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    I love J.T. smeagol's Avatar
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    If somebody has to call him out, it better be a member a his Church.

    Does anybody know what the is wrong with him?

    Is he still injured? Cause not only his shot is not falling but his usual aggressivness is not there either.

    So much for all those people who said he needed to rest (including himself) through the summer. Last year he played in Athens and when the season started, he came out firing on all cylinders.

    This year he rests all summer (and works on his game) and he is sucking monkey's testicles.

    To the great basketaball minds that post here, I would like an answer.

    Thans

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    GIVE IT TO GINOBILI beirmeistr's Avatar
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    This is not an excuse but an observation. I think that opponents are defending him tougher than last year. Now as to why he is subpar so far---he still does not have his normal lift. I wouldn't think it would affect his finishing his drives but something is. He has been subpar on his finishes. And, like Bowen and Horry, he has not found his shooting touch.

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    Whoa. That's deep. spurschick's Avatar
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    I was joking last night that maybe Manu should have played this summer. Tony did and now he's playing great! So did Rasho.

    I think that he is just going through a funk. It wouldn't be the first time, we're just not used to seeing it at the beginning of the season. I think that the thigh pad is bothering him more than the bruise itself. I also think that Pop is doing his rotation experiments and it's difficult to get something going when you're struggling. If you noticed though, that dunk he had in the fourth seemed to boost him a bit and then he followed it with a 3-pointer.

    Our patron saint has his ups and downs like everyone else. Keep the faith.

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    It's the hair.... Samson effect.

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    I was wondering the same thing...why is he sucking ass these games?

    How could he go from what he did to the Pistons in June to this bull ?

    He's hurting my fantasy team too, and his fg% sucks ass.

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    Doesn't have the explosiveness and dexterity (sp) on drives that he normally has. He had the offseason off of course, so the only way to explain this is the thigh bruise. He could just be struggling as well, as we know, over the years a lot of the Spurs best players start off slow.

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    Is he still injured? Cause not only his shot is not falling but his usual aggressivness is not there either.
    True dat. WTFU w/my main man Manu?

    All I can think is he must be hurt/bothered by something, because he is NOT himself yet. Maybe he's still on his honeymoon in his mind...

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    No Spur seemed emotionally involved in, committed to the game.
    Blank faces, just like pre-season.
    Manu, too, and he is the last person I expect detachment from.

    Are we stuck with the as Spurs as yet another Championship team who won't get off their laurels to play seriously. One of the reasons repeating is so hard.

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    Our patron saint has his ups and downs like everyone else. Keep the faith.

    I believe!=)

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    Whoa. That's deep. spurschick's Avatar
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    He scored 13 points, behind Timmy's 18 and Tony's 24. Yeah, he's not his normal self right now, but what does that say for the other guys? He played 28 minutes and scored 13. Finley played 27 minutes and scored 2. Brent played 28 minutes and scored 5. I know we expect more from Manu, but give the guy a break. Everyone's talking about this incredibly deep bench we have, but we're still putting all this pressure on Manu to carry the team? Manu is Manu. He'll be fine.

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    Vince Carter > Manu

    Carter is the type of player that can take over a game consistently, Manu cannot.
    Only homer spur fans think otherwise.

    The spurs should have traded Manu and throw ins to match salary for Carter last year.


    Manu will not make the all star team this year. He should not have made it last year either. Parker will make it this year.

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    If you noticed though, that dunk he had in the fourth seemed to boost him a bit and then he followed it with a 3-pointer.
    Not only that but he followed up with a steal, but then he clanked the first FT.

    The only Spur that is taking his game to the next level is Tony (and he is still sketchy when it comes to shooting, but his penetration is amazing).

    Even TD is not putting the numbers, although if nobody is playing more than 30 minutes, it will be difficult to maintain the stats.

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    Vince Carter > Manu

    Carter is the type of player that can take over a game consistently, Manu cannot.
    Only homer spur fans think otherwise.

    The spurs should have traded Manu and throw ins to match salary for Carter last year.


    Manu will not make the all star team this year. He should not have made it last year either. Parker will make it this year.
    rascal is here after a loss.

    What's new?

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    I love J.T. smeagol's Avatar
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    Vince Carter > Manu
    That's your opinion.

    Carter is the type of player that can take over a game consistently, Manu cannot.
    How many games did Manu take over in the playoffs last year, when it mattered? How many did VC take over?

    Case closed.

    Only homer spur fans think otherwise.
    Well you are neither.


