscoe P. Coltrane]

This guy might make up for the Walker bust.

[Gordy58]

This guy might make up for the Walker bust.

calling Walker a bust before he even gets consistent nba minutes lol

[leo07251413]

I feel like the ceiling of KJ would be Iggy.

[kobyz]

This guy might make up for the Walker bust.

True bomb

[rjv]

He's a #29 pick. Until he gets more games to prove otherwise, his floor has to be "washed out of the league in 2-3 years" like a bunch of other late first-rounders. Not that I think he's going to be nearly that bad.

"....other late first rounders," or other Spurs late first rounders?

[TheCerebral1]

Floor: Better than DeRozan

Ceiling: Better than DeRozan

[MultiTroll]

What would he garner in a trade?

Contract runs thru 2027
19 mil a year basically.

[Obstructed_View]

Well he isn't a better point guard than Jeremy Sochan