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Rotations suck, Mitch just trying to parrot Pop instead of being his own man
First half Wemby 15 minutes, Castle 13 minutes. For the lakers: Davis and James both with 18. Players need to play. This has been a problem for years. No changes in sight
Rotations suck, Mitch just trying to parrot Pop instead of being his own man
I already said this so many times. Its weird how they use wemby’s minutes tbh.. he needs to play the whole 1st quarter then sit at the start of 2nd quarter then come back at around 6 minutes of 2nd quarter to finish the half. the same in 2nd half. Play the whole 3rd quarter then sit at the end of the 3rd then sub in around 6 minutes of the 4th quarter to finsih the game.
if thats the case then wemby should get out of san antonio to play more minutes
Yeah, they’re not going to play him 36 minutes when he’s huffing and puffing going up and down the court.
but they need to at some point in his career. Its better to play him big minutes while he still young.
We are sitting castle to much
Wemby should play 36-40 minutes when he reaches his prime age wise ... 32 minutes in the regular season is sufficient for a 20 year old.
But I am also not a fan of him taking two breaks per half. two 8min runs per half would be better.
This game has shown us some glaring issues our roster has, issues which will most likely be the reason why we don't make the play-in.
1) Castle is the only reliable paint penetrator on the team and the only player who consistently gets to the line.
Devin obviously isn't back to his usual self, but not drawing enough fouls was always one of his biggest flaws.
Tre also never draws fouls due to his verticality and CP3's legs are gone, we can't expect him to attack the rim.
Keldon is a paint penetrator, but as unreliable as it gets. He just tunnel visions and hopes for the best.
Others aren't even worth mentioning.
I'd say this is probably the biggest issue. If others could penetrate the paint, they'd be able to draw help and Wemby wouldn't have to spend so much time on the perimeter.
But if we can't collapse the defense, then Wemby won't have many situations where he can get the ball in or close to the paint without being triple teamed.
2) Branham and Wesley are charity cases and have no long-term future in the league.
We can prop them up all they want when they make a good move or two, but it's their third year and we should be getting more than a couple of good moments here and there.
Lakers were missing a lot of players, Max Christie who's not even a regular rotation member comes in and does a way better job on both ends of the floor than Branham and Wesley.
They can have their moments against Jazz and Wizards all they want, but they have no business being on the floor against serious teams other than to soak up a few minutes here and there.
Especially Wesley. There's just nothing there other than his quickness. Track and field athlete.
Branham is one of those players who's horrible when his shot isn't falling. Awful defense, no playmaking skills and an inconsistent shot.
Both need to be out of the rotation when Tre comes back.
3) While we're at Tre, while he's injured one of CP3/Castle always needs to be on the floor because we're not doing otherwise.
4) Mamu needs to play because even though he's a pretty bad defender, he's got high IQ, rebounds hard and is actually becoming a legit threat from 3pt if we talk bigs.
5) Collins is doing his best, but he's cooked. His body failed him and he can't be the player we need him to be. He's obviously tragically unathletic to play solid defense, but he can't even make those quick post moves anymore that earned him the extension because if he can't score against bench bigs, what's the point of him on the roster?
6) The biggest disappointment of - Keldon. He just needs to go. He got the bag, even got a gold medal because Pop coached team USA, became a fan favorite because of his character, but he just has to go.
Instead, he's closing out games even if he didn't do to earn it. His shoot keeps getting worse, he's not developing any playmaking skills whatsoever and his defense is just atrocious. He doesn't have Zach's athleticism issue, he's just a 0 IQ player.
On the first damn play last night he just ball watches and allows his man to score an easy layup because he's got negative floor awareness. Beyond frustrating, he's a 6th year player and those mistakes will never be fixed.
7) Barnes gets completely frozen out by his teammates for extended periods of time. Partially his fault because he needs to be more assertive, but he was never that player. He was always a connective piece that doesn't distrupt the pace of tha game.
But we need him to do more. Instead, way worse players are chucking bad shots and possessions get stopped.
To conclude, we're obviously better than last year, but due to West being so compe ive, we'll probably end in no man's land. Not an issue because we don't need to compete yet and there are a lot of positives, but if PATFO actually want to try and make the play-in, we need to get a reliable backup big and a reliable 3-D wing in place of Collins and Keldon. And we need everyone to get healthy.
Guys chill, Spurs are in phase, where they are trying things.
Haven't you heard?
Collins
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having
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good
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Haven't you heard? The Spurs are trying to develop Keldon as a playmaker right now ...
Jokes aside, I mostly agree with your assessments. Collins plays somewhat physical but is neither much of a rebounder nor a rim protector anyhow. Sure, he might not look as terrible this season as he did for most of the last one, but that is a low bar to clear. Basically, he is a net neutral when it comes to "value over replacement player".
