Cierto O Falso 05-06

[mookie2001]

true or false?
Chode addition

spurs
1. The most scoffed player on ST this year will be Rasho

2. NVE will hurt his knee/knees and miss games

3. Tim Duncan will avg more than 20.5 ppg

4. Brent Barry will have more than 30 DNP/CD

5. Parker will attempt more than 82 3pt FGs

6. Parker will shoot 75% FT

nba

1. Besides the Spurs you watch more Cleveland Cavaliers games than any other team

2. Shaq plays more than 62 games

3. Andrew Bogut will avg more than 10 ppg and 7 rpg

4. ESPN reports more on the Lakers, and Phil Jackson, and Kobe, and the Lakers, Phil vs Kobe, Los Angeles.

5. Dallas will get homecourt in 1st round

6. Houston will get homecourt in 1st round

[SWC Bonfire]

true or false?
Chode addition

spurs
1. The most scoffed player on ST this year will be Rasho
True, but only because Brent Barry is funnier at team appearances.
2. NVE will hurt his knee/knees and miss games
NVE won't hurt anything and still be a DNP-CD
3. Tim Duncan will avg more than 20.5 ppg
False. Tim will have a recliner on the sidelines and be served drinks in his multiple rest periods by a Korean Butler with a bowler hat.
4. Brent Barry will have more than 30 DNP/CD
False. NVE will, though.
5. Parker will attempt more than 82 3pt FGs
True. May actually make some, too.
6. Parker will shoot 75% FT
True. He will be focused when he's single again. nba

1. Besides the Spurs you watch more Cleveland Cavaliers games than any other team
False. This is the Washington Generals' year to shine.
2. Shaq plays more than 62 games
True. He won't have as much min per game
3. Andrew Bogut will avg more than 10 ppg and 7 rpg
True. But only because he'll get the ball a lot.
4. ESPN reports more on the Lakers, and Phil Jackson, and Kobe, and the Lakers, Phil vs Kobe, Los Angeles.
Duh
5. Dallas will get homecourt in 1st round
False
6. Houston will get homecourt in 1st round
True

[Kori Ellis]

1. The most scoffed player on ST this year will be Rasho True of course.

2. NVE will hurt his knee/knees and miss games True

3. Tim Duncan will avg more than 20.5 ppg True

4. Brent Barry will have more than 30 DNP/CD False

5. Parker will attempt more than 82 3pt FGs False

6. Parker will shoot 75% FT False, hopefully at least 70 though


1. Besides the Spurs you watch more Cleveland Cavaliers games than any other team False

2. Shaq plays more than 62 games False

3. Andrew Bogut will avg more than 10 ppg and 7 rpg False

4. ESPN reports more on the Lakers, and Phil Jackson, and Kobe, and the Lakers, Phil vs Kobe, Los Angeles. Definitely True

5. Dallas will get homecourt in 1st round False

6. Houston will get homecourt in 1st round True, they'll have the 2nd best record in the West after the Spurs and that will give them the 4th seed

[TDMVPDPOY]

htf is dallas and houston goin to get homecourt in first round???

we are garunteed homecourt firstround and only one spot left if they are lucky to get the 4th best record in teh west.

[SWC Bonfire]

I thought it was Verdad o Falso?

[clooneyschick04]

1. The most scoffed player on ST this year will be Rasho [B] True (sorry Veronica!)

2. NVE will hurt his knee/knees and miss games True

3. Tim Duncan will avg more than 20.5 ppg True

4. Brent Barry will have more than 30 DNP/CD False

5. Parker will attempt more than 82 3pt FGs False

6. Parker will shoot 75% FT False


1. Besides the Spurs you watch more Cleveland Cavaliers games than any other team False

2. Shaq plays more than 62 games False--his big toe will never stay healthy

3. Andrew Bogut will avg more than 10 ppg and 7 rpg True

4. ESPN reports more on the Lakers, and Phil Jackson, and Kobe, and the Lakers, Phil vs Kobe, Los Angeles. Duh!

5. Dallas will get homecourt in 1st round Definitely false

6. Houston will get homecourt in 1st round True

[coopdogg3]

All right I'll play.

