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Nope.
He still isn't consistant and a starting job didn't help him so bench his ass and hope for a spark when he comes into the game is my take.
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Nope.
He still isn't consistant and a starting job didn't help him so bench his ass and hope for a spark when he comes into the game is my take.
Manu should always start if he is healthy.
No. Starting is special honor that Manu has earned by helping win 2 rings and generally be a credit to the Spurs organization.
Even if Michael were shooting 45% instead 40%, Manu should start.
Finley is a better player than Manu, he is also less prone to injury... Manu getting a few minutes off the bench is sufficient.
I say no. Only because Manu plays better with Tony and Tim on the floor. Finley is obviously in a slump, but its not because of coming off the bench or because of starting. He's just in a slump.
Manu should start - he's earned it.
If Finley played like Manu does - he'd be hurting worse due to age, so let go of the nutsack Sequ.
Finley is a better player than Manu?!
At what? Chess? Connect Four? Surely you're talking about basketball.
this routine is getting tired
Finley's Resume
A two-time NBA All-Star (2000 and 2001)
Spurs are his third NBA team
Named to the 1996 All-Rookie First Team (finished third in Rookie of the Year voting)
Has earned NBA Player of the Week honors three times (2/6/00, 4/14/02, 1/18/04)
Scored his 10,000th career point vs. Memphis on 3/23/02
Has led the NBA in minutes three times (1996-97, 1999-2000 and 2000-01)
Competed in the Slam Dunk Contest in 1996 and 1997 (in 1996 he was the runner-up behind Brent Barry in the Alamodome)
The Mavericks all-time leader in three-pointers made (with 870)
Among Mavericks all-time leaders in games (fourth), minutes (third), points (fourth), rebounds (fourth), assists (fifth), steals (second), FG made (fourth) and FT made (fifth)
Started each of the last 605 games he played with the Mavericks
In his 10-year NBA career has appeared in 735 regular season games averaging 19.0 points, 5.1 rebounds, 3.7 assists and 1.16 steals in 39.3 minutes per contest
Has appeared in 56 playoff games, averaging 17.8 points, 5.2 rebounds, 2.9 assists and 1.27 steals in 41.4 minutes in the postseason
A member of the USA team that competed in the 2002 World Championships
Played for the Team USA squad in the 1994 World University Games
Was named USA Basketball's Male Athlete of the Year.
Ginobili's Resume
Career Highlights
In Spurs playoff history ranks seventh in points (835), third in 3PT-FG made (80), seventh in rebounds (278), seventh in assists (198), third in steals (86), seventh in 3PT-FG percentage (.392) and is tied for eighth - with George Gervin - in games (57)
Led Argentina to the gold medal in the 2004 Olympics averaging 19.3 points, 4.0 rebounds, 3.3 assists and 1.38 steals in 29.9 minutes in eight games
Named Fox Sports en Espanol’s 2003 Latin American Basketball Player of the Year
Finished fourth in voting for the 2002-03 got milk NBA Rookie of the Year Award
Voted to the 2002-03 got milk? NBA All-Rookie Second Team
Named the Western Conference got milk? Rookie of the Month for games played in March, 2003
Named 2001 Euroleague Finals MVP
Named the Italian League MVP in both 2000-01 and 2001-02
Named to the All-Tournament Team at the 2002 World Championships leading Argentina to a silver medal
Led Argentina to a second place finish in the 2003 FIBA Americas Men’s Olympic Qualifying Tournament , earning All-Tournament honors after averaging 14.1 points and 4.4 assists in the team’s 10 games
Finley > Ginobili
Got Milk?
Last edited by SequSpur; 01-11-2006 at 05:00 PM.
Manu = 2 RingsFinley's Resume
A two-time NBA All-Star (2000 and 2001)
Spurs are his third NBA team
Named to the 1996 All-Rookie First Team (finished third in Rookie of the Year voting)
Has earned NBA Player of the Week honors three times (2/6/00, 4/14/02, 1/18/04)
Scored his 10,000th career point vs. Memphis on 3/23/02
Has led the NBA in minutes three times (1996-97, 1999-2000 and 2000-01)
Competed in the Slam Dunk Contest in 1996 and 1997 (in 1996 he was the runner-up behind Brent Barry in the Alamodome)
The Mavericks all-time leader in three-pointers made (with 870)
Among Mavericks all-time leaders in games (fourth), minutes (third), points (fourth), rebounds (fourth), assists (fifth), steals (second), FG made (fourth) and FT made (fifth)
Started each of the last 605 games he played with the Mavericks
In his 10-year NBA career has appeared in 735 regular season games averaging 19.0 points, 5.1 rebounds, 3.7 assists and 1.16 steals in 39.3 minutes per contest
Has appeared in 56 playoff games, averaging 17.8 points, 5.2 rebounds, 2.9 assists and 1.27 steals in 41.4 minutes in the postseason
A member of the USA team that competed in the 2002 World Championships
Played for the Team USA squad in the 1994 World University Games
Was named USA Basketball's Male Athlete of the Year.
