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tony is faster than arenas!!!
Spurs' Parker trying to catch Wizards' Arenas
San Antonio Express-News
You can start a hot debate by declaring the Wizards' Gilbert Arenas the fastest player in the NBA, as I did a little more than a week ago.
The Spurs' Tony Parker, for one, might question your sanity, not to mention the Hornets' Speedy Claxton. And then there is the Bucks' T.J. Ford, whose spinal injury doesn't appear to have affected his quickness even a fraction of a step.
There is not much debate when it comes to the relative shooting merits of Arenas and Parker. Arenas has the clear edge, which explains why he, not Parker, has been to the All-Star Game.
Parker went back to basics this summer in an attempt to correct the flaws that have allowed defenders to play off him on the perimeter. He re-tooled his shot under the tutelage of the Spurs' new "shot doctor," Chip Engelland.
Arenas was able to work this summer on the subtleties of his perimeter game, the "in-between" game, which is defined by Wizards general manager Ernie Grunfeld as "the two-dribble pull-up." His catch-and-shoot ability from 3-point range already was solid, but he spent lots of time on that, too.
Arenas is the primary reason the Wizards go into their home game against the Clippers as one of only three teams that made it through the first week of the regular season without a loss. His scoring average of 26 points per game ranks ninth in the league. He and Wizards forward Antawn Jamison combine for a scoring average of 50 points per game, one of only three duos in the league at 50 or more. Parker (22.5) and Tim Duncan (20.5), average 43.
Grunfeld knows his team, which advanced to the Eastern Conference semifinals last season before being swept by the Heat, has a chance to be one of East's top four teams if it can survive the first half in decent shape. After making some major roster changes designed to grow both bigger and tougher, the Wizards are still learning about one another. Their new roster also puts them in a group of three Eastern teams just a notch below the East's Big Three, the Pistons, Pacers and Heat. Washington's goal is to beat the Nets and the Cavs to home-court advantage in the first round of this season's playoffs. Arenas' continuing maturation is vital to that end.
To entice Arenas away from the Warriors in the summer of 2004 Grunfeld had to give him a contract worth $64 million over six seasons. At the time, it looked like a contract out of line with what Arenas had done in his short career. Now it looks like a smart deal for both parties.
"He's grown by leaps and bounds," Grunfeld said of Arenas. "He's an elite player in the league now and he's only 23 years old. He has a burning desire to compete and continue to improve. He's not afraid to put in the extra time that it takes to get better."
Arenas' contract also looked like a benchmark deal to Parker, who was taken with the penultimate pick of the first round of the 2001 draft, three spots ahead of Arenas, the second pick of the second round. Parker convinced the Spurs to give him $66 million over six years, largely because of what Grunfeld had given Arenas.
Grunfeld says Arenas and Antawn Jamison are the Wizards' unquestioned leaders; that Arenas has taken on an even greater leadership role already this season. Parker is doing the same thing with the Spurs, though his leadership status is defined less clearly than Arenas' because of the presence of Duncan and Manu Ginobili, both older, both All-Stars already.
Only one member of the draft class of 2001 has been an All-Star: second-rounder Arenas. Thus, there is no debate about one thing: When the Spurs and Wizards hook up Saturday at Washington's MCI Center, Parker will have added motivation to prove that he, like Arenas, belongs in the mid-season showcase of the league's best players.
And if Parker can use his quickness to consistently get past Arenas and into the paint, well, he also can prove that anyone who believes Arenas is faster is a fool.
tony is faster than arenas!!!
"consistently get past Arenas'
Being fastest on offense is a lot easier that being fast enough on defense to counter.
Being fastest is only for offense, not defense. If Tony's offense gets past Gilbert's defense, it doesn't mean Tony is fastest.
arenas is just a better version of ben gordon, a ballhog, parker will make run him down
This will be a great game to watch because it will showcase two of the best young guards in the NBA.
I expect TP to come out loaded for bear. I just hope he doesn't press too much to show his scoring ability vs. Arenas.
