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Forbes must be an F. It was a failure of a game. I didn't like Gay this game. White does look injured and Spurs can't afford to rest him (how sad). Walker must get minutes now. There will be more good than bad, so let's go with more Walker.
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tl;dr: Happy Thanksgiving, Lonnie Walker IV played.
Forbes must be an F. It was a failure of a game. I didn't like Gay this game. White does look injured and Spurs can't afford to rest him (how sad). Walker must get minutes now. There will be more good than bad, so let's go with more Walker.
There are things to get excited about here and there but we keep loosing and loosing and loosing. Such an unfamiliar feeling
its the three pointers ... any player of the Timberwolves seemed to be able to hit the three why the Spurs cannot buy one ... especially at home this should not happen
Thanks Timvp.
Another sad and disappointing loss to a team the Spurs should have won against. Do we wait for 10 more games and call time of death? Popvich is not even attempting to find lineup changes. Its same ol guys , and same results.
Time to play the youngers guys because the vets are not playing like they are interested. Can Popovich start Waker over Forbes now. He played great. When Forbes came in the rally was over. I still say DeRozan should be coming off th bench so his isolation game can flourish, and can guard second tier players.
Why are we assuming this is just a slump? Perhaps, this is who we are based on the players that are getting most of the minutes. It’s beyond time to infuse more youth into the rotation and play faster with Murray pushing it.
Ugh. The T’Pups are good, but this was such a winnable game. But hey, LONNIE!!
Losing is winning for the Spurs. Get that high draft pick for next year. They should have lost more last year too. Need better players on the roster.
Duh -
only EVERYONE here can see that Lonnie needs playing time - except Pop -
hopefully Pop doesn't go back to his head games with Lonnie and slows the process even further.
Players - need playing time. Lonnie and Metu have tons of potential but there will be growing pains -
much better to throw them out now and see what happens by the end of the season -
the playoffs will not be possible the way things are going - so just throw them out there.
Gay and Dejounte and White - are perennially gimpy so moderating their playing time to give the rookies a shot is a win-win.
LMA & DDR - do a lot of coasting - so trimming their playing time will keep them fresh for a late push and will keep them a little worried (hungry) about losing their minutes.
Beli and Forbes in spot minutes might spark the team instead of kill the team every time they are depended on to carry a full load. Patty as a spark plug and sniper is his comfort zone.
Maybe Timmy can coax old man Pop into some fresher thinking.
As I watched Walker clearly being the fastest player on the court I imagined
Walker, Murray, DDR, Jakcob, and I guess Gay or Lyles get some run. They might be able to run some effective fast breaks.
Pop with the passing grade
I thought it was a winnable game had Spurs 3pts went in. If Forbes’ shots are not hoing in, why leave him out there? It’s a breath of fresh air to see Walker with extended minutes, and not just garbage time. And he delivered big time. That was a sight to see him running with Murray. I hope it continues. Take some of Forbes’ minutes and ALL of Marco’s minutes too. Why didn’t Caroll play? His 3pts could’ve fallen. What’s so hard with Spurs’ plays these days anyways. It’s not like the ball is moving. More like Aldridge/Demar iso. I hope Nephew visiting inspires these guys to step up and continue from there. I didn’t want to think I wasted once again my money on League Pass. Happy thanksgiving y’all.
I knew inelli being completely out of the rotation was too good to be true. I said after the Lakers game that it would not surprise me if Pop went right back to him the next game and sure enough he did. Watch him be the first SG/SF off the bench against the Clippers too.
Lonnie's improvement on defense is great to see though. I remember watching him in Summer League thinking "he's never going to be a good defender". His instincts seemed off and his feet didn't look to be the quickest. Looks completely different now. A less stubborn, vet loving coach would sic him on Nephew or PG next game, imo.
Stretches of competence in coaching and it resulted in a close game when those lineups were in. Then back to the well and back to the L’s.
Game was lost in the 2nd quarter when Pop re edly decided to go with Beli/Forbes for long stretches. Wolves created separation that quarter and spurs were never able to make up the ground. Pop still losing games with re ed rotations smh.
Wolves starters: 133 minutes, 10-25 from 3s: 30 points
Spurs starters: 135 minutes, 3-15 from 3s: 9 points.
But we don't need shooters...
White is clearly hurt and needs to be shut down. But I like White taking 6 threes last night. Even though he only made 1 of em, the fact that he took 6 threes is big for me.
Murray needs to take more than 2 threes a game. Idc that he airballed one of them. We need more volume from him and confidence that he will take them.
Lonnie needs minutes. We aren’t winning anyways so this whole he isn’t good enough on D or doesn’t know the system doesn’t mean when we are losing so much. Get him reps and see what you have and what he needs to build on. It’s too hard to say everything. Evaluate his strengths and weaknesses in actual games.
As for losing so much, I called it in the beginning of the year. Accept that this is Pops last year guys and enjoy the ride. It’s been a of a run and we are witnessing a legend go out on his terms.
Lonnie wasn't too bad for a guy that doesn't belong in the league eh, moronty?
-Your favorite Edgelord.
No he wasn't, and I am happy for him especially if it will land him a Simmons contract later on. Weìll see more of him and Metu next 5 months
Meantime... the same night, in the real NBA world of non-tanking teams, pick #20 of last draft went for 5-5, 3+3 from 3s, 4 stl, 2 blk.
Refreshing to see someone in this forum owning their stupid takes, tbh
This was an excellent article. On Thanksgiving I'm thankful for this dead-on assessment of another L. I was disappointed to see Beli off the bench again doing what he does 'missing shots and offering no defense.'
My question for everyone is, 'What's the story?' Early on I thought no way would the Spurs not be trying to win. Especially at home where fans are buying tickets. While I didn't expect us to win this tough 3 game home stand, I am not convinced with Forbes in the staring lineup and Marco first off the bench that winning is that big of a deal right now. Armchair quarterbacking aside, are we just playing for a lottery pick or are we trying to make the playoffs? There was a lot of effort last night, the fix wasn't in. I'm just unsure how serious we are about winning in the first place.
100% agree
First half the team looked lost, sad and even desperated. There is still collective offensive game without selfishness that tells us the team isn't broken yet. Some defensive plays here and there as well but the truth is the Spurs hardly can beat anybody these days.
IMO, the team won't improve until our PGs play better. Murray and White are playing so poorly. They are playing without passion nor focus. If they had played this bad in his rookie season, they would still be in Austin. We don't have great leaders, Forbes needs to go, Lonnie must play and Pop bla bla.... ok but I think the key are DJ and Derrick. Unless Pop figures out something else that suddenly revitalizes the entire team.
I miss 40y olders Tim Duncan and Manu Ginobili, no-jump Splitter and planet-size-ass Boris Diaw playing great defense. Damned overrated athleticism, blessed underrated baskeball IQ!
And that may be the fatal flaw with Poeltl. In a league that's 3P happy, he has to be able to come out and defend someone like KAT at the arc. He looked good enough elsewhere, but offered zero resistance out on the perimeter.
Can he be taught? Do the Spurs actually do things like that?
You can only hope that one of the assistants is telling him exactly this. It's getting so obvious except to the guy that's in charge.
Comon Tim.
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