Spurs
1. True - but I don't think he'll get that much hate. I say he plays decent, but his salary figures make him a target.

2. True - if history is any sort of guide. I think Pop will limit his minutes so it shouldn't be too much of a problem. I can easily see NVE missing a couple of games as a preven ive (sp?) measure if his knees get a little creaky. I say NVE is healthy and ready to go for the play-offs though.

3. True - Tim Duncan looks healthier than he has in years. May not be much more than 20.5, but I am willing to bet he gets 22 easy.

4. False - I think Barry will find some minutes. Based on no evidence whatsoever, I say Barry plays better this year. I am thinking that Barry plays in at least 60 games.

5. Maybe - I dunno, this is a tough one. About 82 sounds right. What the heck - TRUE - and he shoots about 30-32% for his 3pa.

6. False - He works on his mechanics and that should mean a short-term hit, followed by long-term benefits. If his shooting improves, I think we will see the benefits next season, more than this one.

NBA

1. True - Probably. They will get a lot of national TV time, and I love Lebron's game.

2. True - Seems motivated. Will probably kill him for the play-offs though. SVG will push his players hard to keep from getting axed. Riley's strategy of back-stabbing completely back-fires as Heat produce good result in regular season, to get hammered in play-offs as the team is too drained to produce when it matters most.

3. True - Bogut seems like the solid type of player that won't get many high-lights but should be a solid contributer. I say he is 12-15 ppg and 8-10 rpg when it is all said and done.

4. True - of course. If things go well that is all they will be talking about. If things go poorly that is all they will be talking about. A run by Cavs would silence some of that talk maybe.

5. False - tough call. Very tough. I say they barely miss out with a 5 seed. Dallas should have a very good team, in a very hard division.

6. True - Houston should probably edge out Dallas and get the 4 seed. The Texas trio make division the toughest in the NBA. I could see the Houston vs. Dallas match-up going either way really, but I just think Houston has the horses.

coopdogg3

[thispego]

true or false?
Chode addition

spurs
1. The most scoffed player on ST this year will be Rasho T

2. NVE will hurt his knee/knees and miss games F

3. Tim Duncan will avg more than 20.5 ppg T

4. Brent Barry will have more than 30 DNP/CD F are you joking?

5. Parker will attempt more than 82 3pt FGs F we have other guys to take the 3

6. Parker will shoot 75% FT F he'll shoot bettter

nba

1. Besides the Spurs you watch more Cleveland Cavaliers games than any other team F League Pass is free now?

2. Shaq plays more than 62 games T

3. Andrew Bogut will avg more than 10 ppg and 7 rpg F

4. ESPN reports more on the Lakers, and Phil Jackson, and Kobe, and the Lakers, Phil vs Kobe, Los Angeles.

5. Dallas will get homecourt in 1st round F

6. Houston will get homecourt in 1st round T rockets are gonna be sick this year

[angel_luv]

Rasho is going to prove you all wrong- just you wait.

As for the rest, anything good that can happen will. =)

[thispego]

rasho will get scoffed whether he plays good or not, there will always be someone who sees a lack of aggressiveness on a play or a timid or weak dunk and then the threads will start flying

[angel_luv]

rasho will get scoffed whether he plays good or not, there will always be someone who sees a lack of aggressiveness on a play or a timid or weak dunk and then the threads will start flying

Strange how people pay so much attention to someone they cannot stand.

