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  1. 02-13-2006 #1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Harvey
    Buck Harvey: Names of All-Stars change, but the impact of Ginobili rarely does

    San Antonio Express-News

    INDIANAPOLIS — Manu Ginobili says you aren't named to the All-Star Game because of what you did last year, but that doesn't explain Yao Ming.

    Last year, this year — what exactly has he ever done?

    Yao has never won a playoff series, and the same goes for his All-Star and Rockets teammate, Tracy McGrady. Others who will be in Houston next week representing the Western Conference, Elton Brand and Pau Gasol, have the same résumé.

    Ginobili, instead, is coming off an All-Star season that peaked in the spring. What he did should have stayed with some people, but the memory gave way to the usual NBA emphasis on stats and style.

    As it was, the final 1:28 Sunday afternoon had to remind everyone.

    Ginobili says he really doesn't care that he won't be in Houston, and he appears sincere. He also understands why he's not going. Playing through three injuries this season, he says he hasn't been "great."

    Fans who voted didn't completely agree with him; he finished third behind Western Conference starters Kobe Bryant and Steve Nash. But the coaches who select the reserves left him off the team, and those in the media who annually question these selections didn't even put him on their who-got-snubbed list.

    Carmelo Anthony is supposed to be the one in the West with a beef.

    The reasoning is not without logic. The Spurs, after all, have two other All Stars. Ginobili's injuries have caused him to miss 13 games and struggle in others. And compared to the numbers of Anthony and Ray Allen, Ginobili looks like a role player.

    But Ginobili proved how wrong that perception was last spring. Then he helped eliminate Anthony and Allen and Nash from the playoffs.

    Four Pistons made the East team in the name of team play. Why not Ginobili for the same reason? He beat those four Pistons last year, and, after Sunday, the Spurs are just a game behind Detroit.

    Tony Parker's rise is responsible for a lot of that, and he deserves his All-Star slot. But four of the 10 Spurs' losses this season came while Ginobili sat out, and two others came when he shouldn't have been playing.

    And since he returned from his latest bruise? The Spurs have won seven in a row, including every game on this road trip.

    Sunday summed up his impact, beginning with the opening minutes. Then Ginobili had a hand in all of the points in an 11-0 start.

    He would get wild; his season high in points would be accompanied by a half-dozen turnovers. Gregg Popovich pulled him to the bench to talk to him, but the speech was subtler than one in this same building two years ago.

    Then, his frustration building because he hadn't yet understood what he had, Popovich asked: "Are you going to be a normal human being?"

    Popovich needed more time to realize that Ginobili isn't normal, and he wasn't with about a minute left Sunday. Then, after throwing in a free throw off a Pacers defensive technical, he sped to run down a Parker pass.

    He tight-roped along the mid-court line, keeping both his balance and the ball. And when he turned he was 40 feet from the basket with about four seconds left on the shot clock.

    Normal human beings don't dribble twice before tossing in a 34-footer.

    Ginobili called it lucky afterward, as did Popovich. "That's not part of the deal," Popovich said, smiling.

    Or is it? Ginobili is notorious for sinking half-court shots after practice. "He does it every day, makes it every day and gets 'oohs' and 'aahs' every day," said Tim Duncan.

    The oohs and aahs kept coming Sunday. After his 3-pointer cut the Indiana lead to one, Ginobili caught a Pacers big man, Scot Pollard, in a switch. With Pollard's back turned to him, Ginobili drove, anticipating a Pollard turn and the foul to follow.

    Ginobili's free throws gave the Spurs the lead, and two more free throws later clinched the game. In all, Ginobili scored 10 of his 29 points in the final 1:28.

    He was the difference, just as he was a year ago. And if he keeps this up, if he takes the Spurs on another playoff run, proving again he's one of the top five in the league when it counts?

    Maybe then everyone will see why some of these All Stars don't belong with him.
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  2. 02-13-2006 #2
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    Quote Originally Posted by buck
    He was the difference, just as he was a year ago. And if he keeps this up, if he takes the Spurs on another playoff run, proving again he's one of the top five in the league when it counts?
    no doubt
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  3. 02-13-2006 #3
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    And if he keeps this up, if he takes the Spurs on another playoff run, proving again he's one of the top five in the league when it counts?
    Top 5 players in the league?

