I see alot of people wanted to involve KJ in a trade scenerio to add another lottery pick. How do yall feel about his ceiling? Is there still room for improvement or is this as good as he’s gonna get? Sorry if there is already and open thread on this my search feature is disabled.
I think we’ve hit it, which is not a knock. The best role for him is super sub off the bench in my view.
It’s to be seen if he accepts that in SA, but it would amazing if he did, since it would clear up a potential log jam at the 3.
Jones-Vassel-Sochan-Wemby-Collins
he's only 23 right? what player reaches their ceiling at 23? we still have 4-5 years before he gets there
Keldon is the best player available who can easily be replaced by other players on the team.
his ceiling is good trade asset
if wemby is what we think he is, and if vassell continues his trajectory, we dont need a guy who can score 20 clunky points while not being a playmaker and then give up 20 on the other end, or at least we dont need a guy like that to be a starter. he's not THAT far from what we'd need. if he was a more consistent shooter and just an average defender, like tobias harris, that would be better
guys adding more to their game offensively is usually pretty expected. but i dont know how many players have transformed their defense well into their careers.
I feel like not having to shoulder so much of the offensive load will make him better. Still fear his defense can only be so good and he has to improve on his vision.
your talking about a guy who brings similar traits to what draymond green does for GS. He's a big asset and will be a major player for a winning team.
As a complementary piece I think he'll be very good. D. White has proven that he's an awesome role player on a great team. Keldon could be similar for the Spurs I think.
not married to him on this team. He's movable for the right package.
He seems definitely like a role player type. He might be a decent backup wing if his shooting improves on a lower workload. Otherwise, he’s just an undersized power forward.
We are not going to get 5 All-Stars on one team. KJ is really good for his contract AND he's a good fit for our team. He's a good role player / starter for our team and you don't wanna get rid of someone like that for an unknown in the draft. I would only have seen him being traded if we didn't get Wemby and still needed to shoot for the fences with high-upside prospects.
He is what other teams view him.
If we can get an Anthony Black. I’d give up Keldon plus SRP’s.
Anthony Black is bigger at 6’7”. Can facilitate. Better defender. And better all-around game. He is a position of need.
Keldon is a tweener at PF. Sochan/Wemby are better at that position. Keldon is slow(er) at SF. Vassell/Wemby better at closing in. Dallas might want another piece to help Doncic. Keldon is a very charismatic guy and a coaches player. Dallas doesn’t need another big PG (or they could). But I think they need a win now guy to pair with Doncic. And Keldon could be that guy.
I hate to lose Keldon, but he brings the best value and the odd-man out.
I was not happy with him last season. Wish he would get back to being a 40+% shooter from three. He should be the 4th best player or lower on a team with deep playoff aspirations.
After the draft, he may already be the 4th best player on the roster.
I like him. I think he could thrive as the 6th man and crunch time 3rd or 4th option. But he falls below Wemby, Sochan, and Vassell in my evaluation of their importance to the roster.
This year should tell us a lot about whether he'll be able to fit into the longterm plans.
And he's a man without a true position, IMO. He is horrendous on defense, although he tries, and would be better suited as a 6th man off the bench.
Unfortunately, I think the coaching staff and community have embraced him too much for him to be moved (right now).
I would move him now while his value is highest, though.
Moving him for an extra first-round pick in a solid draft to acquire a potential starting PG just makes too much sense.
no disagreement here ... lets just hope that less responsibility results in a more stable 3 point shot again
If he was two or three inches taller then I would see the value in keeping Keldon. He's just too small and slow laterally to guard starting SF's. And with Sochan around he no longer has to be a starting PF, so he's a man without a long-term position, IMO.
Moving him to a contender or a team with extra first-round picks to move is a better idea.
And I really don't think he has much upside left besides becoming savvier and a better decision maker.
Unless there is a great deal sitting out there, I'd rather wait a year and see how he fits with this team. Swapping him for another 19-year-old honestly makes this team a little too young. I'd rather Wembanyama be surrounding with guys a little bit further along in their emotional and professional development.
Remember Dallas (#10 pick and possible destination for Keldon) dont need Young prospect for Luka. No way that spurs add some 2rds. Dallas team is in need to shake the things… not us
i'd give them collins instead with picks
I think the tank was harder on him than any other Spur. Why would he care if his 3s go in if we're trying to lose?
No but you need two and three would be great.
he probably also took much more threes which were not catch and shoot
Before the draft
https://www.si.com/nba/spurs/news/sa...a-trade-rumors
The new Poeltl. Get him out of here before teams figure out he is just a streaky 3 point shooter who gets swallowed up by any defender with length
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