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    Watch and learn Mavs fans, you are coming into da house of horrors.

    You are coming in with a vaunted and streaking team that has the "Feb" banner ready to hand on the rafters; and leaving with the realization deep down by the end of the night that you will know that there is always next year.

    You are coming in with in reality that despite some statistical improvement, when it counts these are the same old Mavs, except instead of 3 superstars you have one supremely talented but historically soft one in the playoffs; and some very good young players but also Keith friggin van Horn and "head case" Stackhouse.

    You are coming in with a coach that although he is doing a good job still sounds like the young kid on the car lot trying for his first sale and is still awaiting his voice change (his only saving grace is that he is a former Spur and has shown more stones in hitting a game winning shot in the playoffs than all his players put together have in their careers so far).

    You are coming in with a reserve center that incredibly makes more change a year than the Spurs reserve center.

    You are coming in and leaving quietly - out.

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    As an impartial Mav fan I must admit you do have an edge in your coach. And if Horry was playing you would have an edge with your roster.

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    The post was toungue in cheek but you are a very sage fan!

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    The one major thing I think we have going for us compared to years past is that Dirk is playing incredibly well. He appears to be getting close to his peak.. if not, and he still has a lot of growing left, watch out!

    The key is that Dirk is only 27... and Jordan and Shaq didn't win a championship until 28.. so every year Dirk gets better and better and more and more likely to break through. I still think we have some chemistry issues that need addressing though.

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    Huge difference, Dirk can't play D. Until he learns to play good D he won't win a championship.

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    This game, though important in some respects, won't make or break either team's season. If the Mavs lose, they'll still be around in May. This game isn't as big as it's being hyped.

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    This game, though important in some respects, won't make or break either team's season. If the Mavs lose, they'll still be around in May. This game isn't as big as it's being hyped.

    Totally agree. Regardless they are going to play each other in the second round. HC? The better team at that time will win, no matter where the games are played.

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    when are the one hit wonders (pistons) and the pretenders (mavericks) are goin to realise they are yesterday news.

    last season was all about legends are born, this season is about the legacy!

    GO SPURS GO

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    so every year Dirk gets better and better and more and more likely to break through
    When is he going to start working on defense?

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    when are the one hit wonders (pistons) and the pretenders (mavericks) are goin to realise they are yesterday news.

    last season was all about legends are born, this season is about the legacy!

    GO SPURS GO
    only an idiot would call the pistons one hit wonders, they have made the NBA finals the last 2 years. i hope the spurs can do that too.

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    When is he going to start working on defense?
    I don't think you have been watching the Mavs much. Dirk is a much better defender than he is given credit for. Dirk's defensive game is identical to his offensive game. In the same way that he is incredibly versatile for his size he is equally as versatile defensively. Dirk was the Mavs best defensive center in the playoffs.. and our best defender on Nash in the playoffs. That is incredible versatility. No he isn't a stopper on the perimeter or the post.. but he can hold his very well. If used properly this can be a great asset defensively.

    Dirk's teammates have always made him look much worse defensively than he is. If you switched scenarios at the beginning of their careers -- Duncan playing next to Shawn Bradley.. and Dirk playing next to Drob.. who knows how things might have turned out differently today.

    As Ducnan in the Olympics has shown us recently.. who a player has around him is key........

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    Totally agree. Regardless they are going to play each other in the second round. HC? The better team at that time will win, no matter where the games are played.

    Disagree. HC advantage means a LOAD to a team that knocks down free throws at a very high percentage.

    Let us not forget where the game was located the night the Mavs-Spurs playoff in 2003 when the Mavs shot like 51 free throws

    (FIVE-ONE!!)

    Great thread, btw.

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    I don't think you have been watching the Mavs much. Dirk is a much better defender than he is given credit for. Dirk's defensive game is identical to his offensive game. In the same way that he is incredibly versatile for his size he is equally as versatile defensively. Dirk was the Mavs best defensive center in the playoffs.. and our best defender on Nash in the playoffs. That is incredible versatility. No he isn't a stopper on the perimeter or the post.. but he can hold his very well. If used properly this can be a great asset defensively.
    I think Dirk is a better defender now than he was a couple of years ago, but I still think he relies WAY too much on swatting at the ball rather than moving his feet to gain and maintain position defensively. He's not a particularly good man defender in the post, but he's a decent off-the-ball shotblocker and he can create problems with his length when he rotates.

