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    Get out if you want Sharia law, Australia tells Muslims

    CANBERRA: Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia, as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks. A day after a group of mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty to Australia at a special meeting with Prime Minister John Howard, he and his ministers made it clear that extremists would face a crackdown.

    Treasurer Peter Costello, seen as heir apparent to Howard, hinted that some radical clerics could be asked to leave the country if they did not accept that Australia was a secular state and its laws were made by parliament. "If those are not your values, if you want a country which has Sharia law or a theocratic state, then Australia is not for you," he said on national television. "I'd be saying to clerics who are teaching that there are two laws governing people in Australia, one the Australian law and another the Islamic law, that is false If you can't agree with parliamentary law, independent courts, democracy, and would prefer Sharia law and have the opportunity to go to another country which practises it, perhaps, then, that's a better option," Costello said. Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave, he said those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked move to the other country.

    Education Minister Brendan Nelson later told reporters that Muslims who did not want to accept local values should "clear off". "Basically, people who don't want to be Australians, and they don't want to live by Australian values and understand them, well then they can basically clear off," he said. Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spies monitoring the nation's mosques.

    AMERICANS.....ARE YOU LISTENING! ? and reading?

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    The Ozzies and Kiwis are some tough, macho bas s.
    I fully support this tactic.

    However, where in America are radical Muslim clerics preaching installation of Sharia in the USA?

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    The Ozzies and Kiwis are some tough, macho bas s.
    I fully support this tactic.

    However, where in America are radical Muslim clerics preaching installation of Sharia in the USA?
    to be a true muslim you have to support the installation of Sharia Law. At least that's my understanding.

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    I guess they can go to Iraq.

    Are you guys against their cons ution too?

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    I guess they can go to Iraq.

    Are you guys against their cons ution too?
    Nope!

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    I guess they can go to Iraq.

    Are you guys against their cons ution too?
    they can do whatever they want in Iraq, it's their country.

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    they can do whatever they want in Iraq, it's their country.
    It's only their country when the US leaves or at least stops doing all their dirty work.

    I can agree with the Aussie, but it should have been more like. If you want to live in our country, you live by our laws. If you don't like our laws, work for change within the rules of our democracy.

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    to be a true muslim you have to support the installation of Sharia Law. At least that's my understanding.
    My Muslim co-worker disagrees.

    AMERICANS.....ARE YOU LISTENING! ? and reading?
    I'm not aware of any strong Muslim separatist movement in the United States. Our Muslim population practices and enjoys the freedoms and privileges of our society and way of life much like any other citizen.

    A better contrast would be with countries like the Netherlands and Sweden who have taken multiculturalism off the deep end, and won't even stand up for democracy and human rights in their own societies because that would be a racist imposition of their values on different cultures.

    Or something.

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    My Muslim co-worker disagrees.


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    Sharia is perfect according to the Koran and something all muslims should aspire to.

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    Personally, I don't think any orthodox religion can survive in a truly secular state. I see this as the reason that most of the fun-dumb-entalists of the various religions are tearing down science and want to push us backwards. With the ability to look beyond the next day's work and food, people look at religion and are astounded that it's nothing more than another power trip, and they opt out.

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    ^that doesnt explain why people are commiting themselves to religion more than ever since the late 90's.

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    However, where in America are radical Muslim clerics preaching installation of Sharia in the USA?
    Pick a mosque.

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    ^that doesnt explain why people are commiting themselves to religion more than ever since the late 90's.
    ^^^ Has nothing to do with the subject at hand, but like that happens when your brain is built upon "talking points."

    But since you brought it up, care to enlighten us and tell us why people are committing themselves to religion, at rates not seen since the late 90s?

    Inquiring minds want to know.

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    Pick a Southern Baptist congregation.

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    Because it has nothing to do with politics or talking points. Time magazine ran many stories on the rise of religion amongst youth. THe young and old, People in general are experimenting with different type of religions and some are committing to their first faith.
    ONe main reason for peoples inclination to faith is that the american individual is going through so many problems personally than before. Society is not genous and one needs to find one's self nowadays now more than ever.
    People want answers to many of our problems and they are leaving the comfort of materialism and finding solace in faith. Also there has been strong campaigning on the part of protestant baptist and evangelicals to bring morality back to the household. There is a growing christian market for all types of music and literature. Other faiths are picking up on this marketing. Also since this is the info age many people are learning new things outside of their parents and minister. In the eightees one did not see bible studies held early in the mornings before school started.

    But ofcourse, your the Guru of Nothing and your name gives off your insight. Happy to help you anytime.

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    Pick a Southern Baptist congregation.
    I dont hear the baptist advocating death to the infidels and rising up a theocracy. Your obviously to stupid to recognize the difference. The baptist only preach personal relationships with christ and a personal moral code. Baptist are not building communes where they install biblical laws like muslims in Europe.

    But ofcourse there goes another customer lost to Ditech.

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    People want answers to many of our problems and they are leaving the comfort of materialism and finding solace in faith.
    ... yet

    There is a growing christian market for all types of music and literature. Other faiths are picking up on this marketing.
    I must say, I do feel enlightened.

    Thank you.

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    Its materialism in the sense of wanting to purchase the best clotheline rather than purchasing something like a book that will open your mind or music that soothes oneself. You know the stuff you can't flaunt. When was the last time you saw someone carry a KJV bible like a Dolce Cabana purse?

    I don't need to enlightened you. You can't fool anyone with hot glueing glitter on a dim bulb.

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    When was the last time you saw someone carry a KJV bible like a Dolce Cabana purse?
    Well duh! That's because the person toting the fancy purse about is the one who SOLD the KJV bible.

    Pay attention!

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    Please inform me where hot chicks sell bibles. Maybe at a yacht party someone is bragging of how they own a private island of the explosive sales from all the Veggie tales and Carmen dvds.

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    Please inform me where hot chicks sell bibles.
    So, all the hot chicks are buying bibles? That too would explain matters.

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    ^you'd think if that were so then you'd have a drop in pregnancy rates. But you do.. Ofcourse, it's not for that reason.

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    ^you'd think if that were so then you'd have a drop in pregnancy rates. But you do.. Ofcourse, it's not for that reason.
    Ducks, a little help please.

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    anyway, i provided reason that religion is making a comeback in our society. All the lame jokes aside. I did my job.

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    anyway, i provided reason that religion is making a comeback in our society. All the lame jokes aside. I did my job.
    I guess you did not recognize my sincerity when I thanked you.

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