As for Keldon, he unfortunately reminds me of Westbrook more and more. Some of it might be him losing weight and wearing the same number on his jersey that Westbrook used to have, I guess. But at this point, what does he really offer besides his driving game? His shooting is iffy at best, as is him creating anything for others, and his defense is mostly bad. I think that he can play better than he has so far this season, sure, but I still wonder what kind of role he really might have on a winning team given his development or lack thereof.
Branham’s shooting line: 52/50/83 EFg% 62.3 TS% 65.7
Hate on him all you want, and it may not be here, but he’ll have a place in this league. He’s an absolute bucket at this point, a three level scorer, and I wouldn’t be surprised to see him turn into a Jordan Clarkson type. I hate watching him play defense or bring the ball up the floor, but that er can SCORE. Those EFG and TS numbers are ridiculous.
Branham is so great they played him a whopping 6 minutes last night.
I'd rather not look at the shooting splits so early in the season.
2.5 3pt attempts isn't enough to proclaim he's a legit shooter. I'd rather stick to last year's 34% until he shows some conssitency and higher volume.
He looks great in low intensity games. When it's time to play actual basketball, he doesn't do much.
He played 11 games this season, scored 10+ points in 4.
3 out of those 4 were in losses against OKC and Houston when the game was out of reach and he scored in garbage time.
Season high was against Portland, arguably the worst team in the conference.
8 pooints against Washington, again a game with no defense being played.
He also has 12 assists and 15 turnovers in 166 minutes of play this season.
Maybe there is an NBA player somewhere in there, but it's his third year and he's not making enough progress.
He'll obviously have this season to try and stay on the roster because we're not going anywhere, but I'd be really surprised if he ever becomes good enough to be a long-term bench piece, let alone a microwave scorer like Jordan Clarkson.
Everything points to PATFO's plan to build the best defensive team in the league. Traffic cone with no playmaking skills simply has no place on that roster just because he can sometimes get hot. Since our core guys are all projected to be positive on defense, I'm fine with having a bench scorer who needs to be covered for, but that bench scorer has to be someone who can check into the game at any time and drop 15 points, no questions asked. Not someone who might get hot once in a blue moon, but doesn't do anything against serious teams.
Ex never fails to use statistics completely the wrong way and makes all sorts of illogical conclusions from it. He loves his small sample sizes. Stick to whatever the else you’re good at, because stats ain’t it.
I could very well be wrong and Branham might make an unexpected leap, but I don't see it.
Since Spurs hate giving up on their picks during their rookie contract, both him and Wesley will probably be on the roster next year, they picked up their option, after all. But they shouldn't be anything more than third stringers.
When everyone is healthy, this will probably be the rotation:
CP3/Tre
Devin/Castle
Jeremy/Champ
Barnes/Keldon
Wemby/Collins
Castle needs to start, but we can't really bench Barnes for him if Jeremy is also playing. CP3 also won't get benched.
Keldon and Collins should be replaced by Mamu and Bassey, but that also won't happen.
There's just no place for Branham and Wesley when everyone is healthy.
I mean, so long as we're using small sample sizes and stats, one could argue that Branham is a bottom 10 player in the NBA by EPM this year despite borderline unsustainable 65% TS
The narrative on how Barnes needs to play if Sochan plays will change if Castle maintains his shooting. That only stuck because people have it in their heads that Castle’s not a good shooter, which could still be true, but it’s trending up.
If you can’t tell the difference between my post and yours, then I don’t know what to tell you. I type about hypotheticals and trends, you definitively make conclusions like “Malaki has a place in this league because small sample size this and small sample size that..”. Be better.
It’s year three, when players usually make the jump. Vassell’s 3p: 34/36/39. I’m sorry the sample size is small, but it’s all we have. The only conclusion I made based on the stats was that he can score. Not wild speculation.
Can I warm you a bottle, or something?
Not everything calls for a conclusion, maybe get that through to your head instead of constantly arguing in bad faith?
Maybe not go on the attack immediately, when you’re one of the first to decry ad hominem? I could call you wishy washy because you never commit to a position, but that’s your posting style, and I dont expect you to change it because it’s different from mine. If mine offends or upsets you, there is an ignore function on this rickety old board. Feel free to put me on it. I promise my feelings won’t be hurt, and maybe the overall discourse will improve. I mean, it wasn’t even your post I responded to, but you jumped in, and went all super Chihuahua on me.
When there’s a force that spews lies disguised as facts, there needs to be side opposite of that to expose it. So no, you’re not getting off that easy.
What part of my post was a lie?
An intentional misrepresentation is considered a lie.
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