[sa_butta]

spurs
1. The most scoffed player on ST this year will be Rasho TRUE

2. NVE will hurt his knee/knees and miss games TRUE

3. Tim Duncan will avg more than 20.5 ppg TRUE

4. Brent Barry will have more than 30 DNP/CD FALSE

5. Parker will attempt more than 82 3pt FGs TRUE

6. Parker will shoot 75% FT TRUE

nba

1. Besides the Spurs you watch more Cleveland Cavaliers games than any other team FALSE

2. Shaq plays more than 62 games TRUE

3. Andrew Bogut will avg more than 10 ppg and 7 rpg FALSE

4. ESPN reports more on the Lakers, and Phil Jackson, and Kobe, and the Lakers, Phil vs Kobe, Los Angeles. TRUE

5. Dallas will get homecourt in 1st round FALSE

6. Houston will get homecourt in 1st round TRUE

[Phenomanul]

true or false?
Chode addition

spurs
1. The most scoffed player on ST this year will be Rasho
T
2. NVE will hurt his knee/knees and miss games
T
3. Tim Duncan will avg more than 20.5 ppg
T
4. Brent Barry will have more than 30 DNP/CD
F
5. Parker will attempt more than 82 3pt FGs
T - That's more than one 3pt attempt per game...
6. Parker will shoot 75% FT
F
nba

1. Besides the Spurs you watch more Cleveland Cavaliers games than any other team
F
2. Shaq plays more than 62 games
T
3. Andrew Bogut will avg more than 10 ppg and 7 rpg
T
4. ESPN reports more on the Lakers, and Phil Jackson, and Kobe, and the Lakers, Phil vs Kobe, Los Angeles.
T
5. Dallas will get homecourt in 1st round
F
6. Houston will get homecourt in 1st round
T

[LilMissSPURfect]

true or false?
Chode addition

spurs
1. The most scoffed player on ST this year will be Rasho

2. NVE will hurt his knee/knees and miss games

3. Tim Duncan will avg more than 20.5 ppg

4. Brent Barry will have more than 30 DNP/CD

5. Parker will attempt more than 82 3pt FGs

6. Parker will shoot 75% FT

nba

1. Besides the Spurs you watch more Cleveland Cavaliers games than any other team

2. Shaq plays more than 62 games

3. Andrew Bogut will avg more than 10 ppg and 7 rpg

4. ESPN reports more on the Lakers, and Phil Jackson, and Kobe, and the Lakers, Phil vs Kobe, Los Angeles.

5. Dallas will get homecourt in 1st round

6. Houston will get homecourt in 1st round

SPURS CELEBRATE BACK TO BACK CHAMPIONSHIPS !!!!!
Cierto !

[lilmads]

true or false?
Chode addition

spurs
1. The most scoffed player on ST this year will be Rasho
T
2. NVE will hurt his knee/knees and miss games
T
3. Tim Duncan will avg more than 20.5 ppg
T
4. Brent Barry will have more than 30 DNP/CD
F
5. Parker will attempt more than 82 3pt FGs
F
6. Parker will shoot 75% FT
F... Hopefully a good 70-72% though...

nba

1. Besides the Spurs you watch more Cleveland Cavaliers games than any other team
F... No...!
2. Shaq plays more than 62 games
F
3. Andrew Bogut will avg more than 10 ppg and 7 rpg
T
4. ESPN reports more on the Lakers, and Phil Jackson, and Kobe, and the Lakers, Phil vs Kobe, Los Angeles.
T... What else do you expect!?
5. Dallas will get homecourt in 1st round
F
6. Houston will get homecourt in 1st round
T

[Cant_Be_Faded]

F League Pass is free now?

pego you're dumb

[Swishy McJackass]

true or false?
Chode addition

spurs
1. The most scoffed player on ST this year will be Rasho
Cierto, by a mile
2. NVE will hurt his knee/knees and miss games
Falso
3. Tim Duncan will avg more than 20.5 ppg
Cierto
4. Brent Barry will have more than 30 DNP/CD
Falso
5. Parker will attempt more than 82 3pt FGs
Cierto
6. Parker will shoot 75% FT
Falso
nba

