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It isn't interesting to me that nobody thinks that Rose can start in this league. Next to Duncan, he'd be able to produce about 12 points and 8 boards a game no problem. That is about what you are going to get from a player like PJ Brown, Rasho or even Olowokandi. I don't see the major upside to one of those players that isn't in Rose.
He can play well with Duncan, that is well do ented. He knows how to win. He's been a Spur and will fit into the program.
Look at his numbers while in the starting lineup:
13 games
16.5 PPG
9.2 RPG
.513 FG%
Those are some very solid numbers. If he did that on a consistent basis, the Spurs would waltz to Championship #3.
I say if you can't get Olowokandi to be a token starter, then forget Rasho and the rest and go with Malik.
Start Malik ©
copycat
yeah... i just posted the same thing. sign odom to backup the SF and PF spots. start malik at power forward and duncan at center. get a vet min guy to come in and give you 15 mins of time to back duncan up.
The interior defense will go right down the ter then.
Duncan needs help back there, hence David helped out quite a bit to help him win.
Olowakandi with his shot blocking ability helps Duncan relax a little more on D.
The drop in interior defense will be made up for in the improved perimeter defense. With Rose starting, the Spurs might be able to field the greatest perimeter defensive team since the '93 Bulls.
If Olowakandi expresses an intrest to come
under 8 million a year.
You sign him up. Sign him, then see if Odom will bite.
Odom is injury plagued and a pot head, but who knows, maybe he can turn it around under POP like Jackson did.
timvp,
My concern has never been that Malik couldn't get some points and rebounds.
My concern is that defensively
1) he would give up a lot of O rebounds when his man has 5-6 inches on him
2) he is not a shot blocker
Two very glaring issues in my mind.
AHF
I agree aggie,
teams like Phoenix and Dallas will drive to the hole all night long and scory easy buckets.
You need another shot blocker in the post to compliment Ducan to prevent that.
IF the Spurs can't get a solid big, then I'd hope Malik would start at the 4 and they pick up Odom. Having a versatile guy like Odom on the team would make up for the lack of interior D. But I know that right this second, the Spurs acquisition priority is a big man.
As a starter, he averaged close to a block a game. That is about as much as you'd get from a PJ Brown/Juwan Howard/Brad Miller type anyways.
He gives up some offensive rebounds, but he's overall a very good rebounder. His height doesn't really play a factor.
Spurs fans like to be hard on Malik because he isn't Robinson or Duncan.
Memo: those two are Hall of Famers.
P.S.
There is a reason the Lakers offered him their full MLE for six years last off-season.
if malik is such a bad defender why do we always see him on shaq? why is everyone on our team always praising him?
ahf... i second all those thoughts. but if you can't find a bigman worth spending money on... go for the weird. its no stranger than the idea some had that kidd and parker could play well together, you know?
i like kandi as an option. i think he'd fit. i think he'd get better under the system, or at least, put out the same numbers (which would be good enough)
but if he's not what the spurs are looking for... i'd rather chance odom, than spend money on a rasho. i'd rather start malik (who is woefully undersized as a starter) than do that.
Rose averaged 13.6 points per game in the last 36 games of the season. And that was in under 30 minutes a game.
Numbers don't lie.
Start Malik©
I wouldn't mind starting Malik, but then we'd still need a couple good guys to back him and Tim up since we'd be losing him as a decent back-up.
from your lips to gods ears or whatever... cause thats looking like best case and not worst case scenario now. i'll say it again... if no one has love for the kandiman, then start malik and get odom to backup the 3 and 4. willis could be our backup center at the vet min... we could still go after someone else (after signing odom) maybe resign speedy.IF the Spurs can't get a solid big, then I'd hope Malik would start at the 4 and they pick up Odom. Having a versatile guy like Odom on the team would make up for the lack of interior D. But I know that right this second, the Spurs acquisition priority is a big man.
I'd rather do that than blow money on somebody like Rasho.
Robert Horry.get a vet min guy to come in and give you 15 mins of time to back duncan up.
robert horry would be cool, but ideally you'd want a big thick guy... a guy like willis that would only come in for duncan at center (since odom would come in for malik and bowen)
but ideally you'd want a big thick guy
madefromdust would appreciate it if we signed this guy
timvp,
I guess my point defensively is where teams feared to go inside this year against the Towers, there would be no such fear with 6'5" Malik Rose patrolling the middle.
And further, Dikembe exposed in the playoffs how to get into Malik's head, something that will find it's way into opposing scouting reports.
I saw too many times this year where a guy would simply out-jump Rose for balls, and we already have problems giving up too many O rebounds to other teams. This problem would only get worse with Rose starting.
I guess the lesser evil is to go after Kandi, but we really need to have some length inside.
I suppose I could live with Rose inside if we also had Odom at 6'10" around to help out.
AHF
The Spurs can sign Willis, Horry, and Campbell and wait for Brand next year. If TD plays 40 mins and Rose plays 30, then there are 26 minutes for the others, mainly Horry. Use Willis and Campbell when you need big guys.
I posted that on a per minute basis, Rose was as good as Brad Miller (he only gets 7 minutes less and his overall numbers are nearly as good). Some ignorant people balked at the suggestion.13 games
16.5 PPG
9.2 RPG
.513 FG%
I would rather do this than even think about Brad Miller, who averages the same bpg as Malik despite getting more minutes.
Rose is short but he plays big. During that stretch of the season where Robinson was hurt, Rose played big and was an instrumental part to our success.
Signing Odom or Kandi or Both would not be a bad plan.
ATTENTION TIMVP.
ACCORDING TO MY COPY OF Basketball for Spurs Fans©2003 DG, Inc. ALL POWER FORWARDS MUST BE 6'10" OR TALLER.
MALIK ROSE IS 6'7" TALL SO HE CANNOT BE CONSIDERED TO BE A "POWER FORWARD."
IMO.
[/sarcasm]
DG, INC...lmao
Whether Malik starts is beside the point. This team is still short 1 big man.
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