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    Mahinmi in ? picnroll's Avatar
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    Im a purist. The rules is the rules. I dont care if you call it on us. I expect our players to adapt and play by the rules. I also expect them to take advantage of rules violations that arent being called.

    When I decided to do this blog, after reading the comments from Sam Mitc in Marc Stein’s article saying that he agreed with Phil Jacksons comments that officials were nervous nellies in Dallas, I had our guys go through and do a quick run through of our last game and what we thought were calls that we could discuss and were there any issues we should address.

    We are not going to send this into the league. Its just a sample. You can buy a copy of the game here, and do your own analysis and send it to me. If its good, I might even post it. If its great, maybe I will hire you to do these for me . And as far as issues that our guys thought we might be worth addressing with the league, we are looking at carrying the ball on drives to the basket. We want to see if players may be getting an advantage by taking mutiple steps per dribble while the ball is still on their hand. If we can get enough examples, we will send it in. If we dont, it means it was in our imagination and we wont.

    This is an example of an email we would send to the league. Its just a first pass, so it has some of the comments we make in review and its far from complete. Im sure we have missed a couple. But as i said, we are not turning it into the league. If someone out there thinks this could turn officials into nervous nellies when they come to dallas, well, thats an explanation i would be curious to see

    1. Posted Mar 4, 2006, 7:01 PM ET by Mark Cuban
    1st

    8:28 Grey Call - Touch foul on Dirk as Duncan goes to the hoop.

    6:30 Missed No Call – Dirk fouls Mohammed.

    3:21 Grey Call - Ttouch foul on Dirk LBF over Finley back. There is much more contact at other parts of the game with no calls. Ask if they think this and the first foul should have been called

    2:17 Bad Call - Travelling on Duncan, He did not travel.

    1:04 Missed No Call – Parker Carry the ball.

    2nd

    10:08 Good Call – exactly 3 sec call on Keith Van Horn. Check to see if they call these as quickly rest of night

    9:57 Missed call and then into a bad call. Horry sets an illegal pick on Griffin, but the foul is called on Griffin. Horry is still moving on the pick.

    9”40 Missed No call. Horry fouls Stackhouse

    9:09 Missed no call. Duncan 3 sec in the lane. In at 9:12 and still in at 9:09. Same as the call on Van Horn.

    9:02 Questionable call. Foul on Dampier (Same official makes 3 similar calls vs. Dampier). Has a hand up, does not initiate the contact, ask if these should have been called a foul.

    8:45 Missed no call. Horry hits Keith Van Horn to the hoop.

    8:32 Missed no call – Mohammed 3 seconds. In at 8:35 and still in the lane at 8:29 when foul called on Dampier.

    8:04 Missed no call - Jason Terry steps on the mid court line going for the ball. Is this a violation if ball doesnt cross half court line

    7:26-7:17 – Missed no calls. Several re-routes by Bowen on Dirk.

    6:40 Missed no call. Defensive 3 seconds on Bowen

    6:31 Missed no call Body foul on Bowen vs. Daniels. Bowen is still moving when Daniels picks up the ball going to the hoop.

    5:37 Good call contact by bowen vs. Terry to hoop. Jason thought this was a foul when it happened

    5:21 Bad Call – Howard reach in foul on Mohammed. Doesnt appear official can see the play with out looking through Mohammed.

    4:08 Missed no call. Parker offensive foul. Parker drives baseline and jumps back into Dirk to get the shot off. I believe this was a point of emphasis call on video before the season. Ask if it still applies.

    3:25 Missed no call. Lot of contact by Bowen on jumper by Howard

    2:58 Missed no call. Offensive foul committed by Daniels on Parker.

    7.5 Missed no call. Van Horn tries a three pointer, gets hit by Horry AND is not allowed to come down. If this isn’t a foul, then we should start teaching this defensive method.



    3rd Period

    8:30 Missed no call - Duncan hits Howard on the way to hoop.

    9”04 Missed no call – Duncan takes extra step and travels.

