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Jesus christ, i never thought this day would come...and now i cant even move to canada becuase those ing chrisitian nutters have taken it over too.
I almost hope Roe v. Wade gets overturned (well, not really) just so all of those people that sat on their hands on election day can realize how important their decision not to vote was.
South Dakota passes abortion ban Wed Feb 22, 10:06 PM ET
South Dakota became the first U.S. state to pass a law banning abortion in virtually all cases, with the intention of forcing the Supreme Court to reconsider its 1973 decision legalizing the procedure.
The law, which would punish doctors who perform the operation with a five-year prison term and a $5,000 fine, awaits the signature of Republican Gov. Michael Rounds and people on both sides of the issue say he is unlikely to veto it.
"My understanding is we are the first state to truly defy Roe v. Wade," the 1973 high court ruling that granted a cons utional right to abortion, said Kate Looby of Planned Parenthood's South Dakota chapter.
State legislatures in Ohio, Indiana, Georgia, Tennessee and Kentucky also have introduced similar measures this year, but South Dakota's legislative calendar means its law is likely to be enacted first.
"We hope (Rounds) recognizes this for what it is: a political tool and not about the health and safety of the women of South Dakota," Looby said.
"If he chooses to sign it, we will be filing a lawsuit in short order to block it," she said after attending the afternoon debate at the state capital in Pierre.
Proponents have said the law was designed for just such a court challenge.
The timing is right, supporters say, given the recent appointments of Chief Justice John Roberts and Justice Samuel Alito to the high court. The two conservatives could pave the way to a decision overturning Roe v. Wade.
The high court said on Tuesday it will rule on whether the federal government can ban some abortion procedures, a case that could reveal whether the court reshaped by President George W. Bush will restrict abortion rights.
In 1992, the Supreme Court reaffirmed the right to abortion in Planned Parenthood v. Casey, the last direct challenge to Roe v. Wade.
The South Dakota law concludes that life begins at conception based on medical advances over the past three decades.
Proposed amendments to the law to create exceptions to specifically protect the health of the mother, or in cases of rape or incest, were voted down. Also defeated was an amendment to put the proposal in the hands of voters.
The bill as written does make an exception if the fetus dies during a doctor's attempt to save the mother's life.
Planned Parenthood operates the sole clinic in South Dakota where roughly 800 abortions are performed each year by doctors from neighboring Minnesota, Looby said.
Two years ago, Rounds vetoed a similar bill, saying it would wipe out existing restrictions on abortion while it was fought in the courts. A rewritten bill lost narrowly in the state Senate.
Some legislators opposed to abortion rights questioned whether it was premature to challenge Roe v. Wade, and said litigation would prove expensive for the sparsely populated state. An anonymous donor has offered $1 million to the state to defray the costs of litigation.
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Jesus christ, i never thought this day would come...and now i cant even move to canada becuase those ing chrisitian nutters have taken it over too.
Those people are a ing plague!
Damn I hate that cold weather but I've got work to do!!!
Just be glad your parents didn't abort you.
wouldn't he be in heaven?
It's not going to be overturned. Would bet OG life on it. Alito and Roberts
both have said they respect past rulings made by the court. But doesn't
surprise me some Pols are making a run to try and get it overturned.
I concur.
The pols are trying to take back a right the Federal Government usurped from the states 30 + years ago. The struggle against federalism is about the oldest one this country has endured; before abortion, slavery, civil rights, union busting, monopoly busting and income tax has been the constant power-grab of the federal government over the "united" but seemingly still self-governing (ha-ha) states.
If the people of S. Dakota want to ban abortions, I DON"T CARE - same as the people of Bolivia or Bangladesh. Who gives you the right to export YOUR morality on them. Self-Righteous hypocrite.
yeah right, Roberts has already defauted to the Scalia-Thomas camp on all his rulings and the only ruling Altio made away from that trio was on religious grounds when he voted to stay an execution. (Although I cant complain about the ruling I think it's ed up how he got to it)
Im just saying this is going to be the start of a major regression of womens rights in this country, and it's just too bad these fundies have so much goddamned power.
I guess he lost his shot to get in....
Ooooooo ahhhhhh
Is that what you wanted me to respond? Or was your comment trying to elicit more controversy for the sake of nothing. Let's get something straight... it's not my job to judge other people's actions.... never has been, never will be. Only GOD is in a position to judge the person behind MaNuMaNiA's screename.
I, on the other hand, was simply annoyed by his contemptful comment.
I don't know what's more disturbing...the fact that states are still trying to overturn Roe vs. Wade, or the fact that South Dakota is the one "leading" the charge..and people are actually following.
Fundies are damaging the world in every continent, not just this one. From Jihad extremeists to the BJP to the nutcakes that bomb abortion clinics and kill each other in Northern Ireland.
And the last time I checked, everytime there has been a major battle over individual rights between the federal and state governemnts.... it's been the states that have been on the wrong side.
Slavery
Segregation
Women's rights (not just reproductive)
Gay rights
the list goes on and on and on
Export the morality of not exporting morality?Who gives you the right to export YOUR morality on them.
Anyone else's head hurt?
so, you don't know?
I don't recall the last time someone died after I talked to them... I do, however, recall many instances of people dropping their addictions to drugs, of people learning to truly love their wives, learning to truly love their children, learning to let go of hate, learning to be patient, and of others who simply learned to cope with lives' problems... after having talks with them...
Yeah, and I've still got plenty of years ahead of me (GOD willing) to do more for the people around me. My father does 10x more charitable work than I do, as does my sister. But it's not about false flattery.... as I've never had to mention or 'gloat' about this before. True Christianity is demonstrated by our imprint on the needy around us. Again, not everyone who calls themselves a Christian is truly one. And yet you all feel compelled to label all of us a plague?? So be it. Just know that I 'infect' people with genuine concern, with genuine involvement in their lives and that they've been thankful for it. I would at least hope that if you are not part of the solution that you not interfere with those of us who are.
What? Whether or not babies go to heaven? I think so.... but.... you really don't want to hear what I have to say on the matter... so what's the point.
Well said. Labeling Christians as the plauge is ridiculous and completely irresponsible. Look past those that supposedly 'represent' the Christan faith ( like Pat Robertson, Billy Graham) and you will find that most that call themselves Christian really just want the morals of the country protected.
I don't think people can 'learn' to love
People saying christians are the plague are obviously referring to the Overzealous fanatic types in the mold of Kyle's Mom from south park.
The common practicing true christian is not a plague and I think that's understood already..
Good, I'm glad I'm annoying people like you. I take it that if you were annoyed, you are one of those people I referred to as the plague
P.S. I am glad, but if they had, I wouldn't have known about it, so whats your point?
ARE YOU ING SERIOUS??? slavery??
Who is to judge if the baby lives or not. They had no choice on being
conceived. You are so wrong.
It's all in the definition.
There are those that think love is simply an emotion... one that grows or decreases like a 'roller-coaster' ride.
I believe love is a decision. What do think of the following definition of love?
"Love is patient, love is kind. It is not jealous, is does not boast, it is not arrogant, it is not rude, it does not seek its own interests, it is not quick-tempered, it does not brood over injury, it does not rejoice over wrongdoing but rejoices with the truth. Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. Love never fails."
Having comtempt for your beliefs does not mean I have contempt for you. I, am able to distinguish the two as separate concepts. You have shown otherwise.
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