    Dirk's teammates have always made him look much worse defensively than he is. If you switched scenarios at the beginning of their careers -- Duncan playing next to Shawn Bradley.. and Dirk playing next to Drob.. who knows how things might have turned out differently today.
    David Robinson didn't MAKE Tim Duncan a great defender. Timmy was a great defender leaving college. David may have aided Tim's transition into the NBA, but Tim was and remains a great defender because that has always been one of his great strenghts. Timmy would have been a great defender playing next to Bradley or anyone else.

    Likewise, while I think David Robinson may have been able to cover for some of Dirk's defensive failings, I don't think being a great defender is a matter of osmosis.

    If you switch Tim Duncan and Dirk Nowitzki at the beginning of their careers, the Mavericks have a couple of les, most likely, and the Spurs are still looking for more post defense and hoping to unseat the Mavericks.

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    ...the Mavs-Spurs playoff in 2003 when the Mavs shot like 51 free throws

    (FIVE-ONE!!)

    Great thread, btw.
    worst......



    game.......



    ever.

    Bavetta should have been shot after that travesty.

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    Bavetta should have been shot after that travesty.
    Is that just a matter of general principle?

    Bavetta wasn't on the floor for that game -- the officials were Ron Garretson, Bennett Salvatore, and Greg Willard.

    Boxscore

    Dallas outshot the Spurs 50-48 in attempts and 49-31 in makes.

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    I'm already facing reality on my own, thank you very much.

    No matter who wins, however (coughspurscough), these are two good teams who have been playing well, and it should be an exciting game to watch.

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    Adrienne, stop trying to jinx us by saying Spurs will win! I'm onto you're little tactics...

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    Is that just a matter of general principle?

    Bavetta wasn't on the floor for that game -- the officials were Ron Garretson, Bennett Salvatore, and Greg Willard.

    Boxscore

    Dallas outshot the Spurs 50-48 in attempts and 49-31 in makes.
    FWD,

    I expect you to check my facts in the PF, but damn, slamming in here...

    remembered it COMPLETELY wrong.

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    From that boxscore, however:

    I really miss that Timmy.

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    Dirk's teammates have always made him look much worse defensively than he is. If you switched scenarios at the beginning of their careers -- Duncan playing next to Shawn Bradley.. and Dirk playing next to Drob.. who knows how things might have turned out differently today.

    As Ducnan in the Olympics has shown us recently.. who a player has around him is key........
    Lamest argument ever. It's amazing that you followed it up with the

    Lamest
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    I honestly think the bigger game is in April. Nevertheless, this is a statement game for both teams. Dallas to show San Antonio that they will not lie down to the defending world champions. San Antonio to show Dallas that we are still the world champions and you have to beat us in our house to get to where you want to go.

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    Is that just a matter of general principle?

    Bavetta wasn't on the floor for that game -- the officials were Ron Garretson, Bennett Salvatore, and Greg Willard.

    Boxscore

    Dallas outshot the Spurs 50-48 in attempts and 49-31 in makes.
    doesn't matter which official was on the floor salvatore=bavetta=hosejob

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    Dirk will be screaming at his teamates in disgust by the end of the night.

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    (his only saving grace is that he is a former Spur and has shown more stones in hitting a game winning shot in the playoffs than all his players put together have in their careers so far).
    ouch. ouch. ........I love it.

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    FWD,

    I expect you to check my facts in the PF, but damn, slamming in here...

    remembered it COMPLETELY wrong.
    Nothing personal, 101, I assure you. That game was an abomination (though the Spurs had only themselves to blame for losing) but it wasn't Bavetta's fault (this time -- there are certainly other instances in which Bavetta's calls could be questioned).

    For some reason, I have this funny feeling that Salvatore might be calling the game tonight.

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