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We're opening. Can't tell you if there's a strategy tbh.
If you listen to the mainstream media you get the impression that we’re all supposed to just sit in our homes for the next 12 months until there is a vaccine or until we can all get tested multiple times per day which isn’t going to happen any time soon.
I think it starts with allowing younger people with no known health complications to start opening up the economy now and begin building herd immunity. Some of what is being said by the far right is irresponsible but the far left is being irresponsible in the opposite direction.
We're opening. Can't tell you if there's a strategy tbh.
Cool, lay out a common sense strategy
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What could be more common sense than nobody go outside until 2022 best case?
Here's the issue with that. "Younger people with no known health complications" of working age are a minority in American society. There's not enough of them to build any sort of meaningful herd immunity. It's also immoral to proverbially send them "into battle" to willingly get a disease we don't know much about. By all accounts, the hospitalization rate for younger people is higher than the flu. And many younger millennials and Gen-Z still live at home with their parents.
The estimates are that 25-50% of carriers are asymptomatic, so there's a more than a good chance these younger people will infect their whole household and not know it. That's why this virus is tougher than SARS-1, even though SARS-1 had a higher mortality rate. You weren't really infectious unless you showed symptoms with SARS-1.
I would also say that many people who are young and healthy are already working jobs that are "open," from the stay-at-home tech jobs to the essential healthcare, grocery workers, fast food, etc jobs. Also, 65% of Americans per the latest polls said they will still stay-at-home as they were even if restrictions are lifted. If you "open up," the consumer base won't be large enough to save theaters, restaurants, bars, etc. So opening up will do little for the economy but cause more death.
The solution really is patience until testing is ramped up and at least a proven antiviral treatment is found. Sure, small local communities in sparsely populated areas can probably open up more safely, but a national opening up won't achieve much besides undermining all the work we've done this past month to plateau the growth.
I realize that, but we have to start somewhere. You could still have social distancing but manageable infection case numbers ... and less likely to be effected people would be getting the virus. Of course no one would be forced to go out.
How long are we supposed to wait for that? Until there’s an economic depression?
What's the solution? People might need to accept the fact that damage is done. Even if we irresponsibly declare the country "open", life will not go back to normal overnight. It'll be some time before most will be comfortable enough to pack into bars, theaters, cruise ships, amusement parks, sporting events, etc. And regardless, it'll create a massive surge and take a bigger toll on the economy in the long run
Retailers are reopening in the coming weeks for curbside and delivery, most restaurants are already open for curbside, everyone that can work from home likely already is. Baby steps. Others are going to have to find creative new ways to do business while maintaining social distancing. Even places like Disney World will be a different experience when they reopen.
And off to the parrots that keep repeating that we're being forced to stay indoors. Nobody is keeping you inside.
Last edited by Xevious; 04-22-2020 at 01:13 AM.
Antivirals and a ramp up in testing should hopefully be ready by Summer's end. And during Summer, yes, I would advocate for a very careful and controlled reopening of some sectors. I do think virus transmission rate will drop during the Summer. Australia is a good case study. They really haven't been hit at all despite a late lockdown.
And also a off to the people who think people who aren't particularly at risk (younger people with no pre-existing conditions) will be comfortable just jumping back into society as before. I'm in a non-risk group, and I still don't want to risk getting this . Right now, it's an "unknown." We're comfortable "risking" getting the flu because we have a good idea how our bodies will react to it, since we've been living with the flu for centuries. This is a new virus that attacks differently, and you just don't know how it will affect you. It can claim a healthy 30 year old but a 100 year old can walk away from it. Sure, odds are in my favor to just be a mild case. But I don't want to play the odds. I want certainty.
For more certainty, we need more data. And we don't have that data right now.
There is a strategy put out by the CDC, in the form of guidelines.
The administration isn't, as far as I can tell, really working toward using it.
This is the plan but first you need to get past the point to where the healthcare system can handle the load which in some places where they have or are acting responsibly are at or near that point. Places like the southern states will kill themselves now and unfairly kill their healthcare workers. The protesting MAGA idiots are not only trying to force opening prematurely but aren’t and won’t even comply with the necessary behavior that will be required once open like masks and social distancing. Truly stupid people.
people fail to realize that we need to adjust to the virus and not vice versa
we dont decide when and how to open up. the virus does
Trash announced in a presser Sunday he will utilize the Defense Production Act for a company in Maine, Puritan, to dramatically increased production of swabs, a bottleneck for testing. It will take 30 days to ramp up this production. States have been screaming at Trash for a couple of months they need swabs all the while he’s been saying it’s not his responsibility. Why did it take Trash so long to get this done? Why has he been lying for months, saying there was and is more than enough capacity for anyone who wants a test to get one. Why did he say that again yesterday because there’s more than enough platforms, a lie of testing availability he obviously knows about. He’s just as always obfuscating to deflect because he knows swabs and kits are the issues not platforms. Trash supporters make excuses for your leaders incompetence in taking responsibility and dealing with a crisis.
swabs are not the only problem
armies of disease tracers will be needed and nobody knows where the $ for these guys will come from and how to even start to hire/train these nigas
1st world superpower
a 3 micron bug is obliterating us
This is my thoughts summed up.
In wartime
leaders tell the troops
”if you leave the bunker before i give the order - you will get your head blown off”
idiots leave the bunker and get their heads blown off
the ones who heed the leader survive
let the idiots go out
the rest of us can wait
With 3rd world leadership. That's our problem. Just imagine the healthcare infrastructure (and general infrastructure overall) we could have if we focused our energy on that instead of fighting goat herders for 20 years and building trillions worth of planes, subs, carriers, tanks, bases, etc, etc? It would put everyone else to shame. South Korea, Germany, etc healthcare would look like a cute toy next to it. And Dems are guilty just the same of this "3rd World Leadership." No politician in my lifetime ever had the guts or integrity to cut defense spending and spend it on healthcare and education. Eisenhower issued that warning 60 years ago, and it has come true.swabs are not the only problem
armies of disease tracers will be needed and nobody knows where the $ for these guys will come from and how to even start to hire/train these nigas
Though you had nary problem letting them leave the bunker to blow up Sanders, by God.
nah
i supported sanders
but he didnt have the votes and there was a bigger evil to defeat-
the brainwashed cult and its traitor criminal leader
priorities
Regardless, they was still urged to leave the bunker to vote.
That sounds very early to me. I’ve heard we can expect that more like next year.
The vaccine has a timeline of 12-18 months. Ramped up testing should be achievable by the Summer. An effective antiviral is anyone's guess, but I'm hopeful.
As a young healthy person I would go out there right now. Stop being scared smh! Liberate Texas!
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