1. Besides the Spurs you watch more Cleveland Cavaliers games than any other team
Falso, I'll watch whoever the Spurs are playing, most likely
2. Shaq plays more than 62 games
Cierto
3. Andrew Bogut will avg more than 10 ppg and 7 rpg
Cierto
4. ESPN reports more on the Lakers, and Phil Jackson, and Kobe, and the Lakers, Phil vs Kobe, Los Angeles.
Cierto, unfortunately
5. Dallas will get homecourt in 1st round
Falso
6. Houston will get homecourt in 1st round
Cierto

[Reggie Miller]

Spurs
1. The most scoffed player on ST this year will be Rasho.

FALSE. This honor will go to NVE.

2. NVE will hurt his knee/knees and miss games.

TRUE. The question is when, and will it hurt the team?

3. Tim Duncan will avg more than 20.5 ppg.

TRUE. I hope that this is false, but only because that would mean that some of the new additions are carrying part of his load. At this point, Tim could use the help in the interest of extending his career. I think he was playing hurt through the entire playoff run.

4. Brent Barry will have more than 30 DNP/CD.

FALSE. I don't see as many Spurs games as most of the regular members here, but Barry seems to do what Pop expects him to do. I can't see him sitting nearly half of the season. NVE may have 30 DNP/CDs, though.

5. Parker will attempt more than 82 3pt FGs.

FALSE. This may be wishful thinking on my part...

6. Parker will shoot 75% FT.

FALSE.


NBA.

1. Besides the Spurs you watch more Cleveland Cavaliers games than any other team.

FALSE. We get FSMW, which is all Pacers/all the time in our market.

2. Shaq plays more than 62 games.

TRUE. This was tough. The Heat are stacked on paper, which should take some of the load off Shaq. However, none of their new players are consistent scorers, and I think that the Heat may have subtracted through addition. I guess what I'm saying is that I see Shaq making 62, but the reason may be he's playing hurt out of necessity.

3. Andrew Bogut will avg more than 10 ppg and 7 rpg.

FALSE. I am going to go out on a limb and predict that Bogut will be a cog in some team's Hack-a-Shaq Hydra in three or four years. (The biggest risk with this prediction is assuming that Shaq won't retire before Bogut is moved.) I agree with the previous posts that Bogut may get the ball on nearly every possession this season, so I could be dead wrong.

4. ESPN reports more on the Lakers, and Phil Jackson, and Kobe, and the Lakers, Phil vs Kobe, Los Angeles.

TRUE, TOO TRUE. The real story with the Lakers is finding out what exactly Mitch Kupchak is on; I want to try two hits of whatever it is... Seriously, the Lakers are carrying some players that I don't even expect to be in the league in a few years (and not from aging gracefully and retiring). Does anyone except Jerry Buss really expect for Kwame Brown to turn his life around?

5. Dallas will get homecourt in 1st round.

FALSE. I think it is more likely that Dallas misses the playoffs entirely. (I do think they make the playoffs, of course.)

6. Houston will get homecourt in 1st round.

FALSE. See above.

I haven't done the math, but I would think that it would become difficult for any SW Division opponent to seed that high if the Spurs win over 62 games. (I expect them to win at least 60.) Again, I didn't do the math, and I didn't account for the Hornets totally throwing off the "average," so to speak. In other words, the other SW teams will also be racking up more or less automatic Division wins against New Orleans/OK City/Baton Rouge/Anaheim/whatever.

Anyone more mathematically inclined interested in looking into this? I will do it if someone could give me the probability equation; I was never good at figuring probability.

