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    I was wondering what you guys think of this. Tim has been struggling mightily this year, and no i'm not saying his career is over but with his nagging PF problem he isn't even half the player he used to be. having said all this, i think our number one option should be manu followed by TP and THEN Duncan. Doing 4 down with a gimpy td isn't gonna cut it come playoff time. Yes, i expect his number to improve during the playoffs as they always do but Tim's assissts have improved greatly and i think instead of him trying to force shots on a sore heel, we should run our offense through Manu. any thoughts on this from you guys, I mean I know this is Tim's team but I think with the injury this is the time to maybe have him do more of a D. Rob in his later years role for the playoffs and maybe have him concentrate more on D.

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    Well.... all of that would depend on Manu's health.

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    That's one of the great things about our team, we don't have to depend on just one guy to be our #1 option. I think it will depend on the game. Whoever is hot should be our #1 option, and that is more than likely to be 2 or 3 people at any one time.

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    good point

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    I think this is dumb. Tim is not the first option on offense currently... but the offense does go THRU him everytime. Don't you understand? Tim gets the ball and he's the quarterback that sets everything up, everyone comes to him and Tim finds the open man; this sets up a series of passes that the defenders try to hurry to catch up to... but defenders don't run as fast as a pass goes, so someone always gets an easier shot attempt... THANX TO TIM.

    Another thing, "He's not even half the player he used to be"? I think you're too caught up on stats. Tim is hurting but he's still pretty damn good on one leg.

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    I don't get it. You think Tim shouldn't be our #1 option in the playoffs because he's been playing a little below average due to an injury, yet Manu is excused for the same thing and still deserves to be the #1 option??

    Besides, it doesn't work like that with our team. As Spurschick said, it depends on the game, on the opponent, and who's playing well that game, etc. It doesn't have to be something that's set in stone.

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    I think this is dumb. Tim is not the first option on offense currently... but the offense does go THRU him everytime. Don't you understand? Tim gets the ball and he's the quarterback that sets everything up, everyone comes to him and Tim finds the open man; this sets up a series of passes that the defenders try to hurry to catch up to... but defenders don't run as fast as a pass goes, so someone always gets an easier shot attempt... THANX TO TIM.

    Another thing, "He's not even half the player he used to be"? I think you're too caught up on stats. Tim is hurting but he's still pretty damn good on one leg.

    he's damn good on one leg but the duncan with 2 legs was twice the player. tim's hurting right now and its affected him in virtually every category. i think its time we let manu take the reigns (health permitting). I'm not saying freeze tim out, of course we need him, but 4 down should be deleted from the playbook this playoffs if his PF is still bugging him

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    That's one of the great things about our team, we don't have to depend on just one guy to be our #1 option. I think it will depend on the game. Whoever is hot should be our #1 option, and that is more than likely to be 2 or 3 people at any one time.
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    spurschick is right.


    There is no #1 option.

    Whoever is hot in the current game, keep shooting. That's pretty much the best option. Whether it's TP, Manu, Tim, Finley...Barry. Get the ball to the guy who is feelin it.

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    I don't get it. You think Tim shouldn't be our #1 option in the playoffs because he's been playing a little below average due to an injury, yet Manu is excused for the same thing and still deserves to be the #1 option??

    Besides, it doesn't work like that with our team. As Spurschick said, it depends on the game, on the opponent, and who's playing well that game, etc. It doesn't have to be something that's set in stone.
    manu can still take over a game. i think his health has greatly improved and come playoff time he should be fully healthy whereas Tim could most likely still have the PF. however, i dont think we should force feed manu if he's cold. of course give it tot he player who's hot during the game but I dont think we should automatically make tim the #1 option with his injury as we have in years passed.

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    of course give it tot he player who's hot during the game but I dont think we should automatically make tim the #1 option with his injury as we have in years passed.
    They won't.


    Tim hasn't been shooting as much recently, which shows that we don't need to depend on him.

    Whenever TP or Manu are hot, they are pretty much unstoppable. If they both are in the same game, the other team is screwed.


    With all of our depth, I am going to count on either Finley, Barry, or Horry exploding off the bench. No, it's not something we should rely on, but it will eventually happen.

    Game 5.

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    They won't.


    Tim hasn't been shooting as much recently, which shows that we don't need to depend on him.

    Whenever TP or Manu are hot, they are pretty much unstoppable. If they both are in the same game, the other team is screwed.


