Spare me..

[gtownspur]

Alright, i'm tired of the endless lunacy in this board. And i'm not talking about one ideology as a whole. Liberals can make a valid point now and then, and it is mathematically impossible for conservatives to be right 100 percent of the time. That's why the number is more like 99.999%. No seriously.

Let me get to my point. I have some pet peeves in this forum.

One is the most retarted statement and sentiment ever.

"If there's any extremism we should worry about, it's christian conservatism."

OR

"Christian Conservatism, along with Nazism, and Pol Potism, are the kind of dangerous ideologies that come once in a lifetime and sweep the world into making it a dangerous place."

.....right.. Cause last time i checked, it was a bunch of White shirt Mormons that raided my metro bus ride and held all the brown toned people and sexuals held hostage while asking everybody else for a lOve offering at gunpoint. Seriously how much sugar do they put in the liberal kool aid. Since when was the last time one heard of a Fellowship of Christian athletes member blow up a he-jew deli in tel aviv?

When the first plane crashed into the WTC building, did NbaDan, Mookie, and BOutons immediately think.."Man, it must of been a PTL Missionary plane that crashed into the WTC, damn you bas s!!!! ." Usually when liberals say that it's christian fundamentalist that they're worried about, it usually means that their Polliticaly Correct Dogma is sinking faster than John Murtha's warhawk status.

Another statement i totally despise..

"I'm not a leftist, i'm a moderate,"

or

"I'm not liberal, I consider myself a Libertarian"


Usually when a liberal will claim he's a moderate, that means he has has hangin chads clinging on to the hair of his I "heart" Howard dean tattoed ass. One cannot take a liberal seriously as a moderate when he claims to support 10 dollar gas prices in order for us to all switch to hybrids ala Manny. Or at the same time claim that all the polar ice caps will melt by 2006 and that acid rain will devour all human flesh insight by the year 2010.
Much less can many in hear claim they are libertarian, and then have a hatred for tax cuts or flat rate taxes. I mean that is the crux of Libertarian belief. That the IRS should be abolished and government should legalize dope, pros ution, and get rid of Welfare.
But a liberal claiming to be Libertarian becuase he supports marijuana legalization has as much credibilty as Conservative Yonivore claiming to be Libertarian.. oh wait, did i say that?. I meant, that it would be as credible as i claiming to be a moderate democrat becuase i support "free college".

I have many more pet peeves, but this is my last one for this post.

"IF you want to get rid of the welfar culture, that means you want to starve homeless 9 year olds and kick them out of the homeless shelters."


Need i say more?

[RandomGuy]

We already have a "flat tax". The marginal tax rate we have now is very equivilant to what is proposed under the flat tax umbrella.

What we DO have is a horrendously complicated tax code. I think that is of our own making for the most part. Simplifying the tax code should be one of the priorities of any administration.

[RandomGuy]

I find it funny that as much as you bemoan the liberal distortion of what conservatives believe in your post, you go right out and distort what liberals believe.

Can't get any more hypocritical than that.

[gtownspur]

Wouldn't the flat tax put all incomes under a 15 percent rule or something to that effect? BEcause right now we have a progressive tax code. The rich and middle pay a higher percentage than the lower middle and poor.

[RandomGuy]

Wouldn't the flat tax put all incomes under a 15 percent rule or something to that effect? BEcause right now we have a progressive tax code. The rich and middle pay a higher percentage than the lower middle and poor.

A flat tax with a generous lower threshold would do pretty much the same thing that we do now.

There is a lower end to the progressive tax system at the moment that wouldn't change much.

The 15% that a lot of people use is way too low for what the government would need without massive spending cuts.

I seem to remember the GAO doing a study that estimated that for a flat tax to work it would have to be around 28% anyways.

The rich DO pay a higher percentage, but that is only on earned income. The capital gains tax rates of 15% means that if you have the money to invest in things that gain in value, such as stock or other such things, the "rich" can actually pay LESS in percentage terms than the middle class, with the proper tax planning.

