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    W4A1 143 43CK? Nbadan's Avatar
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    ....Lied!

    Crooks and Liars

    I wanna hear Yonivore spin this!



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    I heard about this. Doesn't make Bush look too good.

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    What they got a briefing. So did all the Dimm-o-craps in Lousyanna. Does it
    make them look bad. Oh, I forgot, only the Feds are responsible for the safety
    of citizens.

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    Standard Repug "federal government": totally, intentionally destructive incompetence covered by secrecy and lies.

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    Damn...with a name like Xray you'd think you'd be able to see Bush for what he really is.

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    "LIED" is my other middle name.

    I'm George L. Bush and I approve this message

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    Retired Ray xrayzebra's Avatar
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    Standard Repug "federal government": totally, intentionally destructive incompetence covered by secrecy and lies.

    what damn secrecy? What lies? They had the press in for the
    briefing and released the tape on August 28th. You sir, are a
    liar and cheat yourself. Because you cannot and wont speak the
    truth.

    , the fact the levies might break has been news for years.
    Get real about something real, just sometimes.

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    Retired Ray xrayzebra's Avatar
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    Damn...with a name like Xray you'd think you'd be able to see Bush for what he really is.
    I can and that is why I support him. It is folks like you I see through.

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    As usual, Dan speaks before knowing all the facts. As xray said, the briefing was done in the presence of the press on Aug 28th. Why are they just now releasing the tape - and calling it a secret tape?

    And what it shows is that the President was engaged, he signed the necessary do ents and he then expected the various agencies to do their jobs (people like the Mayor and Governor). And, at no time, was he told that the levies would definitely break. When the subject came up, they said there was the possibility that the levies would be topped - quite different from breaking. And even then, the gentleman said they couldn't say for sure what would happen.

    This is just another lame attempt by the libs to make President Bush look bad. And, again, it will fail!

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    2nd Verse Same as the 1st Oh, Gee!!'s Avatar
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    at no time, was he told that the levies would definitely break. When the subject came up, they said there was the possibility that the levies would be topped - quite different from breaking. And even then, the gentleman said they couldn't say for sure what would happen.

    sounds like someone just finished listening to the Rush Limbaugh Show

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    Retired Ray xrayzebra's Avatar
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    sounds like someone just finished listening to the Rush Limbaugh Show
    And maybe you should start listening to someone other than the left
    wing bloggers. You might find out the real truth. Not just the liberals
    dumb views.

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    2nd Verse Same as the 1st Oh, Gee!!'s Avatar
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    And maybe you should start listening to someone other than the left
    wing bloggers. You might find out the real truth. Not just the liberals
    dumb views.

    how the do you think I know who the poster was listening to in the first place, dumbass?

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    And maybe you should start listening to someone other than the left
    wing bloggers. You might find out the real truth. Not just the liberals
    dumb views.

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    Retired Ray xrayzebra's Avatar
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    Then you know what dumb statements some have made about secrecy and
    and all that crap. There was none. Right? I got hope for you OG, really do.

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    Then you know what dumb statements some have made about secrecy and
    and all that crap. There was none. Right? I got hope for you OG, really do.

    I hear a lot of things, Xray. Doesn't mean I agree.

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    I hear a lot of things, Xray. Doesn't mean I agree.
    Doesn't mean you have. I don't agree with all I hear. I just listen, observe
    and make my own decisions. All you can ask of anyone. Heck, I have
    friends who I don't agree with all the time. Doesn't mean I can be friends.
    I don't like some foods either. Does that mean I am going to starve to
    death. Don't think so.....LOL

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    W4A1 143 43CK? Nbadan's Avatar
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    As a general rule, ANYONE who uses Rush Limpballs as their primary source to counter-act a thread in this forum always gets the just ridicule that they deserve...

    hoping to counteract the damage of the story, the White House leaked Newsweek transcripts from daily noon FEMA conference calls during and after Katrina to show how engaged and concerned Dubya was. Trouble is, these are transcripts that they had initially refused to provide to congressional investigators:

    [T]he administration initially told Congress that the transcript for the Aug. 29 call -- the call congressional investigators were most curious about, given that it occurred as the hurricane was actually battering the Gulf Coast -- did not exist, with officials initially telling Capitol Hill that someone at FEMA or Homeland Security forgot to push the button on a tape recorder.

    "Everybody has been looking for that transcript,"” former FEMA chief Michael Brown said Wednesday.

    A White House official unexpectedly e-mailed the transcript to NEWSWEEK earlier today Wednesday morning -- —initially without explaining that it was the missing transcript. Two officials familiar with congressional investigations said that the do ent was turned over to Capitol Hill investigators Tuesday night. Administration officials told both Congress and NEWSWEEK that FEMA officials in Atlanta had taped the Aug. 29 conference call by aiming a video camera at a TV screen rather than following the usual recording procedure. The videotape was subsequently discovered and transcribed.


