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I wish Pop would tell Tim to shut the up and sit.
Why is playing him worth the risk?
I know Timmy wants to win but still. I'd rather have him for the playoffs.. oooo..
http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/b...k.36e4136.html
Johnny Ludden
Express-News Staff Writer
PHOENIX — Tim Duncan's right foot continues to trouble him, but the Spurs have all but ruled out giving him another cortisone injection.
Duncan has been bothered by plantar fasciitis in the foot since the preseason. He received a pain-killing shot Dec. 11, but the Spurs don't want to risk giving him another injection, coach Gregg Popovich said.
"We don't want to dry up those tendons," Popovich said. "If you dry up those tendons, then you have big problems. We'll just have to live with it."
Popovich said he continues to contemplate sitting Duncan to give him additional rest, but Duncan wants to keep playing.
The injury has most affected Duncan when the Spurs play on consecutive nights and he doesn't have enough time to recover. But it also shows itself on a daily basis.
"In some games, depending on the pain, it will limit the kind of movement he can make," Popovich said.
Marks hurt: The Spurs had only 11 players in uniform Saturday night after Sean Marks sprained his left ankle while shooting before the game.
Marks landed awkwardly after attempting a shot in the lane and was helped to the sideline. He is expected to be out at least two weeks.
Marks has played sparingly this season, but he was moved to the active roster Friday because Beno Udrih is suffering from the flu. Udrih didn't accompany the team to Phoenix.
Count Duncan out: Phoenix Suns chairman Jerry Colangelo had hoped to meet with Duncan on Saturday to discuss his interest in playing for Team USA in this summer's World Championships and the 2008 Olympics. Duncan, however, sent word through a Spurs official and his agent that he hasn't changed his mind about not playing.
"I have no interest in that," Duncan said.
Duncan, who has been bothered by knee and foot injuries in recent seasons, said he wouldn't be able to make the three-year commitment Colangelo is asking of players.
Duncan was selected for the U.S. team at the 2000 Olympics but had to withdraw with a knee injury.
Suns continue to rise: Popovich thought the Suns would continue to play well without Amare Stoudemire, but even he has been somewhat surprised by their recent surge to the top of the Pacific Division.
"I think they're faster than they were last year," Popovich said. "I really do.
"I think it shows what a special player and leader Steve Nash is. I don't know why he can't be the MVP again, holding that team together and keeping them right in the ballpark with other teams in the league.
"It's really special what he's doing."
Suns coach Mike D'Antoni said Boris Diaw's play has been a big part of their success, too.
Phoenix obtained Diaw from Atlanta in its sign-and-trade deal for Joe Johnson. In two years with the Hawks, Diaw played only sparingly.
"I wondered if he could play," D'Antoni said. "You worry about why wouldn't he play on a team that's losing.
"I had no idea about him. He almost gets a triple double every time he walks on the floor."
What's in a name? Phoenix's America West Arena was officially renamed US Airways Center on Friday. The name change was a result of a merger between the two airlines.
The Suns had their first two sellouts of the seasons Friday and Saturday in the newly christened building.
I wish Pop would tell Tim to shut the up and sit.
Why is playing him worth the risk?
I know Timmy wants to win but still. I'd rather have him for the playoffs.. oooo..
I don't really care what happens, I jsut want the old Duncan back.
1. that playing/practicing, even just being on the foot, will prevent/delay PF healing.
But with PF completely rested, complete healing can take months, ie, Tim's and Spurs' season would be over.
2. With PF limiting Tim, I think his presence on the court often actually hurts more than it helps, because the Spurs continue to give below-normal Tim his normal amt of touches as first-option, with which he has been often ineffective, shooting way below 50% in several games. Tim is also limited on defense, not able to rotate and defend the paint well. (the @Bucks game was extremely frustrating, since Tim was able to give a rare-this-seaon dominant, MVP peformance, but Spurs lose anyway)
So, rest Tim completely and you have a crippled Spurs, crippled like any other NBA team without a dominant big man (or the Spurs after Tim retires).
Or, continue to play a limited Tim and you have a Spurs with a mediocre big man having lots of low-contribution/bad games and unable to anchor the defense.
The Spurs have decided to let Tim play. Time will tell.
tim wants to play 78+ games even if its low statsto give him a run at mvp again
For those of you who have experienced plantar fasciitis before, you know how painful it can be, and it can take months to heal. I had it in college, and even a week or two of rest doesn't help that much. Duncan should play if it's not too bad, because unless he takes at least a month off, resting it won't help much. And, if he were to take a month off, that means completely resting it, meaning not even walking on the foot. And, then how would that affect his conditioning when he returned? All things you have to factor in when deciding whether Duncan should sit or not. Would you really want Duncan to sit a week or two and risk multiple losses when it wouldn't even really help Duncan heal? It doesn't make much sense unless it's a month off.