    8:39 Questionable no call. - Again, lot of contact by Bowen on Dirk.

    8:03 Missed no call. Howard hit going to hoop. Hit by both Ginobli and Mohammed.

    7:41 Bad Call - Call is oK, but Corbin calls it a shooting foul.

    5:44 Bad call - Offensive foul on Dirk. Dirk is set and Parker just runs into the screen. Once again Bavetta has to look right through Dirk to see the play.

    4:20 Missed no call. Jason Terry to hoop is hit from behind by Parker and in front by Mohammed.

    3:32 Bad Call - Not a foul by Duncan.

    3:13 Bad call. - Parker post up in lane on Terry. Very little contact if any. Less that then no call at 4:20.

    2:43 Bad call – No foul on Ginobli vs. Dirk. No contact on the shot.

    2:28 Missed no call - On rebound Horry pushes Dampier in the back. If you will note there are three or four times in this game that Horry just pushes people from behind.

    1:28 Missed no call. Travel by Mohammed.

    47.3 Missed no call. Horry leans into Dirk while setting a screen for a three point shooter.

    4th period

    9:25 Missed no call. Finley hits Stackhouse on jumper.

    8:13 Good call. Howard thought he gets hit on jump shot.

    4:01 Bad Call - three second call on Dampier. Wasnt 3 seconds. If he called it on Griffin, it is right at the 3 sec mark. Once again if this is a violation, there were a ton missed tonight.

    3:08 Missed no call – Mohammed 3 seconds.

    1:14 Missed no call – Duncan 3 seconds. In a 1:17, and still in a 1:11 when the shot is taken.

    1:09 Missed no call - Horry hooks and flings Stackhouse’s arm on a rebound. This is the start of the incident.

    1:04 Missed no call - Both Horry/Stack- Horry pushes Stackhouse in the back running down the lane. Then Stackhouse goes at him.

    26.9 Missed no call - Jason Terry gets hit on elbow during 3 point shot attempt
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    Sleeping With The Original Axis of Evil hussker's Avatar
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    Here's what I take from that blog entry.

    The Spurs got over 200 calls in their favor.

    Keith Van Horn was in the lane for 2.99999999 seconds. Other than that, we(Mavs) did no wrong, and may God have mercy on your souls.

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    Since you probably didn't read it, he mentions one time when he sent in a tape, the league found more violations for a mavs player than the other team. And in the list mark made of missed calls there are plently against the mavericks.

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    i couldnt help but add a comment

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    I'm sure someone paid by Mark Cuban is going to be oh so unbiased reviewing a tape.

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    Mahinmi in ? picnroll's Avatar
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    Since you probably didn't read it, he mentions one time when he sent in a tape, the league found more violations for a mavs player than the other team. And in the list mark made of missed calls there are plently against the mavericks.
    5 calls/no calls in the first quarter.
    2 favoring Mavs, 3 favoring Spurs.

    16 calls/no calls in the second quarter (Cuban listed one more, but that was a good 3sec call that he wants to use to bash subsequent bad 3sec no-calls).
    2 favoring Mavs, 14 favoring Spurs.

    13 calls/no calls in the third quarter.
    2 favoring Mavs, 11 favoring Spurs.

    8 calls/no calls in the fourth.
    1 favoring Mavs, 7 favoring Spurs.

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    When he sprinkles in the ones that favored the Mavs is he really sincere or just trying to show that he is "unbiased"? This email reminds me of when your in middle school and the english teacher wants you to write a essay on the pros and cons of something that you really believe. Cuban has no credibility and can hardly be taken seriously when he says "Im a purist. The rules is the rules. I dont care if you call it on us. I expect our players to adapt and play by the rules." If he wanted his players to adapt to the calls he wouldn't make his concerns about officials so public.

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    Mahinmi in ? picnroll's Avatar
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    What was funny was when Cuban whined to the league about Yao's moving screens and they call some on him when it was Dirk and Nash that had set the standard for sveral years.

