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    Pop is on purpose not give the ball to Manu in the 4th quarters, or late in shot clocks at the top of the key for a reason.

    1) He doesn't want him to get hurt but mainly

    2) He wants teams in the playoffs to have the least possible experience/film on how to stop that as possible.

    It's gonna be like our secret weapon in the playoffs, Manu running the 1-4 in the 4th quarter, like last year.


    Or maybe the secret weapon will be our rebounding...

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    Hope so, sounds like it could be a CIA Pop plan.

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    Unfortunately Pop isn't that creative. It generally has to do with the fact Pop follows Tim around with his lips firmly planted on Duncan's ass, and everything else is secondary.

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    Hope so, sounds like it could be a CIA Pop plan.
    if CIA stands for "idiot" then yes

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    Unfortunately Pop isn't that creative. It generally has to do with the fact Pop follows Tim around with his lips firmly planted on Duncan's ass, and everything else is secondary.
    And the fact that Duncan was having a good game and Manu was probably the 1a option on that play.

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    ...waiting for Aggie and Amused to become Mavericks fans...

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    Suppose there never was an Aaron? aaronstampler's Avatar
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    Manu should have gotten it at the top of the key Kori. It's pretty sorry that we can let Ray Allen get the ball at the end of the game but Tim or Manu don't get it for us...

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    ...waiting for Aggie and Amused to become Mavericks fans...

    NOT gonna happen


    like Kori says, everything will be back to normal tommorow

    i just need to vent

    I'll be fine

    I think

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    waiting for Aggie and Amused to become Mavericks fans...
    Waiting for dip homers to recognize that just because we don't toe to the party line it doesn't mean we're quitting on our team. ing A. I hate homers like you.

    Shut down the damn forum then if you don't want any discussion. We just lost to one of the pussiest teams in the league that is led by Vagina Allen and Bob Hill. I guess we should be happy about that.

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    Tim was waiting for, wanting the ball in the low block on the inbounds pass, which was probably a mistake since the Sonics knew he was the main option with Manu inbouding.

    So many stupid mistakes to give away what would have been a great comeback W.

    1 - 2 on the road trip, with 2 more tough games against playoff teams.

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    Waiting for dip homers to recognize that just because we don't toe to the party line it doesn't mean we're quitting on our team. ing A. I hate homers like you.

    Shut down the damn forum then if you don't want any discussion. We just lost to one of the pussiest teams in the league that is led by Vagina Allen and Bob Hill. I guess we should be happy about that.
    First of all, since you seem to have NO sense of humor whatsoever, let me preface this post by letting you know that it is written tongue in cheek.

    So you are allowed to throw a ing hissy fit, but nobody is allowed to rib you about it? Seriously, the Spurs have lost sixteen games, and are still in the running for best record, and are probably heavy favorites to win another le.

    "I hate homers like you." What are you? 6? Well, oh yeah? I hate crying little spoiled pussies like you that don't appreciate a good team when you've got it and tie your ing iden y into individual wins and losses. Are you like those guys that beat up their wives when their team loses? Seriously. There are like 30 cities that would give almost anything to have the success your team has had, and you unload on them because they lost a ing game?

    You certainly don't have to be happy about it, but you actually sound like you dislike Duncan and Pop after a loss. That's weak. At least Amused can laugh about it. Besides, if you are going to whine like a little girl with pigtails on a public board, be prepared to get over it.

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    Seriously, the Spurs have lost sixteen games, and are still in the running for best record,
    Losing games to pansy teams like Seattle isn't going to get us to the best record.

    and are probably heavy favorites to win another le.
    Seen Detroit play?

    Look, I'll clue you in. You're relatively new here. I care about one thing - rings. Everything else is irrelevant. This team struggles on the road, but is awesome at home.

    I really, truly in my heart believe that the Finals will come down to a game 7 again. And I like our chances a of a lot more at the SBC than at the Palace. This team has shown a propensity to roll over and shrivel into the fetal position in situations like the one we'd face in a game 7 at the Palace.

    And sooner or later you can't count on Rober Horry to bail you out.