Dear Pop, it's not about January, it's about May-June. Sit him for crying out loud. You've been a pussy and defered to Duncan your entire coaching career, grow a ing sack.Popovich said he continues to contemplate sitting Duncan to give him additional rest, but Duncan wants to keep playing.
He has 2 MVP's i am sure he could care less about that anymore. Timmy is thinking about Western conference home court more than anything else. If the PF is not going to heal unless they sit him down for like 2 months, than what is the point. He might as well just play through it the best he can. Hopefully he can manage it throughout the year. I know Kobe had PF a few years ago and he managed it fine and had his usual year.tim wants to play 78+ games even if its low stats
I"m really worried this won't heal until next year. THis type of injuries linger without completly resting for a while.
I guess the point is that it likely won't heal in a week's time or a month's time. Some people even say that it hurts more when they aren't even doing any activity. So it's just a pain that he's going to have to deal with. If he was at risk for a tear or something, I'm sure he'd be sitting.
Holy , this stuff is really starting to freak me out....poor duncan..
Will he ever be 100% again? Jesus christ..
I am a lineman that climbs telephone poles 10-12 hours a day and had been having pain in my foot as well. I was diagnosed with plantar fasciitis which like with Duncan there is not much that can be done about it. So I started researching it and found these inserts http://www.heel-that-pain.com/ the first day I wore them I had no pain at all for the first time in a long time. The second day my foot felt sore but different, more like muscle sore. I took them out for two days to let my foot rest. I have wore them ever since for almost six months with no pain at all. All I know is for me they have been a life saver because foot pain sucks.
Tim's last 2 seasons had him missing 13 and 16 games.
He comes back this season rested, noticeably lighter, and in great shape, apparently ready for to go for a complete MVP season like 02/03, and a repeat, then gets hit with PF.
Just a string of bad luck? or his age and 15+ seasons of basketball breaking his body down?
If he's too discouraged to think about Olympic basketball the next 2 summers, no one should blame him.
Kori, we can get by with him sitting out two months. maybe even three. I'd rather try that than "heck, it already hurts and it won't be better in a month so let's play him anyway."
After this tough stretch at home where he can get some treatment in SA - sit him out for a couple of weeks say after the Memphis game, rest never hurts.
But Pop's already said it's a condition that won't worsen if he plays and won't necessarily heal any faster if he rests. Pop's not stupid; he's not going to risk making it worse.
Sit him out on some of these EZ games...
Where are the old clippers when you need them??
Do yall think he'll be 100% by the playoffs?
No.
If he needs rest to fully heal his plantar fasciitis(sp) then he will never heal completely because he is always playing basketball. Hopefully Duncan doesn't make the all-star team and can sit out all of Feburary with the All-Star Break. If Pop decides to sit him down now he will have 2 months of rehab time.
No, but then again, he wasn't last year, either. PF causes pain, but it doesn't limit your mobility like a sprained ankle or two.
I think that's the key. They could shut him down for two months, have him play a game or two, and it could still be there.For those of you who have experienced plantar fasciitis before, you know how painful it can be, and it can take months to heal.
Alright Summers, fine, keep playing him 40 minutes a night in freakin' January.
Just don't be surprised or come crying here when he's a gimp in the playoffs and we don't even make the NBA Finals.
We've got the depth... Nazr, Rasho, Horry, Oberto... to give Duncan the next TWO or THREE months off.
, rest him til' the end of March and let him play the last 15 games to get back in a groove with the team. That would give him nearly three months to rest and get better.
We need to be at 100% or damn close to it to beat Detroit this year. I'd argue we're also going to need to be at or near that level for Dallas (as much as the clowns on here will argue otherwise).
But who am I kidding, everyone will say I'm wrong and Tim Duncan is Superman (despite the fact it's obviously hurting him out on the court to anyone watching a game), so be it.
Like I said, keep playing Duncan 35-40 a night, just don't be surprised when he gets worked over in the playoffs, or call him soft for it.
I would argue that we need an intact Manu more than an intact Tim in the playoffs.
They could sit him for three months and it might not heal, and all you've done is throw your playoff seeding into the ter, having to fight up from #4 or lower with a PF affected Tim instead of from #1.
facts elude the best.They could sit him for three months and it might not heal, and all you've done is throw your playoff seeding into the ter, having to fight up from #4 or lower with a PF affected Tim instead of from #1.
Who says it's a fact? I haven't seen anyone prove that it *can't* clear up in 2-3 months, just people saying no guarantees.
About the only guarantee I see is that right now Duncan is hobbling, especially on the second night of b2bs.
I would say water treatment is what he needs...
Slap him in a partial dry suit and toss him into the springs at Brak for a couple hours a day...
But with nothing on the feet... That cold water will heal that bad boy up...
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