    The spurs should have traded Manu and throw ins to match salary for Carter last year.
    Last year: No Manu, no le.

    But hey, its pretty clear you won't be happy until the Spurs have more superstars in their roster than the 92 Dream Team.


    Manu will not make the all star team this year.
    If he plays like he has played these last three games, then you have point. If he plays like he did last year, then he has a chance.

    He should not have made it last year either.
    Spoken like a true Spurs Fan (and a proud fan too)

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    Whoa. That's deep. spurschick's Avatar
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    Vince Carter > Manu

    Carter is the type of player that can take over a game consistently, Manu cannot.
    Only homer spur fans think otherwise.

    Did you not see who started this thread and who all has contributed?! When the Church of Manu starts calling out Saint Ginobili, I think you can throw the word "homer" out. Nobody is denying that Manu isn't playing well.

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    That's your opinion.

    And the opinion of most nba fans other than you and the other homer spur fans.

    How many games did Manu take over in the playoffs last year, when it mattered? How many did VC take over?

    Case closed.

    Case not closed. It is not accurate to compare individule players with team success. Manu plays with Duncan. Carter does not. Exchange Carter with Manu and the spurs still win.

    Do you think if manu was on the Nets the Nets would be better?? Again: Do not compare individule players with team success.



    Last year: No Manu, no le.

    Carter instead of Manu. Spurs still win.

    But hey, its pretty clear you won't be happy until the Spurs have more superstars in their roster than the 92 Dream Team.

    You even now say carter is a superstar. Manu is not.

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    It's the hair.... Samson effect.
    That was my thinking also

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    probaly had sex b4 the game....wobbly legz

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    Whoa. That's deep. spurschick's Avatar
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    Vince Carter
    • Named NBA Rookie of the Year 1998-1999
    • Won Gold Medal at 2000 Olympic Games
    • Selected to NBA All-Star Game 2000-2005
    • Won 2001 Slam Dunk Contest
    • Won 2001 Tournament of Americas with Team USA


    Manu Ginobili
    • Won the Italian League and the Italian Cup in 2000-2001 with Virtus Kinder Bologna
    • Won the Euroleague with Virtus Kinder Bologna in 2000-2001
    • Won the 2001 Tournament of Americas with the Argentina NT
    • Won the Italian Cup with Virtus Kinder Bologna in 2002
    • Won the Silver Medal at the 2002 World Championships with the Argentina NT
    • Won the NBA le with the San Antonio Spurs in 2003 and 2005
    • Won the Gold Medal at the 2004 Olympic Games with the Argentina NT
    • Voted Bosman Player of the Year of the Italian League in 2000
    • Named Finals MVP of the 2000-2001 Euroleague Championship with Virtus Kinder Bologna
    • Named Italian League MVP in 2001
    • Won the Italian League Slam Dunk Contest in 2001
    • Played in the 1999, 2000 and 2001 Italian League All-Star Game
    • Voted 2001 Tournament of Americas MVP
    • Voted All-Tournament Team at the 2002 World Championships
    • Selected to the NBA All-Rookie 2nd Team in 2002-2003
    • Selected to the NBA Rookie All-Star Game in 2003 and 2004
    • Named to the All-Tournament Team at the 2003 Tournament of Americas
    • Named MVP of the 2004 Olympic Games tournament
    • Selected to the NBA All-Star Game in 2005
    • 2005 Nike Baller of the Year

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    It's the hair.... Samson effect.

    !
    And I was pro-hair cut....... now I feel like Judas....

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    His problem is he can't get enough air into his brain with his head so far up his ass.

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    rascal, it's pretty clear your mind will not change.

    Even after Manu's production through the entire playoffs, including the finals, where he lost the MVP le to the true MVP by a slim margin. Even after he took over key elimination games where TP and TD had disappeared and it was solely because of Manu that those games where won. Even after all this, you want to trade Manu.

    And regarding your comment about VC being part of the Spurs in exchange of Manu would've been an automatic championship, well, that's a big hypothetical, tor a fax. So shove it.

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    Whoa. That's deep. spurschick's Avatar
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    It was only the third game. (I don't count the pre-season since a lot of players phoned it in.) While I'm not willing to wait til April for him to get it going, I'm not quite ready to bump him to my fantasy team reserves in favor of Delfino. Let's revisit this topic in a week or two.

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    Ups and downs. That's all.
    I think Manu is upset with himself


    but he will be ok.

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    Just wanted ya'll to know...............


    .........The Church of Tony is always looking for new recruits

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