    Like I said, the ring is the thing. Everything else is secondary. I guess the most frustrating fact about tonight is I saw Pop's trademark stubborness coming out and it cost us a loss.

    He refused to tweak his defensive game plan even when it wasn't working. They got what they wanted every time we switched the pick and roll, and it showed in their confidence at the offensive end.

    Further, all the switching totally trashed our help defense, and Seattle roamed the offensive glass in the second half. That's not Spurs defense.

    And finally, we have the overreliance on Tim Duncan at the end of games. I swear if the league would let him do it that Pop would just run two players out there at the end of the game when we need a bucket - Tim and someone to pass him in the ball.

    We have one of the most creative players in the league, a guy who can get to the bucket at will and is one of our best free throw shooters in Manu. And he's constantly reduced to being the ing inbounds man or stuck on the weakside while we are subjected to watching Tim try and pull something out of his ass at the end of games when the other team knows where the ball is going and gears for it.

    We've lost probably five times as many games at the end with the ball in Duncan's hands as we've won, and yet people still seem bemused when we force it to Duncan and like tonight happens.

    Yet the moment you suggest an alternative you get all the "Duncan is the greatest in the game, he's our best player" thrown back in your face.

    Well BFD. Jordan was the greatest to ever play the game, and I seem to recall him letting a few other guys (BJ Armstrong and Steve Kerr, among others) help him win all his rings.

    So yeah, it pisses me off when homers like yourself act like the moment someone questions the wisdom of forcing it to Duncan for the 38,238th time they are ready to go be a Mavs fan.

    And your original post wasn't made with any sarcasm, all I saw was you running around on 2-3 threads calling out anyone who said anything bad about the team tonight.

    Like I said, the rings are the thing. And if Pop is going to be as ing stubborn in the playoffs as he was tonight, I don't even think we'll make it out of the west. And yeah, that sure as pisses me off.

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    but you actually sound like you dislike Duncan and Pop after a loss.
    I dislike our stubborness and the apparent worldview of Popovich that he only has one player he needs to think about getting the ball to at the end of the game. Great defensive coach, sucks hind at the other end.

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    Losing games to pansy teams like Seattle isn't going to get us to the best record.



    Seen Detroit play?

    Look, I'll clue you in. You're relatively new here. I care about one thing - rings. Everything else is irrelevant. This team struggles on the road, but is awesome at home.

    I really, truly in my heart believe that the Finals will come down to a game 7 again. And I like our chances a of a lot more at the SBC than at the Palace. This team has shown a propensity to roll over and shrivel into the fetal position in situations like the one we'd face in a game 7 at the Palace.

    And sooner or later you can't count on Rober Horry to bail you out.

    Like I said, the ring is the thing. Everything else is secondary. I guess the most frustrating fact about tonight is I saw Pop's trademark stubborness coming out and it cost us a loss.

    He refused to tweak his defensive game plan even when it wasn't working. They got what they wanted every time we switched the pick and roll, and it showed in their confidence at the offensive end.

    Further, all the switching totally trashed our help defense, and Seattle roamed the offensive glass in the second half. That's not Spurs defense.

    And finally, we have the overreliance on Tim Duncan at the end of games. I swear if the league would let him do it that Pop would just run two players out there at the end of the game when we need a bucket - Tim and someone to pass him in the ball.

    We have one of the most creative players in the league, a guy who can get to the bucket at will and is one of our best free throw shooters in Manu. And he's constantly reduced to being the ing inbounds man or stuck on the weakside while we are subjected to watching Tim try and pull something out of his ass at the end of games when the other team knows where the ball is going and gears for it.

    We've lost probably five times as many games at the end with the ball in Duncan's hands as we've won, and yet people still seem bemused when we force it to Duncan and like tonight happens.

    Yet the moment you suggest an alternative you get all the "Duncan is the greatest in the game, he's our best player" thrown back in your face.

    Well BFD. Jordan was the greatest to ever play the game, and I seem to recall him letting a few other guys (BJ Armstrong and Steve Kerr, among others) help him win all his rings.

    So yeah, it pisses me off when homers like yourself act like the moment someone questions the wisdom of forcing it to Duncan for the 38,238th time they are ready to go be a Mavs fan.