I have been studying individual, partnership, and corporate taxation for the last year or so, and they are the hardest classes I have ever taken.

One of the big reasons that the tax code is so complex is that people are highly motivated to cheat. Every new tax has some built-in loophole.

As a future accountant, let me be clear: I hate tax law. I prefer data analysis to memorizing tax code. I would be one of the ones standing up and cheering a real simplification of it.

[gtownspur]

I find it funny that as much as you bemoan the liberal distortion of what conservatives believe in your post, you go right out and distort what liberals believe.

Can't get any more hypocritical than that.

Blow yourself. I didn't speak about all liberals. just those that claim to be moderate, or hate christian conservatives more than terrorist.

[gtownspur]

A flat tax with a generous lower threshold would do pretty much the same thing that we do now.

There is a lower end to the progressive tax system at the moment that wouldn't change much.

The 15% that a lot of people use is way too low for what the government would need without massive spending cuts.

I seem to remember the GAO doing a study that estimated that for a flat tax to work it would have to be around 28% anyways.

The rich DO pay a higher percentage, but that is only on earned income. The capital gains tax rates of 15% means that if you have the money to invest in things that gain in value, such as stock or other such things, the "rich" can actually pay LESS in percentage terms than the middle class, with the proper tax planning.

I have been studying individual, partnership, and corporate taxation for the last year or so, and they are the hardest classes I have ever taken.

One of the big reasons that the tax code is so complex is that people are highly motivated to cheat. Every new tax has some built-in loophole.

As a future accountat, let me be clear: I hate tax law. I prefer data analysis to memorizing tax code. I would be one of the ones standing up and cheering a real simplification of it.

In order for the flat tax to work we would have to cut alot of spending or become isolationist.

[RandomGuy]

In order for the flat tax to work we would have to cut alot of spending or become isolationist.

Heh, paying down the deficit would be the first step in my book.

[Guru of Nothing]

"Christian Conservatism, along with Nazism, and Pol Potism, are the kind of dangerous ideologies that come once in a lifetime and sweep the world into making it a dangerous place."

.....right.. Cause last time i checked, it was a bunch of White shirt Mormons that raided my metro bus ride and held all the brown toned people and sexuals held hostage while asking everybody else for a lOve offering at gunpoint. Seriously how much sugar do they put in the liberal kool aid. Since when was the last time one heard of a Fellowship of Christian athletes member blow up a he-jew deli in tel aviv?

I have heard of Christians killing and raping "######s" in here Mississippi.

Would that count as terrorism?

[MasterYoda]

Fear and Insecurity are key factors in the decisions made my man.

Unfortunate, this is.

Leads to anger and hate, it does.

Guilty, ALL OF MANKIND, is.

[gtownspur]

I have heard of Christians killing and raping "######s" in here Mississippi.

Would that count as terrorism?

Seriously, stick to making sarcastic one liners.

There's a distinction. Only a few demented ones have gone down as doing it in the Name of GOd. Many just hate blacks out of pure racism and has nothing to do with the writings of the new testament. I bet there are buddhist who have done horrendous things,but they don't get labeled as potentially dangerous.

I know of many christians who are incarcerated and there some who molest children. Now wether they do that in the name of God like Muslims do when they commit terror acts that's a different story.

[bigzak25]

Seriously, stick to making sarcastic one liners.

There's a distinction. Only a few demented ones have gone down as doing it in the Name of GOd. Many just hate blacks out of pure racism and has nothing to do with the writings of the new testament. I bet there are buddhist who have done horrendous things,but they don't get labeled as potentially dangerous.

I know of many christians who are incarcerated and there some who molest children. Now wether they do that in the name of God like Muslims do when they commit terror acts that's a different story.

The 1st '######s' where the white slave owners that coined the term in the 1st place.

To me, the word represents someone, anyone, that has no self respect for him or herself or others.

And last i checked, those kind of people come in EVERY COLOR IN THE WORLD.

