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    Rasheed Wallace is statistically having one of the worst years of his career. He is ranked 51 of top players and 14 as a power foward. You always hear that the fans shouldn't pick the players, but here is an example of a reach by the coaches. Rather than picking the best players it seems many eastern conference coaches are trying to send a message about team play at the expense of the allstar game. Team players are what make championships but are not allstars. It is unfair to the fans who support the rest of the teams.

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    Dont let stats get to u fool

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    Rasheed is as good as any PF in the game. I like the message that the coaches are sending: if you play team ball for a winner, you will be rewarded, not penalized for giving up some stats. I think a stat pig like Carter has less of a place on the team than Rasheed.

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    duncan could pat his stats more but he does not he shares it
    but he still goes to the allstar game

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    It's an allstar game not an all team game. It's suppose to be fun with the best players. Besides the the player left off for Wallace is leading the league in rebounding, Howard from Orlando. You're only a fool if you look at only the offensive stats.

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    G Min M A Pct M A Pct M A Pct Off Def Tot Ast TO Stl Blk PF PPG
    Last game vs DET 1 43 8 11 72.7 0 0 0.0 6 9 66.7 3 11 14 0 3 2 1 3 22
    Career vs. DET 5 38.3 6.2 11.6 53.5 0.0 0.0 0.0 3.2 5.0 64.0 3.6 6.6 10.2 0.6 1.4 1.0 1.4 2.6 15.6
    Home (this year) 24 36.4 5.5 10.9 50.8 0.0 0.0 0.0 4.1 6.6 61.6 3.2 8.9 12.1 1.3 2.3 0.9 1.5 3.5 15.2
    0 Days Rest (this year) 12 38.5 5.8 10.8 53.5 0.0 0.0 0.0 3.8 6.3 60.5 3.4 10.5 13.9 1.3 2.9 0.4 1.4 3.6 15.


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    2003-04 DET 22 30.6 5.5 12.8 43.1 1.0 3.1 31.9 1.7 2.5 70.4 1.5 5.6 7.1 1.8 1.3 1.1 2.1 2.7 13.7
    2004-05 DET 79 34.0 5.9 13.4 44.0 1.0 3.0 31.8 1.7 2.5 69.7 2.2 6.0 8.2 1.8 1.6 0.8 1.5 3.0 14.5
    2005-06 DET 48 35.6 5.7 13.1 43.5 2.0 5.3 37.7 1.8 2.4 73.0 1.3 5.3 6.6 2.6 1.1 1.2 1.6 3.1 15.1
    Career 759 34.5 6.3 13.0 48.4 0.8 2.3 33.8 2.4 3.4 71.0 1.7 5.2 6.9 2.0 1.8 1.0 1.3 3.0 15.8

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    walllace and howard go at it friday

    lets see who shuts who down

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    Rasheed Wallace is statistically having one of the worst years of his career. He is ranked 51 of top players and 14 as a power foward. You always hear that the fans shouldn't pick the players, but here is an example of a reach by the coaches. Rather than picking the best players it seems many eastern conference coaches are trying to send a message about team play at the expense of the allstar game. Team players are what make championships but are not allstars. It is unfair to the fans who support the rest of the teams.
    So is Duncan.

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    Besides the the player left off for Wallace is leading the league in rebounding, Howard from Orlando. You're only a fool if you look at only the offensive stats.
    Wait, so you're saying Howard is a better defender than Rasheed?

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    4 Pistons getting in is BULL . Rip and Billups deserved it hands down and even to start.

    But Ben Wallace and Sheed? Bull tttttttttttttttt

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    Rasheed is as good as any PF in the game. I like the message that the coaches are sending: if you play team ball for a winner, you will be rewarded, not penalized for giving up some stats. I think a stat pig like Carter has less of a place on the team than Rasheed.
    You're stupid.

    Carter is an MVP candidate.

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    You're stupid.

    Carter is an MVP candidate.



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    carter and mvp should not be even mention in the same context or speech. thats just n wrong. if ur definition of mvp is most valueble pansy then yes.

