With tonight’s win, the Spurs win total now equals last year’s

[Dejounte]

Not really what anyone predicted at the start of the season.

[Chinook]

Does it account for the 10 fewer games? Like sure, I agree that it's been nice seeing the team find offense after losing so many PPG. Murray being an All-Star, Johnson becoming a knock-down shooter and Walker showing a nice stretch are definite highlights. But I would still say last year's Spurs were comfortably better than this years' edition on the whole. With that said, last year's team absolutely limped into the play-in and deservedly lost to a much hungier Grizzlies team. The year's team has a chance to go into the game with momentum and hopefully advance.

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Not really what anyone predicted at the start of the season.

I'd actually like to have a refresh on that prediction thread. Don't remember exactly but I think I predicted like 30 or 35 wins. Pretty much right between that now.

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Does it account for the 10 fewer games? Like sure, I agree that it's been nice seeing the team find offense after losing so many PPG. Murray being an All-Star, Johnson becoming a knock-down shooter and Walker showing a nice stretch are definite highlights. But I would still say last year's Spurs were comfortably better than this years' edition on the whole. With that said, last year's team absolutely limped into the play-in and deservedly lost to a much hungier Grizzlies team. The year's team has a chance to go into the game with momentum and hopefully advance.

You just reminded me how much I dislike playing against Dylan Brooks.

[Dejounte]

(If you did predict it, kudos to you. Majority believed the team would be at the bottom of the standings)

[HemisfairArena]

The last few seasons have shown Pop obviously is NOT the Goat.

[mo7888]

Does it account for the 10 fewer games? Like sure, I agree that it's been nice seeing the team find offense after losing so many PPG. Murray being an All-Star, Johnson becoming a knock-down shooter and Walker showing a nice stretch are definite highlights. But I would still say last year's Spurs were comfortably better than this years' edition on the whole. With that said, last year's team absolutely limped into the play-in and deservedly lost to a much hungier Grizzlies team. The year's team has a chance to go into the game with momentum and hopefully advance.

To answer your question...33-39 last year....so same win total with 10 fewer games...

[Arcadian]

I thought they'd be slightly better than last year, a borderline playoff/playin team.

[R. DeMurre]

Looks like Adam Silver's play-in tournament is doing what it set out to do by keeping more teams interested in winning and more fans involved late in the season... In the past, being the 10th seed, 5 games behind the 8th seed with 4 games to go, meant the fanbase would essentially be saying "oh well, there's always next year." Now instead, everyone's fully engaged, hoping for some play-in upsets, and bragging about finishing ahead of the Lakers.

[KingKev]

I’ll admit I had the under on 30 and they will probably exceed my expectations by 10 games when all said and done but let’s not get ahead of ourselves here we were a bottom 6-7 team for almost the entire season and some of the ground we made was due to other teams full out tanking.

This season had alot of positive takeaways but we are still a long ways away from a true playoff team.

[The Truth #6]

I was thinking around 32-34 wins at the beginning of the season, in part because I was blaming a lot on DDR's presence, but for the majority of this season, 32-34 wins didn't look possible. Tanking and the lack of McBuckets/arrival of Josh Richardson probably played a role, with tanking the more obvious one as KingKev mentions.

[Seventyniner]

Looks like Adam Silver's play-in tournament is doing what it set out to do by keeping more teams interested in winning and more fans involved late in the season... In the past, being the 10th seed, 5 games behind the 8th seed with 4 games to go, meant the fanbase would essentially be saying "oh well, there's always next year." Now instead, everyone's fully engaged, hoping for some play-in upsets, and bragging about finishing ahead of the Lakers.

Teams have an incentive to tank hard once they fall out of contention for the playoffs. The play-in pushes that point much further out for several teams.

[duncan2k5]

Not really what anyone predicted at the start of the season.

Not true... Last season I said we would be better without DeRozan

[duncan2k5]

I’ll admit I had the under on 30 and they will probably exceed my expectations by 10 games when all said and done but let’s not get ahead of ourselves here we were a bottom 6-7 team for almost the entire season and some of the ground we made was due to other teams full out tanking.

This season had alot of positive takeaways but we are still a long ways away from a true playoff team.

Teams were tanking last year too

[KingKev]

Not true... Last season I said we would be better without DeRozan

Even if we win out we aren’t better than last year when adjusting for games played.

[John B]

Not true... Last season I said we would be better without DeRozan

I think everybody agreed it would be more fun to watch without Demar (and the vets) and just watching the young guys work. But nobody expected them to be on a play in.

[MultiTroll]

Please don't let the #7 or #8 draft order get the #1 overall.
Or 2. Or 3.

[Dex]

I think I put them at 32 which they have surpassed, thinking we end with 34 at this point.

[R. DeMurre]

Last year's record was 33-39 for a .458 win percentage. This year it's 33-45 and a .423 winning percentage.

Losing DeRozan had very little effect, especially since a bunch of his minutes were taken by McDermott, whose overall impact has been a disaster.

[KingKev]

Last year's record was 33-39 for a .458 win percentage. This year it's 33-45 and a .423 winning percentage.

Losing DeRozan had very little effect, especially since a bunch of his minutes were taken by McDermott, whose overall impact has been a disaster.

It’s nice to see Spurs fans come around to how garbage McLovin actually is.

[itzsoweezee]

I thought they'd be slightly better than last year, a borderline playoff/playin team.

Same. My point was that the spurs didn’t lose much with Demar’s departure

[MannyIsGod]

Not really what anyone predicted at the start of the season.

Uh, I think most rational win estimates were ~34.

[MannyIsGod]

Last year's record was 33-39 for a .458 win percentage. This year it's 33-45 and a .423 winning percentage.

Losing DeRozan had very little effect, especially since a bunch of his minutes were taken by McDermott, whose overall impact has been a disaster.

The best five man lineup since the trade deadline includes McDermott. Hardly a disaster.

https://www.nba.com/stats/lineups/ad...sort=MIN&dir=1


Jakob, McDermott, Keldon, Vassal, and DJM - 120 minutes total over 9 games with a net rating of +8.5


Simply replacing him with Josh Richardson is still pretty good, but slightly worse. Replacing him with Primo is a statistical disaster making them ~11 points worse overall.

[MannyIsGod]

I think everybody agreed it would be more fun to watch without Demar (and the vets) and just watching the young guys work. But nobody expected them to be on a play in.

Where do you guys get these narratives from? I saw a lot of mid 30 win projections and I know that models like RAPTOR had them at this point from the get go. Looking at the initial RAPTOR projection had them at 36 wins and a 1/5 chance at the playoffs. I remember posting on here that this teams most likely outcome was a mid 30s win total and an outside shot at reaching .500 ball. This is almost exactly who the Spurs were projected to be this season.

[MannyIsGod]

Does it account for the 10 fewer games? Like sure, I agree that it's been nice seeing the team find offense after losing so many PPG. Murray being an All-Star, Johnson becoming a knock-down shooter and Walker showing a nice stretch are definite highlights. But I would still say last year's Spurs were comfortably better than this years' edition on the whole. With that said, last year's team absolutely limped into the play-in and deservedly lost to a much hungier Grizzlies team. The year's team has a chance to go into the game with momentum and hopefully advance.

I think if you played both end of year teams against each other they'd be pretty close. Last year's team has the advantage of being able to go to Demar at the end of games, but the improvement for everyone else beyond that this year is pretty sizable.