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    In the Bible, Jesus makes strong statements against divorce, asserting that it is equivalent to adultery. Consider these statistics.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/19/opinion/19coontz.html

    True or false. Born-again Christians are just as likely to divorce as other Americans.

    35% of born-again Christians in this country have divorced, almost the same as the 37% of atheists and agnostics who have divorced - and 23% of born-again Christians have divorced twice. Among Pentocostals, the divorce rate is more than 40%. The region with the highest divorce rate is the Bible Belt.

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    Well Jesus actually said that divorcing then remarrying (except for marital unfaithfulness) is adultery. But the statistic still speaks for itself.

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    Why is nobody talkin' in here?

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    We all fall short in the eyes of the Lord.

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    right-wing red-state red-neckers fall a lot shorter.

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    right-wing red-state red-neckers fall a lot shorter.
    Is that suppose to be sarcasm?

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    In the Bible, Jesus makes strong statements against divorce, asserting that it is equivalent to adultery. Consider these statistics.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/19/opinion/19coontz.html

    True or false. Born-again Christians are just as likely to divorce as other Americans.

    35% of born-again Christians in this country have divorced, almost the same as the 37% of atheists and agnostics who have divorced - and 23% of born-again Christians have divorced twice. Among Pentocostals, the divorce rate is more than 40%. The region with the highest divorce rate is the Bible Belt.
    I think it's an excellent observation. Modern day churchs are full of people who profess to be Christian but act no different than the rest of the world.

    My explanation is that most people who claim to be Christian are not. They are false converts of the faith. To be a Christian means more than just saying you accept Jesus as your personal lord and savior, it requires a turning from Sin. Romans 6 is my favorite chapter in the entire bible because it deals with this in detail.

    So in a nuts many people who claim to be Christian are not eventhough they go to church.

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    I think it's an excellent observation. Modern day churchs are full of people who profess to be Christian but act no different than the rest of the world.

    My explanation is that most people who claim to be Christian are not. They are false converts of the faith. To be a Christian means more than just saying you accept Jesus as your personal lord and savior, it requires a turning from Sin. Romans 6 is my favorite chapter in the entire bible because it deals with this in detail.

    So in a nuts many people who claim to be Christian are not eventhough they go to church.



    Critics will always want to point the finger at these "black sheep" rather than to point out all of the 'good' done by people with true character, integrity, and a defined moral slate.

    Those who relish pointing out the errors of their 'brethren' do so in an act of self justification, and many times with blatant contempt and disdain toward anything 'spiritual'.

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    Critics will always want to point the finger at these "black sheep" rather than to point out all of the 'good' done by people with true character, integrity, and a defined moral slate.

    Those who relish pointing out the errors of their 'brethren' do so in an act of self justification, and many times with blatant contempt and disdain toward anything 'spiritual'.
    or maybe, critics want to point out to the holier-than-thou bas s that Christians and religious zealots are no better than the rest of us.

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    or maybe, critics want to point out to the holier-than-thou bas s that Christians and religious zealots are no better than the rest of us.

    A valid argument.... except that the 'critics' tend to lump every Christian into their hatred... and wrongly so for many people unfortunately. Stereotypes go both ways buddy.
    Last edited by hegamboa; 02-21-2006 at 07:44 PM.

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    To be a Christian means more than just saying you accept Jesus as your personal lord and savior,...


    you are right. saying it is one thing. meaning it another.

    as for the topic, people like to point other hypocrites to alleviate their own guilt.

    my original thought to the topic was "who says they are born again?" or "who says they are true christians?"

    but we are all sinners. some of us are just trying harder to stop.

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    Is it that hard to proclaim to be a Christian if you believe doing so will bring you more material goodies?

    Anyways, the adultery hypocrisy illustrates how people don't get it. People are ready to rise up against s but somehow adultery or divorce for that matter doesn't earn the same stigma from a faith perspective.

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    Is it that hard to proclaim to be a Christian if you believe doing so will bring you more material goodies?

    Anyways, the adultery hypocrisy illustrates how people don't get it. People are ready to rise up against s but somehow adultery or divorce for that matter doesn't earn the same stigma from a faith perspective.
    You and the stereotypes.

    No doubt the church has a problem with the God will give you a good life crowd.

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    If the stereotype fits...

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    If the stereotype fits...
    stereotyping is for the ignorant. I expected a little more from you.

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    So the hypocrisy does not exist?

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    So the hypocrisy does not exist?
    hypocrisy exist, but you seemed to making a blanket statement about Christians in general. I've always been taught stereotyping is ignorant, but maybe I'm wrong.

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    If the hypocrisy is rampant enough, a blanket statement is as good as any. When you factor in divorce, adultery and premarital sex among the saved I fail to see how such an observation is "ignorant".

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    Divorce is high among Christians because the rate of early marriages is also high. I believe the reasons for this are threefold:

    - Pressure to marry early

    Cultural... Christian families value marriage in such a way that it often puts pressure on young adults to meet their "spouse" by a certain time in their lives, often earlier than most non-Christians feel they should be looking to settle down.

    - Pressure to abstain

    Many young Christians try so hard to have pure and moral relationships, fighting human urges along the way... They don't live together or even spend the night together, and thus they don't get to know each other as well as many other couples do before they are married. This often leads to quick marriages when the two are not ready for that step.

    This is not to say I think every couple should sleep together before marriage, but I think the subconscious urges to do so often contribute to eventual failed marriages. I went to a conservative Christian University and saw this quite often.

    - Pressure to marry the father of an unexpected child

    Abortion is out of the question, and often so is raising a child as a single mother (at least as a young single mother). So "Shotgun Weddings" are frequent in Christian families, most often with poor Christian families, but not always... I've been to several weddings for my peers and found out later that the first child arrived six or seven months after the ceremony.

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    As for the divorce rate of "born again" Christians, his can often be explained by the fact that not all born-again Christians' newfound beliefs are shared by their spouses. And in most Christian beliefs, it is acceptable to divorce a spouse who stands in the way of your Christian walk.

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    Critics will always want to point the finger at these "black sheep" rather than to point out all of the 'good' done by people with true character, integrity, and a defined moral slate.

    Those who relish pointing out the errors of their 'brethren' do so in an act of self justification, and many times with blatant contempt and disdain toward anything 'spiritual'.
    That's rich! Throughout history catholics and christians alike have lied, judged and murdered in the name of their "spiritual" faith!

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    Congratulations on a completely irrelevant contribution to the discussion.

    If you'd like to point out Christianity's crimes against humanity, there are plenty of opportunities to do so in the many "Islam vs. Christianity" threads.

    This is about divorce rates.

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    actually divorce rates are higher in the jewish faith..

    Variation in divorce rates by religion:

    Religion % have been divorced

    Jews 30%
    Born-again Christians 27%
    Other Christians 24%
    Atheists, Agnostics 21%

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    oh yeah source... for those facts..

    http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_dira.htm

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    but it only matters to some in here to only bash born again christians..

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