[SpursIndonesia]

spurs
1. The most scoffed player on ST this year will be Rasho TRUE

2. NVE will hurt his knee/knees and miss games FALSE

3. Tim Duncan will avg more than 20.5 ppg FALSE

4. Brent Barry will have more than 30 DNP/CD FALSE

5. Parker will attempt more than 82 3pt FGs TRUE

6. Parker will shoot 75% FT TRUE, ALMOST PERHAPS

nba

1. Besides the Spurs you watch more Cleveland Cavaliers games than any other team FALSE -depending on what's being televised by ESPN Asia or Star Sport Asia and my local TV

2. Shaq plays more than 62 games TRUE

3. Andrew Bogut will avg more than 10 ppg and 7 rpg FALSE - not with Jamaal Magloire waiting in the wing

4. ESPN reports more on the Lakers, and Phil Jackson, and Kobe, and the Lakers, Phil vs Kobe, Los Angeles. TRUE - When it ever wasn't ?

5. Dallas will get homecourt in 1st round FALSE

6. Houston will get homecourt in 1st round TRUE

[Cant_Be_Faded]

spurs
1. The most scoffed player on ST this year will be Rasho F

2. NVE will hurt his knee/knees and miss games F

3. Tim Duncan will avg more than 20.5 ppg T

4. Brent Barry will have more than 30 DNP/CD F

5. Parker will attempt more than 82 3pt FGs F

6. Parker will shoot 75% FT F

nba

1. Besides the Spurs you watch more Cleveland Cavaliers games than any other team T

2. Shaq plays more than 62 games T

3. Andrew Bogut will avg more than 10 ppg and 7 rpg F

4. ESPN reports more on the Lakers, and Phil Jackson, and Kobe, and the Lakers, Phil vs Kobe, Los Angeles. Naturally.

5. Dallas will get homecourt in 1st round F

6. Houston will get homecourt in 1st round T

[Mavs<Spurs]

Good post, good questions.

If you are like me, you deliberately created a pattern for the answers.

Spurs,

Es cierto
Es cierto
Es cierto
Es cierto
es falso
es falso

NBA

Es falso
Es falso
Es la verdad
Es cierto
De hecho
Es cierto

[Mavs<Spurs]

Spurs
1. The most scoffed player on ST this year will be Rasho.

FALSE. This honor will go to NVE.

2. NVE will hurt his knee/knees and miss games.

TRUE. The question is when, and will it hurt the team?

3. Tim Duncan will avg more than 20.5 ppg.

TRUE. I hope that this is false, but only because that would mean that some of the new additions are carrying part of his load. At this point, Tim could use the help in the interest of extending his career. I think he was playing hurt through the entire playoff run.

4. Brent Barry will have more than 30 DNP/CD.

FALSE. I don't see as many Spurs games as most of the regular members here, but Barry seems to do what Pop expects him to do. I can't see him sitting nearly half of the season. NVE may have 30 DNP/CDs, though.

5. Parker will attempt more than 82 3pt FGs.

FALSE. This may be wishful thinking on my part...

6. Parker will shoot 75% FT.

FALSE.


NBA.

1. Besides the Spurs you watch more Cleveland Cavaliers games than any other team.

FALSE. We get FSMW, which is all Pacers/all the time in our market.

2. Shaq plays more than 62 games.

TRUE. This was tough. The Heat are stacked on paper, which should take some of the load off Shaq. However, none of their new players are consistent scorers, and I think that the Heat may have subtracted through addition. I guess what I'm saying is that I see Shaq making 62, but the reason may be he's playing hurt out of necessity.

3. Andrew Bogut will avg more than 10 ppg and 7 rpg.

FALSE. I am going to go out on a limb and predict that Bogut will be a cog in some team's Hack-a-Shaq Hydra in three or four years. (The biggest risk with this prediction is assuming that Shaq won't retire before Bogut is moved.) I agree with the previous posts that Bogut may get the ball on nearly every possession this season, so I could be dead wrong.