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    Missed something.

    I have questioned quite a few things about the NBA. Publicly and privately.

    To Commissioner Stern’s credit, he has always at least absorbed the commentary from me. Sometimes Im right, sometimes not. At times, my approach may even be counter productive. Im far from perfect when it comes to trying to elicit change. And when Im wrong. Im ok with that as well.

    As a partner, I would rather offer up a topic for discussion and be told Im wrong, or even ignored, then not present my perspective. You never know the impact if you dont communicate. Its usually just a short and simple email from me for someone in the NBA to read and respond to, or not.

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    I cannot grok its fullnes leemajors's Avatar
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    i think it is either a mistake to continually get on the officials like this, or the greatest smokescreen ever. the mavs let their owner take most of the heat complaining about officiating and go about their business... or the team gets caught up in thinking about officiating and loses focus. from what i have seen, the best teams don't get caught up in that kinda stuff, and let the game play itself out (for the most part). i would like to see avery injected with a truth serum and be forced to answer what he thinks about all of that - he may just be satisfied with cubes occupying himself like that while he runs the team, who knows...

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    At least the Maverick fans can blame their owner for being whiners.
    what's everyone's excuse in here?

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    Talk is cheap and so is Holt! Peter's Avatar
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    He's a fan who happens to be the owner. Great in some respects, but when his team loses....lookout!

    There's nothing a billionaire with a modem can't about.

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    "Missed No Call" is like saying "Bad Ugly Haircut". It's just a "No Call"...

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    Talk is cheap and so is Holt! Peter's Avatar
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    I'll also add that the Mavs are in the Metroplex, the home of y, whiney sports fans who believe their hometown teams are en led to the championship, even in a rebuilding year.

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    I think it's great that Cuban has built his team around a culture of whining. Spurs are built by Pop and Silver Star Holt around a culture of toughness. When they complain and feel they got jobbed on a call they get back on D, focus and respond positively. Teams like the whiny Mavs on the other hand complain, loose focus and screw up when they feel they got jobbed.

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    brokeback influence?

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    5:44 Bad call - Offensive foul on Dirk. Dirk is set and Parker just runs into the screen. Once again Bavetta has to look right through Dirk to see the play.

    47.3 Missed no call. Horry leans into Dirk while setting a screen for a three point shooter.
    These are the two calls that really got me going in that game. The first one was especially bull .

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    Cuban's little legions fall in line.

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    Talk is cheap and so is Holt! Peter's Avatar
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    So either the refs called an incredibly skewed game or the Mavs got beat by a better team.

    I can't wait until I see Cuban claim this summer that the Mavs won the 'real championship'.

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    Mark Cuban made the "Dairy Queen" comments a few years ago and said it was due to the fact that superstars get all the calls. Only trouble is he made the comments after a game against the Spurs that Tim Duncan fouled out of.

    Bottom line: He's completely full of . He's not a purist. He's not even very knowledgable about basketball. He's an idiot fan with a lot of money and a big mouth. The only difference between him and Mavsfan1000 is that Cuban owns the team. If Mavsfan1000 owned the Mavericks at least I'd get tickets from time to time.

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    You know, I really wish they would call every single, itty bitty, ticky-tack foul. That way, a regular NBA basketball game would last about 8 hours...have no flow or continuity, and turn into nothing but a free throw shooting contest.

    Holy , that sounds like fun.

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    Out with the old... Obstructed_View's Avatar
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    That happened after Ray Allen faked his ankle injury in the playoffs. It wasn't compelling basketball.

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    Why are there so many whiny threads about so many whiny Mavs fans?

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    You know, I really wish they would call every single, itty bitty, ticky-tack foul. That way, a regular NBA basketball game would last about 8 hours...have no flow or continuity, and turn into nothing but a free throw shooting contest.

    Holy , that sounds like fun.
    Kind of like that barn burner in the Spurs - Mavericks 2003 playoff game 1. Wonder if the Cubic man blogged that one.

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