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So hakeem dominated david, so what... I think this has to be the third or fourth thread I've seen about this.
This really isn't the appropriate place to post this, and it's definitely not worth it's own thread, but I was taking a trip down memory lane today and found this break-down of the 1995 WCF:
# Game 1: Olajuwon: 27 pts - Robinson 21 pts
# Game 2: Olajuwon: 41 pts - Robinson 32 pts
# Game 3: Olajuwon: 43 pts - Robinson 29 pts
# Game 4: Olajuwon: 20 pts - Robinson 20 pts
# Game 5: Olajuwon: 42 pts - Robinson 22 pts
# Game 6: Olajuwon: 39 pts - Robinson 19 pts
Dream: 35.3 ppg
DRob: 23.7 ppg
Wow. I was only 14 when these games were played and didn't know much about basketball, and I have just a vague memory of the pounding that DRob took at the hands of Dream, but that comparison really solidified it for me.
Said Sean Elliott: "It was the most dominating performance by a player that I was ever witness to. But I blame our marketing department. Hakeem had won the MVP award the previous year, and felt he deserved it in 1995. David won it, and it was announced right before our series started. The first game was in San Antonio, and they put together a tape with a collage of great Robinson plays. I found out later that the tape (and the naming of Robinson as MVP) spurred Olajuwon to new heights. Olajuwon was just unstoppable. But it wasn’t just David’s fault. Dennis was intent on getting every rebound, but he wouldn’t come out and guard anyone. That’s why Robert Horry killed us in that series. Dennis wouldn’t guard him! That doesn’t take anything away from Hakeem in the series. He was just awesome."
Elliot Kalb wrote: "I can’t find a more dominating performance against a league MVP on a superior team in the postseason. In the last two games, Hakeem outscored Robinson 81-41."
So hakeem dominated david, so what... I think this has to be the third or fourth thread I've seen about this.
What did Amare Stoudamire average against us in the playoffs?
Good to see you're still alive.
50 is better.
Game 1 - Stoudemire: 41 Duncan: 28
Game 2 - Stoudemire: 37 Duncan: 30
Game 3 - Stoudemire: 34 Duncan: 33
Game 4 - Stoudemire: 31 Duncan: 15
Game 5 - Stoudemire: 42 Duncan: 31
Stoudemire: 38.2 ppg
Duncan: 27.4 ppg
So I guess Duncan took a beating just like DRob did. Only difference was which team won the series.
The spurs are better. You might as well admit it. Olajuwon was nothing and Robinson was everything. These homers would not understand Olajuwon>Robinson.
Olajuwon's play was otherworldly that season.
Good for him.
And Duncan and Olajuwon both had Robert Horry...Robert Horry who just so happened to hit the game winner in game 1...As Sean Elliott mentioned, Robert Horry killed the Spurs in that series.
Amare Stoudamire is only 22 years old...he has never won a championship, he has never won league MVP, much less post season MVP...Hakeem Olajuwon OTOH, well he was already quite accomplished in that series, more experienced than Drob...The Spurs were not a defensive team at all that season, while the Rockets were. The Spurs were most definitely a defensive team last season, while the Suns...
Plenty of differences but if you just want to look at PPG, what Amare did, and who he did it against, was more impressive.
I'll let people get back to the DRob hating...
Hakeem Olajuwon
Vernon Maxwell
Kenny Smith
Sam Cassell
Clyde Drexler
Mario Elie
Robert Horry
Otis Thorpe
Carl Herrera
In retrospect, that's an awfully good team. It was also nice that Hakeem got to rest on the injured list toward the end of the season. He was clearly fresher than anyone he faced in the playoffs.
Olajuwon was worlds better than David Robinson. Don't even kid yourselves.
There was a plan in place, and every player was on board except you know who. They were going to cover the shooters, and let Hakeem get whatever he could, single covered. Obviously, with Rodman's head up his patoot, the first part didn't happen, and a post season star (Horry) was born. Houston had pretty much the diametrically opposed plan: clog the middle, and make the Spurs shooters beat you. At that time, it was a good plan, and it worked. There really wasn't a good, clutch playoff 3 point shooter on the roster. Avery never could shoot, Vinnie had only a mid range shot, which was easy to double off of, and Sean was not yet The Ninja. We were in the Mavs role, and Houston was the Spurs of their day. They were a better team.
I admire DRob, as much as i admire Hakeem, both are my fav players, but ChumpD's right, in that postseason, Hakeem was like a possessed man, i even dare to say that not even Jordan in his best day could stop Hakeem that yr
whott hates duncan
I've had enough of your act. Why don't you go away? Meet me at the HEB on Military and Zarzamora, I want to show you something.
You can't handle the truth so you get bitter.
Otis Thorpe was traded for Drexler in midseason, and Vernon Maxwell was kicked off the team during their first-round series with Utah.
even though this is the millionth time this topic has been posted, still would like to chip in my 2 cents.
As a diehard Robinson fan, I have to say that he was destroyed by the Rockets as a whole in that series. He was routinely double, or even tripled teamed, and given that Rodman wasn't doing anything, both offensively and defensively, I was surprised that the series actually went 6 games. The Spurs were the better team if they chose to play together, and the fact that Hakeem and Horry played out of their minds, and the Spurs still mannered to have a very compe ive 6 games shows that. People kept talking about how Hakeem averaged 35 pts in the series with Robinson singling him throughout the series, yet they fail mention that Hakeem managed to average 33 pts in the next series with Shaq and Grant doubling him.
I agree, not to take anything away from Hakeem but David score over 20 on double teams while Hakeem had a chance to go one on one offensively against DRob, DRob never received help and was a capable center on offense himself even though he never had the arsenal of offensive weapons as Hakeem he could be formiable before the back injury.
Exstatic, nice post as usual.
I have to chip in on this too.
I am a HUGE fan of David - , I dropped my life and came to SA in 2003 to see him play before he retired. However, I think Hakeem was a better player overall, especially in the mid-90s. Hakeem had the greatest low post game ever seen (some might argue for Kareem or McHale, or a bunch of others, but IMHO Hakeem was the man), and was at least David's equal on all other fronts. I think Hakeem was just a little better than DRob. Having said that, David OWNED every other centre in the league, including Shaq, until his back went.
However, Hakeem also had better teams to play with! David had Avery, Sean, a disruptive Rodman, Big Dawg Carr, and that was about it. Hakeem had well constructed teams of role players surrounding him, especially in 94-5, and coaching continuity which David never had.
Glad David got his rings in 1999 and 2003. He definitely finished off his career better than Hakeem, even through the injuries, and those 16 (17?) rebounds in game 6 against the Nets was a fitting end.
D-Rob: 13 points, 17 rebounds, 2 blocks and 1 assist
TD: 21 points, 20 rebounds, 8 blocks and 10 assists
Those numbers are engraved in my mind.
And I agree with Ruff that Hakeem has the upside over David.
2 of the greatest to ever play the game.
I was at a regular season game in Houston when David in 95 dropped 53 on Hakeem, believed that helped also fuel Hakeems great playoff series.
That being said I do believe that overall David was as within a fraction of being as good as Hakeem, because he normally was at least as good as a defender and quicker.
I think the difference was that at least early in his career, Hakeem just wanted it more than David, but athletically David could do as much or more than Hakeem.
Too bad they are not still battling at each other!
We had RODMAN.
Who didn't care to play hard.
DRob was doubled and trip teamed every time he touched it.
Houston had a better team, more rounded out anyways.
Despite the crap DRob gets. Why dont YOU put up those numbers being teamed like that, against Hakeem.
Shaq did what? Ha.
I just want to say....
I in love your sig.
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