    And your original post wasn't made with any sarcasm, all I saw was you running around on 2-3 threads calling out anyone who said anything bad about the team tonight.

    Like I said, the rings are the thing. And if Pop is going to be as ing stubborn in the playoffs as he was tonight, I don't even think we'll make it out of the west. And yeah, that sure as pisses me off.
    Bottom Line: Anything less than a championship is a complete failure. a team with this roster shouldn' have to settle for second place

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    Losing games to pansy teams like Seattle isn't going to get us to the best record.



    Seen Detroit play?

    Look, I'll clue you in. You're relatively new here. I care about one thing - rings. Everything else is irrelevant. This team struggles on the road, but is awesome at home.

    I really, truly in my heart believe that the Finals will come down to a game 7 again. And I like our chances a of a lot more at the SBC than at the Palace. This team has shown a propensity to roll over and shrivel into the fetal position in situations like the one we'd face in a game 7 at the Palace.

    And sooner or later you can't count on Rober Horry to bail you out.

    Like I said, the ring is the thing. Everything else is secondary. I guess the most frustrating fact about tonight is I saw Pop's trademark stubborness coming out and it cost us a loss.

    He refused to tweak his defensive game plan even when it wasn't working. They got what they wanted every time we switched the pick and roll, and it showed in their confidence at the offensive end.

    Further, all the switching totally trashed our help defense, and Seattle roamed the offensive glass in the second half. That's not Spurs defense.

    And finally, we have the overreliance on Tim Duncan at the end of games. I swear if the league would let him do it that Pop would just run two players out there at the end of the game when we need a bucket - Tim and someone to pass him in the ball.

    We have one of the most creative players in the league, a guy who can get to the bucket at will and is one of our best free throw shooters in Manu. And he's constantly reduced to being the ing inbounds man or stuck on the weakside while we are subjected to watching Tim try and pull something out of his ass at the end of games when the other team knows where the ball is going and gears for it.

    We've lost probably five times as many games at the end with the ball in Duncan's hands as we've won, and yet people still seem bemused when we force it to Duncan and like tonight happens.

    Yet the moment you suggest an alternative you get all the "Duncan is the greatest in the game, he's our best player" thrown back in your face.

    Well BFD. Jordan was the greatest to ever play the game, and I seem to recall him letting a few other guys (BJ Armstrong and Steve Kerr, among others) help him win all his rings.

    So yeah, it pisses me off when homers like yourself act like the moment someone questions the wisdom of forcing it to Duncan for the 38,238th time they are ready to go be a Mavs fan.

    And your original post wasn't made with any sarcasm, all I saw was you running around on 2-3 threads calling out anyone who said anything bad about the team tonight.

    Like I said, the rings are the thing. And if Pop is going to be as ing stubborn in the playoffs as he was tonight, I don't even think we'll make it out of the west. And yeah, that sure as pisses me off.

    Agree

    Besides we need to put as much pressure on the defense as possible by showing different options on the court -- i.e. MANU at the top of the key where he could 1) pull up and shoot or, 2) penetrate and shoot, or 3) penetrate and dish. After all it was MANU who brougt the Spurs back late in the game.

    Pops basically told Seattle where he was going for the win and the refs are not going to bail anyone out as has been proven throughout the late stages of this game.

    Its just frustrating to fight back just to make boneheaded plays to gift-wrap the game for Seattle.

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    Losing games to pansy teams like Seattle isn't going to get us to the best record.



    Seen Detroit play?

    Look, I'll clue you in. You're relatively new here. I care about one thing - rings. Everything else is irrelevant. This team struggles on the road, but is awesome at home.

    I really, truly in my heart believe that the Finals will come down to a game 7 again. And I like our chances a of a lot more at the SBC than at the Palace. This team has shown a propensity to roll over and shrivel into the fetal position in situations like the one we'd face in a game 7 at the Palace.

    And sooner or later you can't count on Rober Horry to bail you out.

    Like I said, the ring is the thing. Everything else is secondary. I guess the most frustrating fact about tonight is I saw Pop's trademark stubborness coming out and it cost us a loss.

