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    The techno musician made headlines a few years back when he accused the rapper of promoting phobia with his songs. Now, Moby is telling Eminem and anyone who promotes his “misogynistic” music: “you have blood on your hands.”

    Moby’s outrage stems largely from a recent case in which an Eminem fan and impersonator recently was convicted of murdering a woman and stuffing her in a suitcase. The man had just finished a karaoke performance singing Eminem’s music. In his video, “Stan,” Eminem murders a woman he put in the trunk of a car.

    “If a musician made a record wherein he talked about killing blacks and Jews would he get covered in the press and played on radio and MTV? If the answer is ‘no’ (as it should be), then why is radio and MTV filled with music that has lyrics about killing and brutalizing women and gays?” Moby asks on his Web site. “Any employee of a record company or journalist or radio programmer or MTV employee who has promoted and celebrated misogynistic or phobic music should be ashamed. You have blood on your hands, and you should be deeply, deeply troubled at the culture that you’ve helped to create.”

    Regarding the murder case, Eminem has joked that he’s “completely innocent. I should be cleared of all charges” and has said that the “hype” surrounding the case should be good for his career.

    Crime is crime, and speech is speech. Short of inciting a riot, speech is still free for the time being, but are misogynistic and phobic lyrics crossing an ethical line?

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    You don't wanna mess with Shady
    Cuz why?
    Cuz Shady will in' kill you

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    W4A1 143 43CK? Nbadan's Avatar
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    eh, they're both pussies, but one pop-star accusing another of 'having blood on his hands' for writing lyrics is hilarious.

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    Damn The Man Mr. Peabody's Avatar
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    I don't think performers should be blamed because their fans are psyschopaths. If this kid wasn't listening to Eminem, he'd be mindlessly following some other pop icon. Some people are just ed up and it has nothing to do with what they listen to or watch.

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    I don't believe in censorship but i do find the level of misogony inherent in our culture revolting.

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    I am sure if a christian preacher said what some of this guys are saying... they'd be hung by the liberal media press... funny how some can't stomach to criticize their own.. lol

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    One is free to sing or rap what you want. The music industry is free not to play it if they choose. That is not censorship.

    It becomes censorship if the government begins to tell them what they can play.....or cannot play.

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    Tori Amos also sang that song about putting the ex in the trunk and then dropping her to the bottom of the lake goo goo ga ga nighty nighty. mommy was real bad so now she deserves a timeout. You don't here many es ing about TOri now do we? Rock on eminem, tori

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    There was crime, murder, rape and destruction way before Moby or Slim Shady...and there will always be....

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    They are "artist" who have the brains God gave a doorknob, for goodness sake. Who
    cares what they think.

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    Call me old school....but I just don't understand how Eminem or any of that genre sell their "music".

    I remember the uproar when Charlie Daniels told the Devil he was a Son Of A on the radio and had to change it to "son of a gun" to be played on AM radio.

    If you don't like the material that is out there.....don't buy it....it is that easy...the big record comapnies put it out because people buy it. If there was no market for it, that crap wold never even see the light of the studio to record it in.

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    i'd be funny if moby kicked eminem's ass in real life... lol.... but I don't think that will ever happen...

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    The most Ironic thing of all is that Eminem is the biggest pussy seen in the countryside since Matt Leinart. Seriously, Who the fears this guy? Who thinks he has the balls or the streetness to kill anyone, let alone a chick?

    He's such a ing poser. The reason I think he gets airtime is because behind everyone's fascination with him they know he's just a stupid high-pitched white poser that is a mediocre MC at best.

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    Some of the lyrics these songwriters sing is pure crap.

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    uups stups! Cant_Be_Faded's Avatar
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    It would be totally wrong to censor or punish Eminem, because the stuff he says has been said for years, by many other artists. Plus, he'd thrive on such censorship and turn it into more records sold.

    Who can take this ing high pitched pansy seriously? If he was very very ugly, but equally as muscular, and had a non-high pitched whiny rapping voice, he'd have more cred, but be far less popular. Most people who listen to him are teenybopper school girls.

    Eminem deserves to be brutally beaten down for the introduction of 50 Cent alone. But to censor him is to only make him stronger.

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    Both could retire and never record an album again, I wouldn't notice.

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    Good post.

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    Eminem has killed many boys and girls. Moby has bored many boys and girls.
    Both will become very rich has-beens and live happily ever after. So much of pop war.

    If i kill a guy listening about killing a guy, would it matter what I was listening? American Psycho was listening Hip to be Square, by someone and the News when he did his act. Pop is just here for crazy s to chill.

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    Actually, the premise of 'Stan' is that a fan is writing letters to Eminem, and he hasn't responded - the kid takes it personally, goes off the deep end, and kills his girlfriend.

    Eminem gets all his crazy letters, and writes him back telling him not to do crazy stuff, and finds out he was too late.

    So, Eminem actually never killed anyone in the video/song/etc. He was trying to discourage it.

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    Actually, the premise of 'Stan' is that a fan is writing letters to Eminem, and he hasn't responded - the kid takes it personally, goes off the deep end, and kills his girlfriend.

    Eminem gets all his crazy letters, and writes him back telling him not to do crazy stuff, and finds out he was too late.

    So, Eminem actually never killed anyone in the video/song/etc. He was trying to discourage it.
    1. No one really cares about lyrics, as long someone uses motives of killings.

    2. Defending art is like defending a waterfall. Water doesn't care.

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    I shot a man in Reno just to watch him die.

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    I can live with it JoeChalupa's Avatar
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    Both could retire and never record an album again, I wouldn't notice.
    I concur.

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    I shot a man in Reno just to watch him die.
    I shot the sheriff.....but I did not shoot the deputy.

    Here is something you can't understand...how I could just kill a man.

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    Mama...just killed a man; put a gun against his head, pulled the trigger now he's dead.

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    Hit me with your best shot.......fire away!

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