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    http://counterterror.typepad.com/the...rikes_aga.html

    CIA got "good reporting" on al-Zawahiri's presence in a building and it ordered the Predator airstrike - could be visual confirmation soon but weeks before confirmation through DNA tests.

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    Reap the whirlwind ....

    Reminds me of a quote I read about what US snipers think about killing Al Queda folks

    "Recoil"

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    Wow that's kick ass, where'd you read that (about the snipers)?

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    Reap the whirlwind Sherrif Brady

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    DAMADOLA, Pakistan - Al-Qaida's second-in-command was the target of a U.S. airstrike near the Afghan border but he was not at the site of the attack, two senior Pakistani officials said Saturday. At least 17 people were killed.

    Close.

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    Strange. Is it such a good idea to lob bombs into our ally's lands like that? Isn't there some other way to coordinate a capture/assassination?

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    I think that if they know this quickly that we didn't get him that they know where he really is. That pisses me off.

    Chump - Pakistan is steadfast against US troops being on the ground in the border region, and if they actually helped us catch someone like Zawahiri or bin Laden they'd probably have a coup d'etat on their hands. Lots of folks in Pakistani intelligence are linked to the Taliban and Osama.

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    Interesting to see how this plays out. Looks like Dubya didn't take a golf pass like Clinton when he got the call. Unless he pre-authorized a hit on him if located.

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    So Pakistan is with us and against us?
    they'd probably have a coup d'etat on their hands.
    Well, that's how Musharraf got into power in the first place. One has to wonder if free elections there would work out for the US.

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    I think that if they know this quickly that we didn't get him that they know where he really is. That pisses me off.

    Chump - Pakistan is steadfast against US troops being on the ground in the border region, and if they actually helped us catch someone like Zawahiri or bin Laden they'd probably have a coup d'etat on their hands. Lots of folks in Pakistani intelligence are linked to the Taliban and Osama.
    No doubt in my mind the hit was coordinated with Pakistan. Also no doubt
    that we knew they were going to "view" this with grave concern and call
    in our ambassador. We make no moves without their knowledge. I can
    only hope that the coordination is with someone we can trust. I can
    assure you that the people of Pakistan are reading about how their
    government does not like us doing what we did in their newspaper's
    today. The Pakistan government has many reasons for wanting OBL
    and his group gotten rid of. But not in a obvious fashion.

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    What I would of done is given them there f16's a while back with some JDAMS...

    Heck you could uploade the target GPS coords in flight all the pak pilot would have to do is press the fire button 20,000 feet above the target.

    Could be some fallout from this...

    BTW This does not look like A bomb strike..
    Maybe it was a drone but it was not a 500+ lb guided bomb. Would of been more signs of outward explosion markings and debris. Almost just looks like a house collapsed. I don't see a single thing burnt. Maybe artillery or morter?
    Last edited by Vashner; 01-14-2006 at 01:41 PM.

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    Why do they continually announce "We think we got so and so!" ? Why not wait until it's confirmed so they don't look like such jackasses?

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    Why do they continually announce "We think we got so and so!" ? Why not wait until it's confirmed so they don't look like such jackasses?
    Why does our media pick-up on it so fast. Another old saying:
    Don't believe anything you read or half of what you see. Really seems
    to fit the bill these days.

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    So Pakistan is with us and against us?Well, that's how Musharraf got into power in the first place. One has to wonder if free elections there would work out for the US.

    THe areas where alqueda are seeking refuge are not under the soveriegn control of Musharraf. The history channel did an exclusive about the tribes there whose sole existance is based purely to wage war with each other. They abide by a strict code in which they will not tolerate turncoats from either side, and they will band together if a foreign army will attack one of the tribes. To conduct a capture mission is not like a Tom Clancy Rainbow SIx game,(kinda like asking for classified war strategies will not occur in the real world unless one is playing "Call of Duty" on Xbox). BUt enough with my childish condescension, i figure you'll find an even better solution.

    ....maybe we could set a big giant mouse trap baited with shwarmas to catch them ragheads...

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    To conduct a capture mission is not like a Tom Clancy Rainbow SIx game
    Really, what's it like? Is it like watching the History Channel?
    kinda like asking for classified war strategies will not occur in the real world unless one is playing "Call of Duty" on Xbox
    I'm not the one who called it PLAN for Victory in Iraq, . Had he named it Fuzzy Outline for Withdrawl from Iraq, I'd have been less disappointed.

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    "Why do they continually announce...."

    afaics, the US hasn't announced anything:

    "A Defense Department official said last night that there were "no coalition military aircraft in the area of the reported explosion in a Pakistani village." "

    The announcing "jackasses" are the "sources" and the Pakistanis.

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    Really, what's it like? Is it like watching the History Channel?I'm not the one who called it PLAN for Victory in Iraq, . Had he named it Fuzzy Outline for Withdrawl from Iraq, I'd have been less disappointed.
    Um, nothing like watching the history channel i bet. BUt sure beats drawing conclusions from my own ass like you do in order to score debate points.

    and um, as far as history goes, (and not the CHannel), no ing president has shared his war plans in detail to the public. Get over it and a small animal so that you can wake up tommorow morning smoke a virginia slims, and feel smarter than the rest of us who stick to logic.

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    no ing president has shared his war plans in detail to the public.
    Take it up with Bushie, he should have called it What We Have Done in Iraq and Trust Us the Rest of the Way, M'kay? Or Else You Hate America.

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    Believe. gtownspur's Avatar
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    Well i'm sure He's sorry. I'm sure he missed the memo of how War Plans are alternatively dubbed "Way to go bags, here's the classified War Strategie for you to read, defeats the purpose, but hey you deserve to know because you all are 5* armchair generals in my book."

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    Well i'm sure He's sorry.
    Nah, he isn't. Just wanted to get the word "Victory" on all the backdrops where he was speaking for a week. Good propoganda.

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    I guess he didn't satisfy your "Defeat" phrase qouta, but i guess he was wrong all along. I mean, gosh.. when will those national elections they promised take place.

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    I mean, gosh.. when will those national elections they promised take place.
    You mean the ones they created artificial timetables for?

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    Believe. gtownspur's Avatar
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    I guess by now you've recieved the Strategic War Plans from Karl Rove through the mail all for the low price of 19.99, rush delivery.

    Again, enlighten me of the facts of when this administration has ever alluded to using time tables.

    I thought they said they would measure the progress first and commit withdrawals based on progress reports done by the ground generals.

    Hey, but in War, everyone uses time tables seeing how there are no other variables that might upset those plans.

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    Again, enlighten me of the facts of when this administration has ever alluded to using time tables.
    When scheduling elections.

    You're welcome.

    I never asked for a timetable, so put away the straw man.

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    ^ Straw man?

    What straw man? That qoute you used didn't imply that you did ask for time tables.

    No thanks, back at ya.

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