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    No. We won’t even be as bad as the 2022-2023 Spurs, because we won’t need to be. We don’t need to win the lottery, just be in it.

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    I mean, we suck

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    No. We won’t even be as bad as the 2022-2023 Spurs, because we won’t need to be. We don’t need to win the lottery, just be in it.
    we're clearly worse than the 22-23 Spurs. Stop sniffing seats

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    [QUOTsE=RC_Drunkford;10988997] we're clearly worse than the 22-23 Spurs. Stop sniffing seats[/QUOTE]

    In a span of 13 games, in the NBA/BAA or ABA, by the San Antonio Spurs, in the regular season, from start of season, sorted by descending Net Points.

    Spurs/Chapparals worst seven starts by point differential:
    51) -69 2022-23
    52) -77 1973-74
    53) -86 1996-97
    54) -87 1986-87
    55) -108 1987-88
    56) -130 1970-71
    57) -169 2023-24

    Leagues worst seven starts:
    1) -239 Cleveland 1970-71
    2) -222 Minnesota 1994-95
    3) -220 Denver 1949-50
    4) -215 Dallas 1992-93
    5T) -214 Philadelphia 2014-15, Golden State 1997-98
    7) -209 Chicago 2001-02


    21) San Antonio 2023-24
    45T) Charlotte 2011-2012 of the thread le.
    66) Texas 1970-71
    131T) San Antonio 1987-88
    no other in worst 200.

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    No. We won’t even be as bad as the 2022-2023 Spurs, because we won’t need to be. We don’t need to win the lottery, just be in it.
    Let's hope. I'm sure the team will work through this funk, but jeez, this is pretty awful. Not on pace to beat last year's win total right now....early I know.

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    For combined seasons, in 2023-24, in the NBA/BAA or ABA, in the regular season, sorted by descending Win Shares.

    467) Max Christie
    468) Jalen McDaniels
    469) Malaki Branham
    470) Julian Champagnie
    471) Jamaree Bouyea
    472) Victor Wembanyama
    473) Theo Maledon
    474) Cade Cunningham
    475) Scoot Henderson
    476) Jordan Poole.

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    For combined seasons, in 2023-24, in the NBA/BAA or ABA, in the regular season, sorted by descending Win Shares.

    467) Max Christie
    468) Jalen McDaniels
    469) Malaki Branham
    470) Julian Champagnie
    471) Jamaree Bouyea
    472) Victor Wembanyama
    473) Theo Maledon
    474) Cade Cunningham
    475) Scoot Henderson
    476) Jordan Poole.
    Win shares come from wins. It’s not rocket science.

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    In a span of 14 games, in the NBA/BAA or ABA, in the regular season, from start of season, sorted by ascending Net Points.

    1) -245 Cleveland 1970 Expansion year, best player Walt Wesley, got to draft Austin Carr.
    2) -230 Denver 1949 Only year of existence, best player Kenny Sailors,
    3) -229 Dallas 1992 Best player Derek Harper, got to draft Jamal Mashburn
    4) -224 Philadelphia 2014 The Process #1, best player Nerlens Noel, got to draft Jahil Okafor.
    5) -223 Minnesota 1994 Best player Christian Laettner, got to draft Kevin Garnett.
    6) -222 Chicago 2000 Best player Elton Brand, got to draft Eddy Curry.
    7) -221 Golden State 1997 Best player Donyell Marshall, didn't get to draft Vince Carter, a future first in the Chris Webber trade.
    8) -210 Miami 1988 Expansion year, best player Grant Long, got to draft Glen Rice.
    9) -203 Chicago 2001 Best player Brad Miller, got to draft Jay Williams.
    10) -198 Philadelphia 2015 The Process #2, best player Nerlens Noel, got to draft Ben Simmons.
    11) -197 Minnesota 2009 Best player Kevin Love, got to draft Wesley Johnson.
    12) -194 San Antonio 2023 Best player Keldon Johnson, gets to draft ?

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    Win shares come from wins. It’s not rocket science.
    Wild how you use WS/48 to bash Shaedon Sharpe in one thread, but dismiss WS in another. It's almost like you cherry pick facts to fit your narrative.

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    Wild how you use WS/48 to bash Shaedon Sharpe in one thread, but dismiss WS in another. It's almost like you cherry pick facts to fit your narrative.
    Fair, but that was only ONE of the things I used.

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    This is the worst Spurs team I have seen since 96-97

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    I think they’ll be better in the second half of the season and end around where the Vegas line predicted.

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    In a span of 15 games, in the NBA/BAA or ABA, in the regular season, from start of season, sorted by ascending Net Points.

    1) -280 Cleveland 1970
    2) -252 Dallas 1992
    3) -250 Denver 1949
    5) -232 Philadelphia 2014
    6T) -221 Minnesota 1994, Miami 1988
    8) -220 Chicago 2001
    9) -213 Chicago 2000
    10) -210 Minnesota 2009

    14T) -201 San Antonio 2023, Houston 1982. Houston ended up 14-68 and drafted Ralph Sampson with the overall #1 pick.

    45T) -162 Cleveland 1984, worst net for a team to make the playoffs.