    Lebron
    Wade
    Duncan
    Nash
    Billups
    Garnett
    AI
    Kobe
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    .
    .
    .
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    Top Five in the League "WHEN IT COUNTS"
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  5. 02-13-2006 #5
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    Geeze, now Manu is a superstar.... Buck Harvey again.........

    Must I go there?
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  6. 02-13-2006 #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1Parker1
    Top 5 players in the league?

    Lebron
    Wade
    Duncan
    Nash
    Billups
    Garnett
    AI
    Kobe
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    .
    .
    .
    Manu is right there in that group when it counts which is at the last minutes of a close game
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  7. 02-13-2006 #7
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    Manu isn't in that spot if not for TD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1Parker1
    Top 5 players in the league?

    Lebron
    Wade
    Duncan
    Nash
    Billups
    Garnett
    AI
    Kobe
    .
    .
    .
    .
    Considering that Duncan and Kobe are the only two to have played "when it counts" (the finals), I'd say your list is wrong.
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  9. 02-13-2006 #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter
    Manu isn't in that spot if not for TD.
    Manu has been in similar sposts without TD. The last one was as early as 2004, when he beat a TD-led team.
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  10. 02-13-2006 #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by SequSpur
    Geeze, now Manu is a superstar.... Buck Harvey again.........

    Must I go there?
    It's funny to see how ungreatful you are , shorty.
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    I saw the highlight of Manu's 3 and half the crowd in Indiana went wild when he made it!
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  12. 02-13-2006 #12
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    I would guess by Ginobili standards, he really doesn't believe he should be in the ASG..

    But there is a lot of guys going that don't deserve to be there either....

    Yao..? Gimme a break.... Unless you get voted in for being from China...

    Manu is the type of player that can be the "X" factor in any game... Remember last year when he went off for 40 against the Suns and erased a large 4th quarter deficit.

    I know one thing... If the guy was available, I would want him on my team.. Every time......And I bet there are a bunch of NBA coaches that feel the same...

    And that's what makes him an All Star....
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  13. 02-13-2006 #13
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    WHEN IT COUNTS


    Like, howabout, during the NBA Finals perhaps?

    Manu doesn't get the love, but I don't know of anyone more clutch than him.

    He's SuperMan-u. If I was choosing teams for 5-on-5 he'd be one of my five picks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1Parker1
    Top 5 players in the league?

    Lebron
    Wade
    Duncan
    Nash
    Billups
    Garnett
    AI
    Kobe
    .
    .
    .
    .
    Which of these players will be in the Finals?

    Can be: Wade, Duncan, Nash and Billups
    Can´t be: Lebron, Garnett, AI and Kobe
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    Parker Vs. Ginobilli in
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    Quote Originally Posted by smeagol
    Manu has been in similar sposts without TD. The last one was as early as 2004, when he beat a TD-led team.
    Well said.
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  17. 02-13-2006 #17
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    Manu is my favorite player in the league...followed by Nash.

    Manu is so intangible. When he's on the court, you just don't know what's gonna happen. Steals...passses...34' shots...behind the back, spinning, off-balance, reverse layups, taking a charge, getting a foul, diving for a loose ball. Who the knows what he's gonna do?

    And if in the last seconds of the game, any game...and you need to score. Manu at the top of the key is the best play in the league.

    And that's the truth
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  18. 02-13-2006 #18
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    ^ What he (or she) said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smeagol
    Manu has been in similar sposts without TD. The last one was as early as 2004, when he beat a TD-led team.
    Ouch. Somebody just got owned.
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    Sure, he needed a trapezoid lane and a zone D scrum to do it. In the NBA he's leading the Golden State Warriors to a 35-47 record.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter
    Sure, he needed a trapezoid lane and a zone D scrum to do it.
    No need to make excuses. You got owned. Take it like a man.
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    Owned by what? Put Ginobili on a team in the NBA as the first option and they'd be lucky to see the postseason.

    Go "take it like a man" from your boyfriend, chump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter
    Owned by what? Put Ginobili on a team in the NBA as the first option and they'd be lucky to see the postseason.

    Go "take it like a man" from your boyfriend, chump.

    yadda, yadda, yadda.

    You got owned. Move on.
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    When the NBA moves to FIBA rules, you kiddos might have a point.

    Until then, move on and learn a little about the game.
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  25. 02-13-2006 #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter
    Put Ginobili on a team in the NBA as the first option and they'd be lucky to see the postseason.
    so what?
    kobe, the #1 player in the league didn't make it to the playoffs last year either
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