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    Alleged Michigander ChumpDumper's Avatar
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    The New York Knicks have acquired Toronto Raptors guard/forward Jalen Rose and a first-round pick in exchange for power forward Antonio Davis, ESPN's Stephen A. Smith reports.

    Davis was a likely target to be traded because of his expiring contract.

    The Knicks have lost nine of their last 10 games.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2317958
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    Larry gets someone who can actually run an offense.

    Now the big question is where Davis finally ends up.

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    Could Penny for Ratliff be far behind?

    Good job by Zeke getting a pick out of it.

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    Yet another unbelievably overpaid player for Isiah's Knicks.

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    The Knicks seem to get smaller after every trade.....

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    Good job by Zeke getting a pick out of it.
    Yep.

    I wonder how protected it is.

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    you think he will start?

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    Why is it that whenever a trade goes down everyone just wants to talk about what it means for the teams involved? Why can't you people stop for just a single second and say, "Thank you Stephen A. Smith for your Pulitzer quality investigative sports journalism."

    GIVE ME MY PROPS, FOOLS!

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    I'm sure the pick is protected. How does this help Toronto at all? Besides not paying his huge salary next year?

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    I'm sure the pick is protected. How does this help Toronto at all? Besides not paying his huge salary next year?

    Maybe it will help Toronto when we trade for Davis.

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    The Knicks seem to get smaller after every trade.....
    That's all part of my master plan

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    Good move by the Raps since they clear off 17 million of the books...considering they want to retain Bosh, this gives them some leverage in signing new players...

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    The draft pick is a first-round pick from the Denver Nuggets, which the Raptors acquired in an earlier trade, the Toronto Star reports.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2317958

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    When's Marbury leaving?

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    I like it for the Knicks as well, it was a financial moive for the Raps but the Knicks got Jalen Rose who has started to play well of late and a pick.

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    I think the knicks are also targeting theo ratliff + patterson for lee+arizor and penny.

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    Mrs Davis must be thrilled with the trade

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    Jalen and Stephon could make a pretty good tandem.

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    God, Isiah has wrecked that franchise. They're so desperate that they have to take on an extra $18 million in scrub-player salary just to get a draft pick that will likely be in the 18-22 range. I cannot believe Isiah hasn't been fired, blacklisted from the NBA, and shot after what he did to a once-proud organization.

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    Malik Rose Haiku

    a Rose by any other

    name isn't the same.

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    God, Isiah has wrecked that franchise. They're so desperate that they have to take on an extra $18 million in scrub-player salary just to get a draft pick that will likely be in the 18-22 range. I cannot believe Isiah hasn't been fired, blacklisted from the NBA, and shot after what he did to a once-proud organization.
    I think it doesnt bother the knicks since pennys contract comes off the books so its a -2mill imo.

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    This is less a Zeke move and more a Larry Brown move. He has no faith in the current point guard choices.

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    frye is the reason this went down

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    I like this trade for the Knicks in terms of the on-court results. A ball-handling three is going to be able to spread the floor and create mis-matches for the Knicks. Rose has spent time with both Jermaine O'Neal and Chris Bosh, so he should have no problem feeding the post to Eddy Curry and Channing Frye. The contract situation isn't even that bad because Rose only has one more year on his deal than Antonio Davis. Rose is going to be able to contribute more than Davis was anyway. Rose has previous relationships with both Isiah Thomas (back to his high school days when Thomas was a star for the Pistons) and Larry Brown (played from December to April of the 1996-97 season before Brown left for Philadelphia).

    What I am curious to see is that Rose has had a lot of bad locker rooms follow him around, and that is either a coincidence or he's been the cause of that. AD, from most accounts, was a locker room stabilizer in Chicago and New York.

    I am also curious to see how Rose is going to respond to Larry Brown. They famously did not get along after the trade that sent Mark Jackson to Denver. Rose was stuck behind Chris Mullin in the depth chart, and he thought he had earned a spot in the rotation. Miller tried to broker peace between the two, and came away from the situation feeling burned. Brown said in 2004, he was "still" ashamed by how he handled the last year in Indiana, a year the Pacers would not make the playoffs.

    Also, as with all of Rose's teams, it will be interesting to see if he's used as a 1, 2, or 3. I believe he will start. The Knicks have had rebounding problems from the beginning and Davis wasn't helping in that area, so I don't see the Knicks as the losers here. Their hole is just as big as it ever was.

    As for Davis, I believe this will be his last season, and it's only fitting he finish out his career in Toronto. They really need his cap space and leadership.

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    This is less a Zeke move and more a Larry Brown move. He has no faith in the current point guard choices.
    I don't see that. Brown's coached Rose before and they did not get along at all. If this is an LB move, it's a head scratcher.

    Meanwhile, Jalen Rose used to work out with the Pistons on the campus of Oakland University when Rose was a local high school star. It's rumored the reason that Thomas retired in 1994, although he had 2-3 good years left is that the Pistons were going to offer him the job Joe Dumars has now, and he was hoping to be able to draft Jalen Rose (Pistons took Grant Hill at the third pick, Rose was taken 13 by Denver). Thomas took Rose under his wing, and the majority of the reason that Rose did not join the Pistons after Grant Hill left in 2000 is that Isiah Thomas had just been named coach in Indiana.

    They have a long history together, and it fits within the basketball nepotism and loyalty that Thomas has displayed over the years as GM. This is definitely an Isiah Thomas transaction.

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