    49T) -160 Charlotte 2011 of the thread le.

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    All Charlotte got was Michael Kidd-Gilchrist.

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    After losing to the grizzlies nothing is off limits. This could very well be the worst team of all time. They have the perfect storm of no real veterans to right the ship + young players who are tuning out their coach + old senile coach who is awful but can't be fired cause he means so much to the organization. I don't even think this team can beat detriot and/or Washington.

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    In a span of 16 games, in the NBA/BAA or ABA, in the regular season, from start of season, sorted by ascending Net Points.

    While losing, the Spurs improved 4 slots by only losing by 6.

    1) -278 Cleveland 1970
    2) -274 Dallas 1992)
    3) -244 Miami 1988
    4) -243 Denver 1949
    5) -239 Philadelphia 2014
    6) -235 Minnesota 2009
    7) -234 Golden State 1997
    8) -228 L.A. Clippers 1994 Best player Lov Vaught, drafted Antonio McDyess who was traded draft day with Randy Woods for Brent Barry and Rodney Rogers.
    9) -227 Cleveland 2002
    10) -218 Chicago 2000

    18T) -207 San Antonio 2023, Philadelphia 2015 who were 0-16.

    52T) -166 Charlotte 2011

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    In a span of 17 games, in the NBA/BAA or ABA, in the regular season, from start of season, sorted by ascending Net Points.

    Losing by 12 dropped the Spurs 2 slots.

    1) -298 Cleveland 1970
    2) -267 Dallas 1992
    3) -260 Miami 1988
    4) -249 Golden State 1997
    5) -245 Philadelphi 2014
    6) -244 Denver 1949
    7) -234 Cleveland 2002
    8) -232 New Jersey 1987 Best player Buck Williams, drafted Chris Morris.
    9) -229 Minnesota 2009
    10T) -228 Chicago 2000, L.A. Clippers 1999 Best player Tyrone Nesby, drafted Lamar Odom.

    16T) -219 San Antonio 2023, Chicago 2017 Best player Bobby Portis, drafted Wendell Carter.

    57T) -176 Charlotte 2011

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    In a span of 27 games, in the NBA/BAA or ABA, in the regular season, from start of season, sorted by ascending Net Points.

    Ten games later, Spurs are slightly worse.

    1) -476 Dallas 1992
    2) -418 Cleveland 1970
    3) -395 Charlotte 2011 of the thread le, -219 the last 10 games.
    4) -356 Virginia 1974, Best player Dave Twardzik, Glen Combs and Cincy Powell were on the team, George Gervin was sold to the Spurs the previous January., got to draft David Thompson overall #1 then sold to the Nuggets.
    5) -352 Philadelphia 2015
    6) -345 Miami 1988
    7) -338 Chicago 1999, Best player Elton Brand, got to draft Marcus Fizer.
    8) -334 Chicago 2001
    9) -332 New Orleans Jazz 1974, First year of existence, Best player Pete Maravich, got to draft Rich Kelley
    10) -331 Vancouver 1995, First year of existence, Best player Greg Anthony, got to draft Shareef Abdur-Rahim.

    13T)-321 Detroit 2023, San Antonio 2023, Philadelphia 1972
    First appearance by Detroit 2023.
    Philadelphia 1972, Best player John Block, got to draft Doug Collins.

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    In a span of 28 games, in the NBA/BAA or ABA, in the regular season, from start of season, sorted by ascending Net Points.

    1) -500 Dallas 1992
    2) -429 Cleveland 1970
    3) -404 Charlotte 2011 of the le
    4) -369 Miami 1988
    5) -363 Chicago 2000
    6) -362 Philadelphia 2015
    7) -358 New Orleans 1974
    8) -352 Los Angeles Clippers 1994
    9) -347 Vancouver 1995
    10) -346 San Antonio 2023

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    In a span of 29 games, in the NBA/BAA, in the regular season, from start of season, sorted by ascending Net Points.

    1) -519 Dallas 1992
    2) -427 Cleveland 1970
    3) -416 Charlotte 2011 of the thread le
    4) -384 Philadelphia 2015
    5) -381 New Orleans 1974
    6) -378 Miami 1988
    7) -363 Los Angeles Clippers 1994
    8T) -358 San Antonio 2023, Portland 1971 Best player Dale Schleuter, got to draft LaRue Martin overall #1
    10T) -352 Chicago 1999, Philadelphia 1972

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    In a span of 30 games, in the NBA/BAA or ABA, in the regular season, from start of season, sorted by descending Net Points.

    1) -535 Dallas 1992-93
    2) -434 Cleveland 1970
    3) -410 Miami 1988-89
    4) -409 Charlotte 2011-12 of the thread le
    5) -398 Philadelphia 2015
    6) -385 New Orleans 1974
    7) -383 Philadelphia 2014
    8) -373 Portland 1971
    9) -363 Philadelphia 1972
    10) -361 Los Angeles Clippers 1994-95

    -14T) -345 San Antonio 2023, Chicago 1999-2000, Denver 1997 Best player Anthony Goldwire, got to draft Raef LaFrentz.

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