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    Nostradamas Jr.
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    Still want Detroit to lose to Dallas?

    Spurs still a lock for HCA in West?

    As I said last night, a 1 game lead with 15 or so to play is not a lock. Spurs need a little help, afterall, yes?

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    iow, anybody think the Spurs can repeat without HCA vs both Mavs and Pistons?

    Anybody worried about a healthy Spurs going 2-3 or 1-4 on a road trip in the last week of March?

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    Jim,
    I believe Shoogarbear's argument was that Spurs can win without HCA advantage against the Mavs, they've proven they can win @ Dallas...but it may be a little harder to do against the Pistons without HCA (that is if the Spurs make it that far, **knocks wood*)

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    Jim,
    I believe Shoogarbear's argument was that Spurs can win without HCA advantage against the Mavs, they've proven they can win @ Dallas...but it may be a little harder to do against the Pistons without HCA (that is if the Spurs make it that far, **knocks wood*)
    No, he said that the Spurs were a lock to win the West because we were ahead of them and that we were trying to catch Detroit from behind.

    My argument was that we need to win the West first, then worry about the Finals, if we get there at all.

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    No, he said that the Spurs were a lock to win the West because we were ahead of them and that we were trying to catch Detroit from behind.

    My argument was that we need to win the West first, then worry about the Finals, if we get there at all.
    No. Here we go again.

    I said:

    1. WE DON'T NEED HELP to win the West. We can win the West without any other team helping us.

    2. WE DO NEED HELP to win HCA against the Pistons. No matter what we do, we can't catch them unless somebody else beats them.

    Those are just simple mathematical facts.

    Secondarily, just like last year, it is less important for the Spurs to have HCA in the West than it is for the Finals. They should beat Dallas and Phoenix regardless of the HCA. It will probably be crucial against the Pistons, however.

    So having the Pistons lose ALWAYS helps the Spurs much more than having the Mavs lose.

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    I still want Dallas to win against Detroit but all the wanting in the world isn't going to make it happen. The Spurs are going to win HCA against the Mavericks because of the April 7th game and a vastly easier schedule down the road. This game isn't make or break for that.

    HCA in the finals really is overrated, though. That 3 game block in the middle is a killer.

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    I still want Dallas to win against Detroit but all the wanting in the world isn't going to make it happen. The Spurs are going to win HCA against the Mavericks because of the April 7th game and a vastly easier schedule down the road. This game isn't make or break for that.

    HCA in the finals really is overrated, though. That 3 game block in the middle is a killer.
    It didn't help The Lakers did it I think HCA really matters in a game 7.

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    "3 game block in the middle is a killer."

    But going into middle 3 games with 1-1 record I think is the Spurs' only hope to repeat. Split @Auburn Hills, go up 3-2 @ATT, then go back to Auburn Hills needing only 1 of 2.

    Going back to Auburn Hills down 2-3 and needing to win both Games6 & 7 would be a killer, as it was for the Pistons last June.

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    "3 game block in the middle is a killer."

    But going into middle 3 games with 1-1 record I think is the Spurs' only hope to repeat. Split @Auburn Hills, go up 3-2 @ATT, then go back to Auburn Hills needing only 1 of 2.

    Going back to Auburn Hills down 2-3 and needing to win both Games6 & 7 would be a killer, as it was for the Pistons last June.
    Well said.

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    No. Here we go again.

    I said:

    1. WE DON'T NEED HELP to win the West. We can win the West without any other team helping us.

    2. WE DO NEED HELP to win HCA against the Pistons. No matter what we do, we can't catch them unless somebody else beats them.

    Those are just simple mathematical facts.

    Secondarily, just like last year, it is less important for the Spurs to have HCA in the West than it is for the Finals. They should beat Dallas and Phoenix regardless of the HCA. It will probably be crucial against the Pistons, however.

    So having the Pistons lose ALWAYS helps the Spurs much more than having the Mavs lose.

    We are tied with Dallas right now.

    Another slip up like last night and, and Dallas holds their destiny in their own hands.

    Go Detroit!!!

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    No. Here we go again.

    I said:

    1. WE DON'T NEED HELP to win the West. We can win the West without any other team helping us.

    2. WE DO NEED HELP to win HCA against the Pistons. No matter what we do, we can't catch them unless somebody else beats them.

    Those are just simple mathematical facts.

    Secondarily, just like last year, it is less important for the Spurs to have HCA in the West than it is for the Finals. They should beat Dallas and Phoenix regardless of the HCA. It will probably be crucial against the Pistons, however.

    So having the Pistons lose ALWAYS helps the Spurs much more than having the Mavs lose.
    Right...that's what I told Jim you said!

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    Right...that's what I told Jim you said!
    You always take Shoogar's side.


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    You always take Shoogar's side.

    Damn, Jim, you can't have EVERYONE in your harem.

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    iow, anybody think the Spurs can repeat without HCA vs both Mavs and Pistons?

    Anybody worried about a healthy Spurs going 2-3 or 1-4 on a road trip in the last week of March?
    now there's someone who gets it



    also HCA is crucial in the finals if the series goes to a game 6 &7

    i cant see SA winning in auburn hills a game 7 as we saw how tough it was for them to win there last (a robert horry shot away from being 0-3 on the road in the finals)

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    No, he said that the Spurs were a lock to win the West because we were ahead of them and that we were trying to catch Detroit from behind.

    My argument was that we need to win the West first, then worry about the Finals, if we get there at all.
    The game ultimately won't matter.

    Spurs are not catching Detroit (Pistons don't have much of a schedule left - would need to lose 3, with the Spurs going undefeated; Pop WILL NOT push his team to go on a tear like that 'ala 2004).

    Dallas WILL NOT catch the Spurs - Mavs still have away games at Detroit, Cleveland (b2b), SA, Clips, AND Phoenix - and are still hobbled - Spurs have all but got the West locked up.

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    I agree Spurs have almost no chance of catching Detroit, especially if you look at their effort, it's not there. The good thing is Mavs have very little chance of catching the Spurs. So its gonna be Pistons, Spurs, Mavs. Finals are gonna be TOUGH

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    There is always a chance. The Pistons have a tough schedule. The Spurs? Not so tough unless Parker is seriously hurt.

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    If Spurs losr to hot Clippers(5 straight home wins) tonight and Dallas beats Detroit as Shoogar wants, SA will be looking up at Dallas in the stamdings.

    Is that what we want, hmmm?

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    Hey, I just want Adrienne to change her avatar...Go Mavs!

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    If Spurs losr to hot Clippers(5 straight home wins) tonight and Dallas beats Detroit as Shoogar wants, SA will be looking up at Dallas in the stamdings.

    Is that what we want, hmmm?
    Notice that you always have to suppose SOMETHING ELSE first like the Spurs losing before you can attack my position.

    Why don't you have more confidence in the Spurs? Are you really a true Spurs fan? Are you really a true patriotic American?

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    You always take Shoogar's side.



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    Notice that you always have to suppose SOMETHING ELSE first like the Spurs losing before you can attack my position.

    Why don't you have more confidence in the Spurs? Are you really a true Spurs fan? Are you really a true patriotic American?
    Go Patriots!!!

    I love George Mason, why do you question that???

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    Shoog, all I am saying is, give peace a chance...no no no, all I am saying is...Dallas and their MVP Dirk need to be knocked down a notch or two, and then I will feel more confident. As far as confidence, do you remember the last time we played the Clippers? The Spurs got hammered.

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    Why are you worried about the Mavs?

    Who is their coach? And do the words "CIA Pop" register?

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