Our Glory Days

[duncan2k5]

Tony is impressing me this season, and he is tied with timmy as my favorite player, but who thinks we should go back to our glory days of ball movement and running at every opportunity we have? i remember seeing all the nifty passes from ginobili and horry...and damn near the whole team. now its tony holding the ball more. it does make him better individually, but it bogs down the offense i think.

thats why i dont like players like stephon and steve francis. and i also think thats another reason timmy's offensive production is down (aside from the injury). and i miss the days of a more structured subs ution pattern from Pop. nowadays i get baffled at his subs. i think he and avery are the best coaches currently (i know its his second season, but avery is impressing me with his playcalling and leadership as a coach), but he needs better subs utions. and he needs to play brent more.

anyway im just nostalgic. thinking about the days when manu and tony would breakneck down the court...when horry would receive a pass at the top of the key after three nifty passes around the perimeter...when tony would be cutting to the basket and gets a cross court pass from manu, horry, or TD.

OT: I am beginning to not like Finley. he had me going nuts in our first game when he was on fire, but now he sucks. i like what nicky brings to the table, but his floater aint falling, he needs to work o that. and barry needs to play more. he was BIG in last years playoffs

[HB22inSA]

I keep driving this point home, but no one gets it yet.

Spurs need to reload soon, as in getting rid of Duncan and Ginobili while they still have high trade value and getting some more youth in here.

It really sounds like this PF thing could bother Duncan for the rest of his career, and Ginobili is getting hurt all the time, the Spurs need more of a "full-time" employee.

The days of Duncan averaging 22 and 12 are coming to an end. It'll be more like 17 and 10 in a couple of years, a sort of Robinson-like decline, except that Duncan won't have a young prodigy to "teach."


I love the combo of Chris Bosh, Jason Terry and Parker to build another team around.

It sounds ridiculous now, but in a few years, all of you will see why...

[Solid D]

I keep driving this point home, but no one gets it yet.

Spurs need to reload soon, as in getting rid of Duncan and Ginobili while they still have high trade value and getting some more youth in here.

It really sounds like this PF thing could bother Duncan for the rest of his career, and Ginobili is getting hurt all the time, the Spurs need more of a "full-time" employee.


I love the combo of Chris Bosh, Jason Terry and Parker to build another team around.

It sounds ridiculous now, but in a few years, all of you will see why...

Worst post ever.

[HB22inSA]

Worst post ever.

Well, like I said, it may take more than a few years for some of us to get it...

[Solid D]

That may be, but I "get it" now.

I'm not eating what you're serving, though.

Using your logic Rasheed Wallace should have been traded when he was suffering from Plantar Faciitis a couple of years ago, when they could get something for him.

[FromWayDowntown]

Tim Duncan is not yet 30 years old. He's stayed true to this franchise and carried it to unprecedented heights. Now, when he's in a bit of a tough time, some want to just dump him and move along?

We're talking about this after Tim put up 19 and 15, albeit in a loss?

Give me a freakin' break.

[Kori Ellis]

It really sounds like this PF thing could bother Duncan for the rest of his career, and Ginobili is getting hurt all the time, the Spurs need more of a "full-time" employee.

What makes you think PF is something that lingers for years? It usually bothers people 4-6 months.

Tim is averaging virtually the same numbers as last season and has only missed one game all year.

[slayermin]

I keep driving this point home, but no one gets it yet.

Spurs need to reload soon, as in getting rid of Duncan and Ginobili while they still have high trade value and getting some more youth in here.

If in soon you mean 6-8 years down the road, I will listen to you. But if you mean within the next two or three years, that is idiotic. This team is going to win at least one maybe two more rings before it's over.

[Kori Ellis]

2004-05 Duncan 20.3/11.1
2005-06 Duncan 19.5/11.5

His defense isn't up to par because he's slower and can't jump as well. But he's got a couple more months before the postseason. I wouldn't be packaging him already.

As far as Manu goes, timvp and I were discussing last night how many more seasons Manu will play in the NBA. Do you all think he'll make it 2010 when his contract ends?

[hussker]

What makes you think PF is something that lingers for years? It usually bothers people 4-6 months.

Tim is averaging virtually the same numbers as last season and has only missed one game all year.

Agree on all parts, and some good news...

Just spoke with some med equipment reps the other day that are getting out the newest Tech in PF treatment. Based on the same tech as the ESWL for renal stones and the preliminary studies/results are VERY PROMISING. Less recovery time from invasive procedures and less risk than depot steroids, which have risks associated as well.

[Solid D]

As far as Manu goes, timvp and I were discussing last night how many more seasons Manu will play in the NBA. Do you all think he'll make it 2010 when his contract ends?