    With all of our depth, I am going to count on either Finley, Barry, or Horry exploding off the bench. No, it's not something we should rely on, but it will eventually happen.

    Game 5.
    interesting take. I know I'm one of the most pessimistic people on this board but to be honest I'm more confident in this team during this tiem of the season than ever before this year. I think we'll make it to the finals just fine but my worry is detroit. we barely got by them last year and with a weaker tim to go along with our much weaker rebounding and lack of HCA, that part of the playoffs scares me

    also i should rephrase i think manu should be our "primary" option but of course, whoevers hot deserves the ball

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    manu can still take over a game. i think his health has greatly improved and come playoff time he should be fully healthy whereas Tim could most likely still have the PF.
    Manu Stats Past 5 GAMES:

    Hornets: 0-5, 5 points
    Suns: 4-9, 14 points
    Warriors: 3-8, 10 points
    Nuggets, 8-14, 26 points
    Blazers: 5-9, 16 points

    Average: 14.2 ppg last 5 games

    Duncan Stats Past 5 GAMES:

    Hornets: 6-9, 17 points
    Suns: 9-17, 20 points
    Warriors: 10-18, 21 points
    Nuggets: 8-18, 22 points
    Blazers: 3-7, 6 points

    Average: 17.2 ppg last 5 games

    I'd say Tim's feeling pretty good recently also.

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    Detroit will be tough, but ANYTHING can happen.

    Miami could explode, Detroit could suffer an injury...there's an endless list of things that might happen, and they aren't even worth worrying about until they actually happen.

    We have to reach the finals, step by step, game by game.

    No need to worry about what might happen, until it becomes a serious threat.


    who knows what will happen.

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    As long as Tim Duncan is a starter on this team, no way will he be a "3rd option" come playoff time.

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    Manu Stats Past 5 GAMES:

    Hornets: 0-5, 5 points
    Suns: 4-9, 14 points
    Warriors: 3-8, 10 points
    Nuggets, 8-14, 26 points
    Blazers: 5-9, 16 points

    Average: 14.2 ppg last 5 games

    Duncan Stats Past 5 GAMES:

    Hornets: 6-9, 17 points
    Suns: 9-17, 20 points
    Warriors: 10-18, 21 points
    Nuggets: 8-18, 22 points
    Blazers: 3-7, 6 points

    Average: 17.2 ppg last 5 games

    I'd say Tim's feeling pretty good recently also.
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    I don't see why the it matters.

    "1st option", "2nd option", "3rd option"... they have no meening, or at least they shouldn't.



    All that matters is that the Spurs win.

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    The game is played inside out. If you don't believe it, see the historic troubles and struggles of teams like Phx and the Mavs

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    "we don't have to depend on just one guy to be our #1 option"

    yes, we do. Tim crippled with PF will be Spurs crippled. People have been saying the Spurs are horrible on second of B2B because Tim is so bad on the 2nd night.

    Tim looked extremely bouncy and light-footed last night to start the game, I thought he was gonna have an MVP game, then kinda disappeared with a single-single.

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    "we don't have to depend on just one guy to be our #1 option"

    yes, we do. Tim crippled with PF will be Spurs crippled. People have been saying the Spurs are horrible on second of B2B because Tim is so bad on the 2nd night.

    Tim looked extremely bouncy and light-footed last night to start the game, I thought he was gonna have an MVP game, then kinda disappeared with a single-single.

    boutons once again!

    the game is played inside out but when your inside game is hurting terribbly you shouldn't force the issue

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    I think Tim should. We all saw what happened when he wasn't two years ago. And if he's better, than why not? We are NOT going to repeat if he isn't our number 1. Manu and Tony will have to chip in though considerably, but I definitely want Tim as our number 1 option.

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    Tim is still double teamed whenever he gets the ball, so he still gets touches.

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    I think Tim should. We all saw what happened when he wasn't two years ago. And if he's better, than why not? We are NOT going to repeat if he isn't our number 1. Manu and Tony will have to chip in though considerably, but I definitely want Tim as our number 1 option.

    you mean going 30 minutes a game during the laker series without an FG. that wasn't his team mates fault, that was purely tim's

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    you mean going 30 minutes a game during the laker series without an FG. that wasn't his team mates fault, that was purely tim's
    I never said that. Parker was our number 1 option that year and look what happened.

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    there's a good point there, but i think pop wont even call for 4 down, except in very specific situations

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