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  1. #1
    Aggie Hoopsfan
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    www.suntimes.com/output/e...ips27.html

    Nice, claiming an award no one has ever been awarded...

  2. #2
    Bandit2981
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    can we move on to other issues?

  3. #3
    Aggie Hoopsfan
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    Sure, let's talk about Kerry's campaign platform.

    Oh wait, his platform IS his Vietnam record.

    What to do...

  4. #4
    Joe Chalupa
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  5. #5
    xrayzebra
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    Why should we, Kerry himself calls himself a hero and that
    his service in VN makes him the one to lead the country.
    "Reporting for Duty". or do you remember that?

  6. #6
    Bandit2981
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    :next3

  7. #7
    bigzak25
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    libs don't care about integrity in the white house....it's not suprising you guys are

  8. #8
    Bandit2981
    Guest
    yeah, being a cokehead, alcoholic, draft dodging, and getting an illegal abortion for your knocked up girlfriend is the epitome of integrity we already have like 20 threads on this same freakin issue, lets talk about that actually matters in the next 4 years like health care, fighting terrorism, education, jobs, etc

  9. #9
    Samurai Jane
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    Yes, let's do that..

    What is Kerry planning to do to improve health care in the US?

    What is Kerry planning to do to improve education in the US?

    What is Kerry planning to do to stimulate the economy in the US?

    What will Kerry do differently to fight the war on terrorism?

    Etc.

    Please be specific and please no lines like "Kerry will be better than Bush." because that is the same as a non-answer or more specifically "I don't know".

  10. #10
    Bandit2981
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    What is Kerry planning to do to improve health care in the US?
    Cut Your Premiums
    John Kerry and John Edwards will cut family premiums by up to $1,000. That's $1,000 in real savings people can use to buy groceries, pay the bills, and save for their children's future. And that will mean more jobs and more compe ive American businesses.

    Cover All Americans With Quality Care
    The Kerry-Edwards plan will give every American access to the range of high-quality, affordable plans available to members of Congress and extend coverage to 95 percent of Americans, including every American child. Their plan will also fight to erase the health disparities that persist along racial and economic lines, ensure that people with HIV and AIDS have the care they need, end discrimination against Americans with disabilities and mental illnesses, and ensure equal treatment for mental illness in our health system.

    Provide Affordable Prescriptions
    The Kerry-Edwards plan will reduce prescription drug prices by allowing the re-importation of safe prescription drugs from Canada, overhauling the Medicare drug plan, ensuring low-cost drugs, and ending artificial barriers to generic drug compe ion.

    Cut Waste And Inefficiency
    Today, approximately 25 percent of health care costs are wasted on paperwork and administrative processing. The Kerry-Edwards plan harnesses American ingenuity to cut waste, save billions, and take new steps to ensure patient privacy.

    What is Kerry planning to do to improve education in the US?
    Meet Our Responsibilities To Our Schools
    John Kerry and John Edwards will establish a National Education Trust Fund to ensure that schools always get the funding they need. They will also ensure that No Child Left Behind works for schools, states, and teachers by rewarding those who meet higher standards and rewarding schools that turn around and improve.

    Continue Reform And Put A Great Teacher In Every Classroom
    Great teachers are the foundation of a great school. As president, John Kerry will enact a new bargain that offers teachers more, including better training and better pay in troubled schools, and asks for more in return, including fast, fair ways to make sure that teachers who don't belong in the classroom don't stay there.

    Offer 3.5 Million After-School Opportunities Through "School's Open 'Til Six"
    John Kerry and John Edwards are strong supporters of after-school programs. They give students extra help, keep them out of trouble, and offer peace of mind to working parents. The Kerry-Edwards "School's Open 'Til 'Six" initiative will offer after-school opportunities to 3.5 million children, through programs that are open until 6 p.m. and offer safe transportation for children.

    Make College Affordable For All And Expand Lifelong Learning
    As president, John Kerry will offer a fully refundable College Opportunity Tax credit on up to $4,000 of tuition for every year of college and offer aid to states that keep tuitions down. And he will launch a new effort to ensure that all of our workers can get the technical skills and advanced training they need.

    What is Kerry planning to do to stimulate the economy in the US?
    Create Good-Paying Jobs
    As president, John Kerry will cut taxes for businesses that create jobs here in America instead of moving them overseas. John Kerry and John Edwards will also stand up for workers by enforcing our trade agreements.

    Cut Middle-Class Taxes To Raise Middle-Class Incomes
    When John Kerry is president, middle-class taxes will go down. Ninety-eight percent of all Americans and 99 percent of American businesses will get a tax cut under the Kerry-Edwards plan.

    Make Washington Live Within A Budget
    John Kerry will cut the deficit in half during his first four years in office. He will end corporate welfare as we know it, roll back the Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans, and impose a real cap to keep spending in check. And when John Kerry puts forward a new idea, he'll tell you how he's going to pay for it.

    Invest In The Jobs Of Tomorrow
    Today, businesses are harnessing new technology to manufacture energy-efficient cars, high-grade steel, advanced plastics and other new products. And this requires a bigger, skilled labor force to make them. John Kerry and John Edwards believe we should invest in these jobs and invest in the people who will fill them.

    What will Kerry do differently to fight the war on terrorism?
    Launch And Lead A New Era Of Alliances
    The threat of terrorism demands alliances on a global scale - to utilize every available resource to get the terrorists before they can strike at us. As president, John Kerry will lead a coalition of the able - because no force on earth is more able than the United States and its allies.


    Modernize The World's Most Powerful Military To Meet New Threats
    John Kerry and John Edwards have a plan to transform the world's most powerful military to better address the modern threats of terrorism and proliferation, while ensuring that we have enough properly trained and equipped troops to meet our enduring strategic and regional missions.