    He refused to tweak his defensive game plan even when it wasn't working. They got what they wanted every time we switched the pick and roll, and it showed in their confidence at the offensive end.

    Further, all the switching totally trashed our help defense, and Seattle roamed the offensive glass in the second half. That's not Spurs defense.

    And finally, we have the overreliance on Tim Duncan at the end of games. I swear if the league would let him do it that Pop would just run two players out there at the end of the game when we need a bucket - Tim and someone to pass him in the ball.

    We have one of the most creative players in the league, a guy who can get to the bucket at will and is one of our best free throw shooters in Manu. And he's constantly reduced to being the ing inbounds man or stuck on the weakside while we are subjected to watching Tim try and pull something out of his ass at the end of games when the other team knows where the ball is going and gears for it.

    We've lost probably five times as many games at the end with the ball in Duncan's hands as we've won, and yet people still seem bemused when we force it to Duncan and like tonight happens.

    Yet the moment you suggest an alternative you get all the "Duncan is the greatest in the game, he's our best player" thrown back in your face.

    Well BFD. Jordan was the greatest to ever play the game, and I seem to recall him letting a few other guys (BJ Armstrong and Steve Kerr, among others) help him win all his rings.

    So yeah, it pisses me off when homers like yourself act like the moment someone questions the wisdom of forcing it to Duncan for the 38,238th time they are ready to go be a Mavs fan.

    And your original post wasn't made with any sarcasm, all I saw was you running around on 2-3 threads calling out anyone who said anything bad about the team tonight.

    Like I said, the rings are the thing. And if Pop is going to be as ing stubborn in the playoffs as he was tonight, I don't even think we'll make it out of the west. And yeah, that sure as pisses me off.
    Stfu u think u're a better coach? Try getting our 3 championship rings.. If you cant jus drink some beer and go to sleep after watching the in game.

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    Stfu u think u're a better coach? Try getting our 3 championship rings.
    Fine, shut down the forum then. You don't like discussion? Don't post here rookie.

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    Spurs has been wasting a lot of chances to reach detroit in the top 1. They lost yesterday and it could be a good chance, i think that if pop has a plan, this is the time he says his guys this is the moment for winning matchs

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    You sir, are a moron.

    Allen hit a contested 3 at the end of the game after we made a huge comeback.

    Big ing deal.

    Tim and Manu look great, better than they have togeather all season.

    Count your blessings.

    Quitcher in and grow some balls.

    At least most of the Sky is falling people around here go away for a day or two after a loss because they don't want to think about it.

    You think maybe you could do that?

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    Remember, the most dangerous man, with a chance to win it at the end, is the man throwing the ball in.

    I suspect the play was meant to go to Duncan and back to Manu to take the final shot or drive to the bucket for a foul.

    As for Horry not calling time. I suspect he was thinking with 13 seconds left the guy would foul him. In fact, I would have thought the second the guys hands touched him, the ref would have whistled it. At that moment a foul was what the Sonics needed.

    Sure, to be on the safe side, Robert should have called for time as he was heading OB.

    Yes, we should have won that game. No, we didn't. I don't think it's the end of the world though. It may eventually have cost us HCA in the finals, but even that race isn't totally decided yet.

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    Actually, this team reminded me of the Spurs of years past, with a fiery 4th quarter defensive effort that saw the Sonics cough up a 7 point lead with 2 minutes to go.

    If not for Horry falling out of bounds (he should have tried to stay up or throw the ball down court), then we would have walked away with a victory. Instead, it took a very bad series of breaks for us to lose it - Ray Allen's contested shot, the bad entry pass to Duncan, and the unlucky missed free-throw rebound.

    Seriously, the team did well. We are going to lose games. The playoffs are near. Sit back and relax.

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    Remember, the most dangerous man, with a chance to win it at the end, is the man throwing the ball in.
    that's why i thought horry should have been inbounding to gnob, at least that way they are worried about horry and gnob more and maybe duncan could have slipped to the basket.

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    If Horry would have called a timeout, instead of trying to draw a foul on the force out, and win the game himself at the FT line, we would have won. Stupid rookie mistake by a veteran player.

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