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Nope Jason has good stats... there are like a million other players that have worse record. Jason just made a single bad decision that kept the ring off his finger. Dumb is not overrated....
For me it is Jason Kidd. It seems like everyone is talking about how great he is on tv but I am not impressed. He can't play in the half court due to his lack of shooting skills. He continues to take them even though he sucks at that.
Nope Jason has good stats... there are like a million other players that have worse record. Jason just made a single bad decision that kept the ring off his finger. Dumb is not overrated....
Two finals appearances, top 10 in assist's all time, 4th all time per game, named NBA first team 5 times, first team defensive 4 times. Get the out of here! Jason Kidd makes others around him better. Just ask K Mart. How many times have the Mavs been to the Finals lately? Ummmmm they haven't.
Yeah Kidd never won a championship and I thought Kenyon Martin was a big part of why New Jersey was so tough. That and the spurs couldn't hit any shots. I believe Bowen really struggled in that series.
Yao Ming.. now that's over rated. But he's a nice guy just saying big is not everything.
Chris Webber. Never made the big shot, always blew them. Never came through when it counted.
Yeah but alot of people say that anyway. He is nothing without Mcgrady who he feeds off on the picnroll.
Bill Russell
allen iverson
Vince Carter
How is that possible?
He was basically Ben Wallace. I would even argue that Big Ben is more athletic. Granted, Russell was the irreplaceable piece to all those championships. Back in those days, big men like him were few and far between.
But many experts consider him the greatest player of all-time. I have heard and read this so many times, I think it's laughable. He was arguably the greatest defensive player of all-time but his offensive skills were limited. He played great on only one end of the floor.
If you look at all the hall of fame players he played with, you will understand that he was a great role player on the greatest collection of players ever assembled.
I am half way through John Feinsteins' book, "Let Me Tell You a Story." The real genius behind the Celtics was Red Auerbach. He was one shrewd basketball mind that took advantage of every situation to gain leverage for the Celtics. He negotiated contracts, networked with people who gave him the inside track on talent, and used groundbreaking tactics that revolutionized the game.
Don't get me wrong. I think Russell is one of the greats of the game. I just don't think he's a top ten player of all time, much less the greatest of all time.
Yes but he was a team player.
Some can say that if you trade Chamberlain with Russell you have the same efect.
Cousy is saying that probably one championship with Wilt would be possible.
The thing is Rusell have got 11 ringng Chamberlain one.
Wiltv wasn't alone as well playing with Cunningham, Greer, Chet walker, Elgin baylor, Jerry West, Goodrich. Come on. I know that is was not the kind of dynasty Boston was but you have got to admitt 11-2 says something.
People do not like the team players because they don't put up big numbers. They respect them okay. But in todays world superstar must have statistics.
If you ask me I'm taking Russell over any center in the history of the NBA
I agree with you that Wilt may not have fit into Boston's system very well. Red actually talks about Wilt in the book I referenced. He thought Wilt would not be able to handle his coaching style because Red was like Pop. He would chew out guys from the beginning of the bench to the end of the bench if they weren't playing well.
Red built his team around Russell because he knew Russell was the defensive juggernaut that he needed to win championships.
I still think you replace Ben Wallace with Russell and you win several championships. Probably Mutombo would have worked well enough to win a few les. Absolutely David Robinson and Hakeem Olajuwon would have worked. The problem with Dave and Hakeem would have been the temptation for Red to use them as the focal point offensively which might have stymied the development of the other hall of famers.
Tracy Mcgrady, he doesn't make the people around him better, hes never been out of the first round, who can forget when they were up two game to zero against boston I believe, and he goes on to say that it was great to be in the second round. And he goes to lose three games in a row. Hes always has back problems, and I see his career ending short.
It's not the temperation.
You know leaguge was what it was . Then
It is not a sytuacion when you teleport a player of 2005 to the sixties and he would be a great force.
back then Red knew he need the defensive force like you are said. In the first full NBA season thy won a championship with Russell and Heihnson as a rookies. Boston gave up two HOF and won the championship
Two years when Bill didn't won was the Chamberlains Sixers and St'Louis with Pet t (Russell had an injury that Finals series).
He was a fantastic compe or. If you ask those HOF they all will tell you that Russell was the main reason they won.
BTW Cousy said that Bill was better ofensive player than people think. It was just Auerbach who told him not to go so much in the ofense.
I know if you put peaces in right place it is easier but check out the spurs, Tims numbers KG numbers and tell me who is more worthy. (Not james)
Ps. Sory for my English)
Kobe Bryant
Shaquille O'neal
Rasho?
Yeh same, im also having doubts if his any better then nash, kidds career started off good but his play is starting to decline since he had that knee injury and the signin of that max contract. Nash's career was overshadow due to trades, slow starts in career, playin on a mavs teams and havin no D to his game, now playin on the suns and livin up to his contract with impresssive stats and makin the suns compete even without STAT.
Disagree.
Rusell won two NCAA les, an Olympic gold medal, and two NBA les WITHOUT Auerbach. You ignore these accomplishment, which serves to only cement Russell's legacy.
Auerbach won NOTHING in his 10+ years before Russell got there.
I couldnt resist taking the bait....
Dirk Nowitzki.
/joke
Good call, Shooga.
They also didn't win again for 5 years after he left.Auerbach won NOTHING in his 10+ years before Russell got there.
Antone Walker. Hands down.
Eddy Curry.
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