Ginobili's Resume
Career Highlights
In Spurs playoff history ranks seventh in points (835), third in 3PT-FG made (80), seventh in rebounds (278), seventh in assists (198), third in steals (86), seventh in 3PT-FG percentage (.392) and is tied for eighth - with George Gervin - in games (57)
Led Argentina to the gold medal in the 2004 Olympics averaging 19.3 points, 4.0 rebounds, 3.3 assists and 1.38 steals in 29.9 minutes in eight games
Named Fox Sports en Espanol’s 2003 Latin American Basketball Player of the Year
Finished fourth in voting for the 2002-03 got milk NBA Rookie of the Year Award
Voted to the 2002-03 got milk? NBA All-Rookie Second Team
Named the Western Conference got milk? Rookie of the Month for games played in March, 2003
Named 2001 Euroleague Finals MVP
Named the Italian League MVP in both 2000-01 and 2001-02
Named to the All-Tournament Team at the 2002 World Championships leading Argentina to a silver medal
Led Argentina to a second place finish in the 2003 FIBA Americas Men’s Olympic Qualifying Tournament , earning All-Tournament honors after averaging 14.1 points and 4.4 assists in the team’s 10 games
Finley > Ginobili
Got Milk?
Finley = 0 rings
Manu > Finley
Got Rings?
WTF, finley missed like 5 games already due to injury and is a one dimensional player, who when his shot is not on, is worthless. Manu delivers in many categories. Even the Nets announcers were puzzled last night when Manu wasn't starting. Marv Albert said he brings a lot to the table. You have an undeniable pattern on every issue that puts down players of a certain race.
Marv Albert?
Finley is a stud. The number one free agent of the summer. Member?
Hey, but Manu gots milk...
I say for now keep starting Finley, it is still early in the season. And keeping Manu healthy is more important now.
If he was a stud, why would Dallas release him? Oh yeah money. Riiight.Marv Albert?
Finley is a stud. The number one free agent of the summer. Member?
Hey, but Manu gots milk...
I'm sure if Manu and Finley were both free agents this past Summer that teams would be lining up to sign Manu and have Finley as their backup plan.
Right off the bat Manu is younger.
Do you think the same would be true if they were the same age?
No. Put him back on the bench and put Manu back into the starting lineup.
No, time to go back to championship starting five, including Nazr.
No.
Manu creates havoc at the beginning of the game that often sets the tone for the rest of the game. While I like his spark off the bench, his tenacity on the defensive end drives offenses nuts and creates sloppiness from the get-go. I like having him on the floor for the first two minutes for this reason.
Look at last nights game......
The Nets were killing the Spurs in the first quarter... In comes Manu and the Spurs take control of the game..
Now... what if Manu would've started and they started off slow... who is going to come in and be the spark? Barry? Beno?
Manu has to have limited minutes or he might pull a ear muscle or something.... He is better bench player.... hey...... he may even get a 6th man award... he can put it in the Argentina Manu Shrine back home. Woohoo!
start manu!!!!!! finley doesnt play as good as manu whether he start or come off the bench...
OK.... what is the problem with Manu coming off the bench? Because he doesn't get his named called with the laser lights? Should we just say Manu instead of yall ready for this?
WTF is the difference?
Thank you, really who gives a if he starts, just go with what is working. Right now it is working. Good point about spark of the bench. Finley is not a "spark". Coming off the bench in this game does not always mean you are the least qualified for the job. I agree Manu is a better player, but that is not the argument here.
I think we can use Finley better than we have. Use him like Detroit uses RIP...coming off a screen for an open jumper. Finley is the best, if not the only Spur, that has that ability. Use it.
If Pop can do that, than I'd say keep Finley in the starting lineup. If Pop can work those plays into our game, and it would be easier to do with the starting lineup...than you'd be getting the most out of Finley. Manu doesn't need that type of setup that a Rip or a Finley does...so, coming off the bench wouldn't matter as much.
Finley is an all star player, and is still capable of all-star performances...it's up to Pop to see it, and use it. If he can't...start Manu.
Of course that would require some actual offensive sets and coordination...and a point guard who is running an offense and setting up for assists rather than points.
hmmmm.....
Last edited by SouthernFried; 01-11-2006 at 05:38 PM.
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