4. ESPN reports more on the Lakers, and Phil Jackson, and Kobe, and the Lakers, Phil vs Kobe, Los Angeles.

TRUE, TOO TRUE. The real story with the Lakers is finding out what exactly Mitch Kupchak is on; I want to try two hits of whatever it is... Seriously, the Lakers are carrying some players that I don't even expect to be in the league in a few years (and not from aging gracefully and retiring). Does anyone except Jerry Buss really expect for Kwame Brown to turn his life around?

5. Dallas will get homecourt in 1st round.

FALSE. I think it is more likely that Dallas misses the playoffs entirely. (I do think they make the playoffs, of course.)

6. Houston will get homecourt in 1st round.

FALSE. See above.

I haven't done the math, but I would think that it would become difficult for any SW Division opponent to seed that high if the Spurs win over 62 games. (I expect them to win at least 60.) Again, I didn't do the math, and I didn't account for the Hornets totally throwing off the "average," so to speak. In other words, the other SW teams will also be racking up more or less automatic Division wins against New Orleans/OK City/Baton Rouge/Anaheim/whatever.

Anyone more mathematically inclined interested in looking into this? I will do it if someone could give me the probability equation; I was never good at figuring probability.

I'll take a whack at it. I'm a graduate math student. My undergrad and grad classes were in calculus (i,ii,iii), differential equations, intro to topology, general topology, linear algebra, abstract algebra and analysis i and ii. Set theory, ... but no classes in probability directly.

I will do it soon. It's just I got a paper on Pascal I am writing, but as I say this looks pretty straightforward.

Probably the key is going to be making reasonable assumptions in terms of Spurs record in the division and Hornets record in the division. Possibly looking at Spurs winning 2/3 of their games in division or better.
Hornets, still at the bottom of the barrel, losing 2/3 or more of their games in division. So, Spurs beat Houston and Houston beats Hornets....
This leaves Houston (as an example) with a 50 % record against these two opponents. To get their % higher, they are going to have to make up for it either by winning better than 75 % of their other games. 60 wins is almost 75 %. 60-22. Since 50 % is lower than the 75 % that they want to average, they have to make up for it by a much higher percentage.
Now, just as common sense would suggest, it becomes increasingly less likely since a record of 60 wins is not likely to coincide with a bad record in one's own division. After all, this is truly a zero sum game.

This is just off hand analysis off the top of my head. I don't have a formula per se. Part of that stems from the fact that we have so many variables.
Probably somebody has written a complex program with an algorith to just spit this out. I don't have that. However, there would be so many possible outcomes, many of which would have relatively close degrees of probability. So, in this case, the exact numbers are not as helpful since there would be tons of them. On the other hand, a rough, but reasonable outcome based upon what we think are reasonably accurate forecasts is I think within our reach and will serve the purpose.

More work later. Back to Pascal, induction and his stupid triangle with binomial theorem. recursive sequences... Blah....

Hope this helps at least some.

[Reggie Miller]

Thanks! I was just going by the sort of common sense assumptions you mention. That is, you would assume that a team that wins over 75% of its games would win at least 75% in its own division. Since there are only so many games and wins to go around, any team winning 60+ games has to affect the other teams in the division. When I attempted a rough equation, I gave up in a few seconds, because I thought of all of the variables. Here's a few of the ones I came up with:

Historically, successful teams tend to play better at home and/or in their own division. Home advantage is difficult enough to model, even though it theoretically cancels out (41 away/41 home). However, this year we have a team in the division that does not have a home court, so to speak.

Assuming an "intradivision" factor exists, it would require a lot of data to insure anything like accuracy. In other words, we might learn that an overall record of 75% equated with an average of 80% in the division with a mean closer to 85%. (That would not shock me, but it does sound a bit high.) The problem is that as you get closer to 65 wins, you would run into the problem of insufficient data. Too few teams have finished that high, and the schedule wasn't always 82 games.

It then occurred to me that the Hornets make it even more difficult, because it is not unreasonable to think that they will set a new "worst season" record. That was a real possibilty before they became nomads. I almost expect the Texas teams to sweep their season series with the Hornets.