    Deploy All That Is In America's Arsenal
    The war on terror cannot be won by military might alone. As president, John Kerry will deploy all the forces in America's arsenal - our diplomacy, our intelligence system, our economic power, and the appeal of our values and ideas - to make America more secure and prevent a new generation of terrorists from emerging.

    Free America From Its Dangerous Dependence On Mideast Oil
    To secure our full independence and freedom, we must free America from its dangerous dependence on Mideast oil. By tapping American ingenuity, we can achieve that goal while growing our economy and protecting our environment.

  11. #11
    Joe Chalupa
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    It doesn't matter because you won't believe it.

  12. #12
    Aggie Hoopsfan
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    So who's gonna pay for it all?

    Y'all about the deficit all the time, is all that gonna happen for free?

  13. #13
    Bandit2981
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    true joe, but then again we wont believe Bush's plans either

  14. #14
    Samurai Jane
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    Why do you say that, Joe? Just because I'm a Bush supporter doesn't mean that I won't take the time to look at each statement and weigh it objectively. Thus far, I've seen nothing to sway my opinion, but I will give it consideration. Up to this moment, I have not seen any real answers on the real questions repeated time and again by undecideds.

    Thank you, Bandit, I will review it closely when I get a chance.

  15. #15
    Bandit2981
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    Samurai, your best bet is to watch the debates for your more specific answers...im sure after thay are all over is when people will make a final decision

  16. #16
    Samurai Jane
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    I'm sure you're right, Bandit. I am looking for something a little more specific than the summaries given above. At the moment, they seem like alot of grand ideas and promises. I'm looking forward to the details.

  17. #17
    Joe Chalupa
    Guest
    I agree. Both candidates say they will cut the deficit in half during the next 4 years but neither has said how they will do it.
    I admit that I don't like to see some programs cut like CHIP and other programs and I know it ain't easy cutting anything because somebody somewhere isn't going to like it.

  18. #18
    xrayzebra
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    jenn, neither Bush or Kerry can really deliver on any of their
    "promises". They both have to go through both houses to
    get anything done. They can only "try". Look at what
    both have delivered so far. That is, Bush has delivered.
    Kerry has been up in the Senate for 18 years and hasn't
    done much of anything. I will be the first to say I am
    prejudice, I am a confirmed conservative, took me many
    years to come to that, but I was in my younger years a
    Dem-o-crap, well I am a real live, born here Texan,
    and then they decided they wanted to be what-ever-they
    are. Never mind, watching football and whatever has
    got me running on and on......just look at the past to
    see the future.....and leave the damn drums alone, okay?

  19. #19
    exstatic
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    Little Boy: Grandpa, read me a story.

    Grandpa: OK. Once upon a time...

    Little Boy: Grandpa? Do all fairy tales start with "Once upon a time"?

    Grandpa: No. Quite a few of them begin "If elected, I promise..."


    :next3

  20. #20
    SpursWoman
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    No. Quite a few of them begin "If elected, I promise..."

    'you sure not all of them do?

  21. #21
    Aggie Hoopsfan
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  22. #22
    travis2
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    As usual, the liberals have no problem bringing up the President's record...but can't stand the heat when some one questions Kerry's record.

    But then again hypocrisy is par for the course for liberals.

  23. #23
    Tommy Duncan
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    Cut Your Premiums
    John Kerry and John Edwards will cut family premiums by up to $1,000. That's $1,000 in real savings people can use to buy groceries, pay the bills, and save for their children's future. And that will mean more jobs and more compe ive American businesses.

    Cover All Americans With Quality Care
    The Kerry-Edwards plan will give every American access to the range of high-quality, affordable plans available to members of Congress and extend coverage to 95 percent of Americans, including every American child. Their plan will also fight to erase the health disparities that persist along racial and economic lines, ensure that people with HIV and AIDS have the care they need, end discrimination against Americans with disabilities and mental illnesses, and ensure equal treatment for mental illness in our health system.

    Provide Affordable Prescriptions
    The Kerry-Edwards plan will reduce prescription drug prices by allowing the re-importation of safe prescription drugs from Canada, overhauling the Medicare drug plan, ensuring low-cost drugs, and ending artificial barriers to generic drug compe ion.
    So bascially Kerry-Edwards intend to push the nationalization of the US health care industry. They have no intention of addressing the basic problem which is that most Americans pay for all of their health care expenditures through 3rd party payers. As for prescription drugs, Kerry-Edwards do nothing to address the demand side of the equation, which is the major problem. The Medicare drug plan is nothing but pouring gasoline on the flames of that demand. The K-E complaint seems to be that the Bush administration did not include enough gas in their Medicare expansion. I wonder what "artificial barriers" to generics K-E intend to eliminate? IP protection? If you weaken patent protection then there is going to be less of an incentive for the pharmaceutical companies to invest in R&D.


    Cut Waste And Inefficiency
    Today, approximately 25 percent of health care costs are wasted on paperwork and administrative processing. The Kerry-Edwards plan harnesses American ingenuity to cut waste, save billions, and take new steps to ensure patient privacy.
    But of course, central planning will reduce waste. No doubt. Patient privacy? The government will have access to your health records.

    Again, as with other "problems" our society faces, the solution lies not in more government intervention, but less. But it keeps the idiots of the country happy to think that solutions along the lines of what K-E propose will actually work.

  24. #24
    IcemanCometh
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    What is Bush planning to do to improve health care in the US?

    What is Bush planning to do to improve education in the US?

    What is Bush planning to do to stimulate the economy in the US?

    What will Bush do differently to fight the war on terrorism?

  25. #25
    travis2
    Guest
    You act as though Kerry himself has actually answered those questions.

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