I'd take Arenas over Parker any day of the week!
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Last edited by Mr. Peabody; 08-23-2011 at 06:52 PM.
I had an interest in the Spurs picking up Arenas since early his second year. Preferred Areans to Kidd. That said I've watched Arenas through the years A LOT. Two things about Arenas: 1) Parker has consistently outplayed Arenas whenever they've matched up and 2) Arenas makes bad decisions particulary in critical situations, trying to do way too much himself. After four years I'd take Parker and his decison making over Arenas.
Parker can thank the verbal abuse he got from Pop for his decision making.
Wow! I did not know Arenas was only 23.
yea me neither! I always thought he was older, around 27/28.
I think Arenas has a better, more consistent game that Parker, but he's too much of a ball hog and bad decision maker during crunch times. To me, Arenas has always seemed more of a SG than a PG.
There is no way Arenas can be faster than Parker.
I have not seen Arenas play that much; but, on the occasions I have, he did not appear to be faster than TP. It will be an interesting matchup.
Because it's early in the season, now is the time for TP to make a statement as to where he stands among the NBA's elite point guards.
I even think Pop would like to see him go off on some of the better point guards in the league.
statements, Spurs aren't about personal statements and accomplishments and pissing matches. Just win the game.
Spurs lost @WAS last season, the reason everybody else said was that Tim didn't play, even though Wizards were a weak EC, low-playoff team. They have more pretensions this year, but have started weakly. Payback time.
exactly. Like I said before. Glad Tony is doing super, but he better not forget to involve the other teammates. and better not become an Arenas type point-guard. Arenas is awesome, but will never win a championship playing that way.
I think Parker has done quite well in distributing the rock in the Spurs' offense. Expecting him to dominate the rock and put up 9+ assists a night is quite unrealistic.
To say Arenas is the fastest player in the league is a joke. The guy is a very good shooter and he's big and strong for a point guard, but he's not that fast. He has about average speed for a point guard. Many players, not just Parker, are much, much faster.
And the head-to-head comparison between the two players isn't close. In their careers, Parker has owned Arenas. According to the scholar timvp in this thread, this is how they stack up when playing against each other:
OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS
Tony Parker
17.8 points per game
6.5 assists per game
5.3 rebounds per game
54.7% from the floor
1.5 turnovers per game
30.3 minutes per game
Gilbert Arenas
13.8 points per game
2.3 assists per games
4.5 rebounds per game
24.4% from the floor
2 turnovers per game
36.3 minutes per game
The grass is always greener...
Have u ever seen Arenas play??? he is damn fast, not the fastest yes I agree, and not faster than Paker but he is up there. He is also not a great shooter, he just takes many, many shots.
He's fast but 95% of point guards are considered fast. I could name plenty of players in the league faster than him.
Who said he was a great shooter?He is also not a great shooter, he just takes many, many shots.
You said he was average speed PG and good shooter.
I think he is a top 10 fastest PG and average shooter. I've seen him play many many times live. I agree on TV you can't tell how fast a guy really is. Arenas is super fast beleive me.
Tony Parker
Chris Paul
Marcus Banks
Devin Harris
Leandro Barbosa
TJ Ford
Allen Iverson
Nate Robinson
Speedy Claxton
Keyon Dooling
Raymond Felton
Tyronn Lue
Jannero Pargo
Earl Boykins
That's off the top of my head and they are all faster than Arenas.
Apology Accepted.
Oh and last year he was 205-for-562 on three-pointers. That is a little better than an "average" shooter.
you gotta be kiddin, Tyron Lue??? maybe if Arenas is on crutches.
same about Pargo
Apology by timvp Accepted by NKD
Tyronn Lue is lightning fast. Have you ever seen him play?
And even if I give you Lue, there's still 13 other players on the list.
Oops.
Stick to soccer.
Nice edit. Pargo is even faster than Lue.
And if I give you both, there are 12 others on the list.
Futbol.
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