White, Black, Brown, Red, whatever...and funny thing...no one is really white or black.........we're all light brown...or brown...or dark bown...and really fair people can look pink...we all got the same Blood running through our veins...WE ARE ALL THE SAME!!!!

WE ARE ALL PART OF MANKIND!

WE ARE ALL HUMAN BEINGS!

One thing that DESTROYS US, is the need TO CLASSIFY PEOPLE IN A CERTAIN GROUP.

WE all up. We all make mistakes. Those that break the laws should be locked up. The worse the crime, the longer the time. And I don't give a what color the skin of a person is.

A man is a man. A woman is a woman. We've all been blessed in one way or another. Enough with the finger pointing and the endless ING please...

[bigzak25]

/end venting. thanks, i needed that...

[gtownspur]

^So you think that the greatest threat to america is christian conservatives, cause that's what i was talking about.

[Mr. Defense]

^So you think that the greatest threat to america is christian conservatives, cause that's what i was talking about.

sorry 2 go off topic.


THE GREATEST THREAT TO AMERICA...is...lack of FAITH.

[ChumpDumper]

Hey, if you're really curious about what to label yourself take the political compass test.

There's a thread full of posters' test results. I actually ended up being fiscally moderate and socially libertarian, so go screw.

[DarkReign]

sorry 2 go off topic.


THE GREATEST THREAT TO AMERICA...is...lack of FAITH.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAAAA

[Oh, Gee!!]

sorry 2 go off topic.


THE GREATEST THREAT TO AMERICA...is...lack of FAITH.

in who or what?

[RandomGuy]

Blow yourself. I didn't speak about all liberals. just those that claim to be moderate, or hate christian conservatives more than terrorist.

I love you too.

There are nutjobs at both ends of the political spectrum and both sides seem to take a simplified view of the other.

Tell me that you don't see all "liberals" as evil, and I will retract my charge of hypocrisy.

[JoeChalupa]

Sounds like a personal problem or issue. Just live with it.

I hate hearing plenty of stuff from the right and the left that is biased to the extreme but it is what it is.

I get tired of hearing, "if you speak out against the war you are aiding the terrorists".

"I'm not a neo-con, I'm a moderate".

"You can't support the troops and be against the war".

"Liberals are anti-America and don't love their country like conservatives do".

"Conservatives are more religious than liberals".

Need I say more?

It all goes both ways is what I'm trying to say.



The political forum rocks!

[gtownspur]

I love you too.

There are nutjobs at both ends of the political spectrum and both sides seem to take a simplified view of the other.

Tell me that you don't see all "liberals" as evil, and I will retract my charge of hypocrisy.

I think liberals are severely misguided and ignore human nature at times.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Seriously, stick to making sarcastic one liners.

There's a distinction. Only a few demented ones have gone down as doing it in the Name of GOd. Many just hate blacks out of pure racism and has nothing to do with the writings of the new testament. I bet there are buddhist who have done horrendous things,but they don't get labeled as potentially dangerous.

I know of many christians who are incarcerated and there some who molest children. Now wether they do that in the name of God like Muslims do when they commit terror acts that's a different story.

you're such a moron! First you want to clarify that not all christians kill black people in the name of god, just a deranged few, and then you claim that all muslims are terrorist. Ignorant

[gtownspur]

Are you calling me an ignorant ?. Tell me where i said all muslims are terrorist. Cuz if i did, i'd be all for pulling out of iraq and nuking it instead of improving it.

First of all you should stick to raising cattle and milking bulls in argentina. You know nothing about americans.

Had the bible endorsed whites to kill blacks, you'd have a point moron! but that's not so, and most of the skinheads out there are all atheist. But the koran does endorse holy war against infidels, and justifies the means to the ends.

i swear you should stick to being a province of venezuela.

[MannyIsGod]

Gtown, there are times when I don't think you can get any dumber. Then you post again.

[gtownspur]

Dude, Like i care about a bag like yourself that's a cross between the fat dude from Zorro and Shrek.


If i could have a penny for everytime you post in here witout any new insight i'd have $132.57.