    I can't recall offhand how many times the Administration has invoked the "dog ate my homework" excuse this year, but I'd have to take off my shoes to count them.

    They really had to weigh the benefits of this one -- in order to try and prove that a narcissistic, elitist frat boy actually gave a about a bunch of dying poor people they had to bust their own lies:

    Under questioning by congressional investigators as to why he went home at 10 p.m. on Aug. 29 amid conflicting reports about flooding and levee breaches, Rapuano indicated that the administration did not believe the White House was supposed to be a command center. He says he went home believing that FEMA'’s Michael Brown had all the resources he needed and that extensive search-and-rescue efforts were under way in New Orleans. Trent Duffy, a White House spokesman, said earlier this year: "The White House is not an operational ins ution. It doesn't run the nitty-gritty in natural disasters, and it doesn't direct bombing sorties in Iraq."

    Some congressional investigators say it now seems somewhat ironic that having belatedly found the Aug. 29 conference-call transcript, the administration is now touting it as evidence of deep presidential -- and White House -- involvement in the crisis.

    Once again, the White House proves that when Congress asks for do ents for the purposes of a legitimate investigation -- well, that's just beyond the pale, executive privilege, national security, blah blah blah, fill in the blank. But leaking those very same do ents to spin the press in a convenient moment of CYA, or if something needs to be declassified as part of a larger PR smear campaign, well that's just fine and dandy.

    I don't know what deity might be brewing up this perfect storm of payback for Dubya but he does not seem to be interested in having a friendly conversation with the Boy King at the moment.
    Firedoglake


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    Once again, Dan gets his "facts" from the far-lefties!

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    W4A1 143 43CK? Nbadan's Avatar
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    So now MSNBC is a 'far-left' web-site?



    But the administration initially told Congress that the transcript for the Aug. 29 call—the call congressional investigators were most curious about, given that it occurred as the hurricane was actually battering the Gulf Coast—did not exist, with officials initially telling Capitol Hill that someone at FEMA or Homeland Security forgot to push the button on a tape recorder.

    “Everybody has been looking for that transcript,” former FEMA chief Michael Brown said Wednesday.

    A White House official unexpectedly e-mailed the transcript to NEWSWEEK earlier today Wednesday morning—initially without explaining that it was the missing transcript. Two officials familiar with congressional investigations said that the do ent was turned over to Capitol Hill investigators Tuesday night. Administration officials told both Congress and NEWSWEEK that FEMA officials in Atlanta had taped the Aug. 29 conference call by aiming a video camera at a TV screen rather than following the usual recording procedure. The videotape was subsequently discovered and transcribed.

    While the newly discovered transcript does provide new evidence of initial presidential engagement in the Katrina crisis and of conflicting information about the state of New Orleans levees on Aug. 29, it also exposes some contradictions in previous administration explanations about the role of the White House and top officials in handling the crisis.
    MSNBC

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    ^^So Dan, you think they had a secret meeting. Good.

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    ^^So Dan, you think they had a secret meeting. Good.
    Did you even bother to read the article? I'm starting to think you may have some sort of mental deficiency X-Ray. Have you seen a doctor lately?

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    My medical records are secret just like Clinton's. Oops, another secret. Sorry.

    Yeah, I read it. The word "possibly" was used how many times? And now all
    the libs are reporting it as a secret meeting. Everyone, from years ago had
    been reporting that the levees could break, there is nothing new there. Come on
    Bush did what anyone would do. Told everyone to get ready and thought they
    would. The really sad thing is that locals did nothing to help their own people and
    the people themselves did nothing to help themselves.

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    senile

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    Yeah, yeah, the media and the Democrats--sorry for the redundancy--have jumped on the Hurricane Katrina bandwagon yet again. CNN aired a report repeating the factual error that the Associated Press made yesterday, confusing breaches of the levees with overtopping of the levees. President Bush said it wasn't anticipated that the levees would be breached; the video to which Bush haters are now ejaculating doesn't contradict that statement. It talks only about the possibility of levee overtopping.

    Is it possible that all of these reporters have somehow missed all of the post-Katrina discussions about the important differences between levee overtopping (widely predicted before Katrina hit, including by CNN), and breaching of the levees, which apparently resulted from design or construction defects -- or just freak physics? It seems almost inconceivable that all of those involved in misreporting the video can claim ignorance.

    The Democrats sent out an email this afternoon that contains a flat misrepresentation:

    The tapes directly contradict Bush's now infamous claim after Katrina, "I don't think anybody anticipated the breach of the levees."
    That statement is false, and the Democrats must know it. The level of dishonesty on exhibit here is disgusting.

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    It depends on what your definition of "is" is.

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