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    Here is my take on the whole "If the NBA is a team game and the Pistons are the best team in the NBA then the entire starting 5 should be on the all-star team" bull poop:

    The NBA is a team game and the goal of the team is to win the le. That is your reward for being the best team. However the All-Star game is a celebration of individual players having stand out years at their positions. Chauncy Billups is the only Piston deserving of this honor. Every other player in the Pistons starting five as an individual is being out played by at least one other player in the Eastern Confrence.

    Fool proof logic. Put it in a book and make it a law.

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    Well who should go in there place?

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    Stat..... .....

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    Well who should go in there place?

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    Redd or Arenas over Hamilton although in retrospect I really cant argue with Hamilton making the team.

    Dwight Howard and (as much as I cant stand the ) Chris Webber over the Wallace boys.

    All that aside there was more to my post than just disputing the Pistons boys making it. But take from it what you will.

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    Rasheed is as good as any PF in the game. I like the message that the coaches are sending: if you play team ball for a winner, you will be rewarded, not penalized for giving up some stats. I think a stat pig like Carter has less of a place on the team than Rasheed.
    The stats totally lie about Rasheed. He shoots 43% because he pulls opposing bigs to the three point line so as to make it impossible to switch off screens run for Hamilton and to open the interior for dribble penetration. Of course his rebound numbers are way down too since he's spending 80% of the time far from the basket on offense. If you want a stat to show his real impact offensively, consider that his points per shot are 1.15 this season, and he doesn't hurt the team by jacking threes since his team is amazing in transition defense.

    He's still unguardable in the post and when they need a basket in crunch-time Rasheed is automatic throwing a jumper or a hook from a step outside the blocks on the baseline. He can get a high percentage shot off on anyone. He's the most underrated defender in the game and if he's not as good as Ben he isn't very far off his level.

    He absolutely deserves to be there and he's a much more complete player than Howard, Redd, or Arenas.

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    exstatic has his head up his ass because he can't dunk.

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    I think Billups & BigBen are totally deserving, then the Pistons with their great record deserve 3 spot for allstar, so it should have been either Rip or Sheed for the third spot.

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    i dont think tp is an allstar, his more of a star player to me, no where near allstar or superstar level.

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    The stats totally lie about Rasheed. He shoots 43% because he pulls opposing bigs to the three point line so as to make it impossible to switch off screens run for Hamilton and to open the interior for dribble penetration. Of course his rebound numbers are way down too since he's spending 80% of the time far from the basket on offense. If you want a stat to show his real impact offensively, consider that his points per shot are 1.15 this season, and he doesn't hurt the team by jacking threes since his team is amazing in transition defense.

    He's still unguardable in the post and when they need a basket in crunch-time Rasheed is automatic throwing a jumper or a hook from a step outside the blocks on the baseline. He can get a high percentage shot off on anyone. He's the most underrated defender in the game and if he's not as good as Ben he isn't very far off his level.

    He absolutely deserves to be there and he's a much more complete player than Howard, Redd, or Arenas.

    Thank you. People don't realize that when you factor in Rasheed's three point shooting he's one of the more effecient players in the league. His eFG% is 51%. He's actually more effecient from the field than Duncan, Bosh, JO, Dirk, etc since he takes so many threes. And that doesn't even factor in your point that he pulls shot blockers out of the paint. In that regard he probably buys his teammates 4-5 layups per game, because he can hit shots out to 30 feet from all angles.

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    then the Pistons with their great record deserve 3 spot for allstar
    This is exactly what I dont agree with. The Pistons record will reward them with home court in the playoffs. Thats not what the all-star game is all about to me. The All-Star game IMO isnt about the accomplishments of the team.

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    This is exactly what I dont agree with. The Pistons record will reward them with home court in the playoffs. Thats not what the all-star game is all about to me. The All-Star game IMO isnt about the accomplishments of the team.
    These are the COACHES voting, and I'm sure they care more about putting in team-first guys than me-first chuckers.

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    if this game is for allstars, then wtf is parker doin on teh squad?

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