Yes, I think Manu can make it to 2010. He may have to adjust his game like Thunder Dan Majerle did...but Manu is almost like a gymnast he's so flexible. That may count for something,

[Kori Ellis]

Yes, I think Manu can make it to 2010. He may have to adjust his game like Thunder Dan Majerle did...but Manu is almost like a gymnast he's so flexible. That may count for something,

So, you think he will have to become primarily a 3 point shooter in his last couple seasons of his contract?

[1Parker1]

AI is still going strong at 30 and I think he's injured over 50% of his body at one point or another. So there's hope for Manu

[HB22inSA]

What makes you think PF is something that lingers for years? It usually bothers people 4-6 months.

Tim is averaging virtually the same numbers as last season and has only missed one game all year.

There are several cases where people have PF as a chronic condition, even after extended periods of rest (ie, 4-6 months), whether it's related to work, how their foot is actually structured, and plenty of other factors.

And the "full-time" comment was meant for Manu, not for Tim.

[Solid D]

So, you think he will have to become primarily a 3 point shooter in his last couple seasons of his contract?

Beyond his contract, moreso, but Manu is a more accomplished passer and playmaker than Dan ever was. He has more options.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I keep driving this point home, but no one gets it yet.

Spurs need to reload soon, as in getting rid of Duncan and Ginobili while they still have high trade value and getting some more youth in here.

I'm a big picture kind of guy. You're still a ing idiot.

[Kori Ellis]

There are several cases where people have PF as a chronic condition, even after extended periods of rest (ie, 4-6 months), whether it's related to work, how their foot is actually structured, and plenty of other factors.

And the "full-time" comment was meant for Manu, not for Tim.

Name the several cases.

I know of the athletes that had it and it's lasted for four to six months and then they've never had it again.

Can you name an athlete that it was chronic?

[Kori Ellis]

Beyond his contract, moreso, but Manu is a more accomplished passer and playmaker than Dan ever was. He has more options.

I don't think Manu will play beyond this contract. And I think he'll have to make huge adjustments in his last few seasons.

[HB22inSA]

You see, my point is this, and pay attention now:

Let's deal them "now" while they still have great trade value so the Spurs can get great players.

There's no use trading Duncan when he's averaging 15 and 10 in 3 years. Who are the Spurs going to get for that?

Reload now, not later.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

You see, my point is this, and pay attention now:

Let's deal them "now" while they still have great trade value so the Spurs can get great players.

There's no use trading Duncan when he's averaging 15 and 10 in 3 years. Who are the Spurs going to get for that?

Duncan will still be averaging about 20 and 12 in 3 years.

You see my point is this - you're a ing idiot.

[HB22inSA]

Name the several cases.

I know of the athletes that had it and it's lasted for four to six months and then they've never had it again.

Can you name an athlete that it was chronic?

I'm not talking about athletes in general with that, and I don't know of any whose career was ended by that.

But, what concerns me is that Duncan got all this rest in the offseason, and then developed this in training camp.

So it's one of 2 things:

Duncan didn't "take care" of himself as well as he should have in the offseason -- or -- he may be predisposed to the condition based on leg and foot structure and things like that.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I'm not talking about athletes in general with that, and I don't know of any whose career was ended by that.

Fine, then why cry like a girl now?

But, what concerns me is that Duncan got all this rest in the offseason, and then developed this in training camp.

That's the nature of it. , he could have just as easily gone out and jumped up and come down on someone's foot the first game and tore up his ankle. Big deal.

So it's one of 2 things:

Duncan didn't "take care" of himself as well as he should have in the offseason -- or -- he may be predisposed to the condition based on leg and foot structure and things like that.

You can't take care of yourself for plantar fascitis. Injuries happen. I guess you've never played a sport in your life. I played three sports in high school and was training year round. I still got injured. Sometimes happens.

The two possibilities here for you:

1. ing
2. Idiot

[Kori Ellis]

I'm not talking about athletes in general with that, and I don't know of any whose career was ended by that.

But, what concerns me is that Duncan got all this rest in the offseason, and then developed this in training camp.

So it's one of 2 things:

Duncan didn't "take care" of himself as well as he should have in the offseason -- or -- he may be predisposed to the condition based on leg and foot structure and things like that.

Are you just making up stuff now?

Those two things don't have anything to do with plantar fasciitis.

[HB22inSA]

You see my point is this - you're a ing idiot.

You're right, I don't have enough internet time like you to be an "expert" on the Spurs.

This is the unfortunate thing about this board, when someone comes up with a view that is not the same as someone else's, name calling is the result.

It's really just very immature if you ask me.

And I really hope you don't act this way in "real" life, because you aren't "protected" by your computer screen.

[1Parker1]

Reload now, not later.

You're logic makes no sense. If you have the championship and proven players to help you win NOW, you do it. Why would you invest in the unknown...that'd be a gamble.

Duncan played through 3 ankle sprains last season and the Spurs still managed to win the trophy.

In the words of the famous timvp, "Simmer Down."